Rolex Paris Masters 2023, Bercy, France - ATP Masters 1000

[nehmeth]

Never heard about the Russian whores, but you can fill us in on that one. TC commentators said that Boris helped him get over the hump of losing to his biggest rivals. That he helped him gain a champion's mentality. Personally, I'd have to go back to the time line. You're not buying that? No benefit?

Novak had one of his best years in 2011. Becker coached him from 2013-2016. His 2015 year was comparable to 2011, but (imo), he had already gotten the knack for winning against the best.

 

[nehmeth]

Yep lets see if he can win the 2nd set, I am also watching a womens match that is suspended due to rain ( back again on court )

Right now in the third set, Ruby is hitting the diminutive DeMinaur off the court in similar fashion to Novak’s demolition of him in Oz.

 

[Moxie]

Novak had one of his best years in 2011. Becker coached him from 2013-2016. His 2015 year was comparable to 2011, but (imo), he had already gotten the knack for winning against the best.

So why add Becker?

 

[Moxie]

the diminutive DeMinaur

He's 6 feet tall. Just saying.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Hair Dude got it done in 3 good 3rd set 6-1 against Alex
For his reward he gets to play Novak in the SF

 

[Moxie]

Rublev gets it done! I will say this about him: he's a hot-head, but he's at least added some variety to his game, which used to be just hit hard and hit harder. Don't get me wrong...he relies a lot on hitting hard and harder.

 

[Moxie]

This comment may not go over well, but it bothers me when players cross themselves when they win. (Rublev always does.) I have no problem if they want to send up a prayer of thanks to their God. It's just that, for the Catholic and the Orthodox, there is an option that is very demonstrative of a prayer. Not so in other religions. People might send it up, but it's much less obvious. Speaking as a Catholic, we're not required to bless ourselves in order to send up a prayer. Also, we (Christians, see Matthew,) are instructed not to be showy in our faith. My other problem is that they never seem to bless themselves when they lose. Where is the gratitude? Rafa said this a long time ago, and I think it was wise: "I don't know if there is a God, but I'm pretty sure He doesn't care who wins a tennis match." There is no point to this comment, other than my personal annoyance. Just had to get it off my chest.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

The 2023 ATP Finals line up is locked in,
Novak Djokovic
Carlos Alcaraz
Daniil Medvedev
Jannik Sinner
Andrey Rublev
Stefanos Tsitsipas
Alexander Zverev
Holger Rune

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Paris SFs,
Saturday November 4,
Order of play,

Not before 2pm,
S.Tsitsipas (7) vs G.Dimitrov H2H Tsitsipas 6-1

Not before 5pm,
N.Djokovic (1) vs A.Rublev (5) H2H Djokovic 4-1

 

[Moxie]

Paris SFs,
Saturday November 4,
Order of play,

Not before 2pm,
S.Tsitsipas (7) vs G.Dimitrov H2H Tsitsipas 6-1

Not before 5pm,
N.Djokovic (1) vs A.Rublev (5) H2H Djokovic 4-1

Tsistispas v. Dimitrov seems very compelling to me. Both seem to be rather renewed in form and motivation, playing some of their best tennis at the same time. Some will be compelled, as usual, like @mrzz, by the battle of the one-handers. I'll give the slight edge to the Greek for youth, height, and, what ought to be ambition.

I don't give Rublev a snowball's chance v. Novak, even if he is still sick. A bucketful of options + experience + savvy, vs. a one-and-a-half-trick pony. I do expect some histrionics, most likely from the Russian's side of the court. But if it goes 3, on both sides.

 

[Fiero425]

Novak had one of his best years in 2011. Becker coached him from 2013-2016. His 2015 year was comparable to 2011, but (imo), he had already gotten the knack for winning against the best.

If Novak hadn't won Wimbledon in 2014, there was a good chance Becker would be jettisoned! The success Nole had from late 2013 to the Spring of 2014 was accomplished while Becker was laid up in a hospital after a surgical procedure! Lucky for all concerned, Novak had his pigeon in the final when it counted! He tried to give it to Roger! Novak should have won in 4 sets, but it took 5, collapsing in a TB Roger stole! IDK if you can call it a classic when the strangest thing occurs over and over! Djokovic can be serviing for a match, but allow opponent to "redliine" and steal a set in a TB! Lucky for him it's just added mileage unnecessarily burned up on the front end of his career; still won in the end! He's a lot more thoughtful and is closing out matches better!

 

[Moxie]

If Novak hadn't won Wimbledon in 2014, there was a good chance Becker would be jettisoned! The success Nole had from late 2013 to the Spring of 2014 was accomplished while Becker was laid up in a hospital after a surgical procedure! Lucky for all concerned, Novak had his pigeon in the final when it counted! He tried to give it to Roger! Novak should have won in 4 sets, but it took 5, collapsing in a TB Roger stole! IDK if you can call it a classic when the strangest thing occurs over and over!

You seem to have completely forgotten two SFs at the USO that Novak "stole" from Roger, if you're going to put it that way, two years in a row.

Djokovic can be serviing for a match, but allow opponent to "redliine" and steal a set in a TB!

I think what you're alluding to is "losing" a set.

Lucky for him it's just added mileage unnecessarily burned up on the front end of his career; still won in the end! He's a lot more thoughtful and is closing out matches better!

This is hilarious and excellent: good thinking on Novak's part not burning himself out early in his career by beating Roger and Rafa, while saving himself for when their careers were waning, so that he had virtually no rivals, which you yourself pointed out in a post just yesterday, I think. Sure he closes matches out better now...when there's almost nothing but journeymen and juniors to worry about. It's not just luck or timing that he's won 50% of his majors since Roger was 36 and Rafa was 31. Good thing he kept his powder dry way back when he was in his salad days, eh?

 

[nehmeth]

He's 6 feet tall.

And 152 pounds.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Question. Not trying to be controversial but doesn't Novak's antics get old to you good folks. All the chaos he carry on vs the last two challengers ,the trying to encourage the fans to boo him ...these players have been on the tour about 3 years and he has been on the almost 18 years. is all of that necessary when he has practically won everything is still by far is the most consistent player on the tour ..well i assume the answer is No. He is who he is!

 

[the AntiPusher]

Besides encouraging Novak to have dalliances with Russian whores?? Nah.

Russian whores hmmm you have my attention can you please elaborate my good ole friend

 

[mrzz]

Tsistispas v. Dimitrov seems very compelling to me. Both seem to be rather renewed in form and motivation, playing some of their best tennis at the same time. Some will be compelled, as usual, like @mrzz, by the battle of the one-handers. I'll give the slight edge to the Greek for youth, height, and, what ought to be ambition.

I don't give Rublev a snowball's chance v. Novak, even if he is still sick. A bucketful of options + experience + savvy, vs. a one-and-a-half-trick pony. I do expect some histrionics, most likely from the Russian's side of the court. But if it goes 3, on both sides.

Tsitsipas does not deserve to be a one-hander. He is not noble enough.

 

[nehmeth]

Question. Not trying to be controversial but doesn't Novak's antics get old to you good folks. All the chaos he carry on vs the last two challengers ,the trying to encourage the fans to boo him ...these players have been on the tour about 3 years and he has been on the almost 18 years. is all of that necessary when he has practically won everything is still by far is the most consistent player on the tour ..well i assume the answer is No. He is who he is!

Did Ali’s antics get old? If you were a fan, never. If you didn’t like him, they became one more mark against him. For whatever reason the French chose to boo in his match with the Dutchman. When he double faulted they cheered. So he just said, “C’mon, get it all out. Boo some more.”. Then he went on to win the next two games at love for the match against Griekspoor.

He’s one of the greatest players of all time. He’s still able to bring fire when he needs to. There are players I don’t like and I just don’t watch their matches,

 

[the AntiPusher]

Did Ali’s antics get old? If you were a fan, never. If you didn’t like him, they became one more mark against him. For whatever reason the French chose to boo in his match with the Dutchman. When he double faulted they cheered. So he just said, “C’mon, get it all out. Boo some more.”. Then he went on to win the next two games at love for the match against Griekspoor.

He’s one of the greatest players of all time. He’s still able to bring fire when he needs to. There are players I don’t like and I just don’t watch their matches,

Ali and Novak's antics are mutually exclusive.. Come on Rob you know that's not a good comparison but I understand your message. Again Novak is who he is ! It was just an observation

 

[the AntiPusher]

Tsitsipas does not deserve to be a one-hander. He is not noble enough.

Stefano's bh is flawed because he doesn't commit his "Still " head to the stroke. (Meaning he moves his head instead of holding it until the swing is completed ala Stan, Roger's or Richard G.The guy is so talented that he usually gets away with it catches up with him at times at the critical points in a match, IMO

 

[the AntiPusher]

Jim courier just mentioned they have two sessions (day and night session) for the semis! Why ? This so bogus to have the patrons pay for two separate matches