Roland Garros 2018, Paris, France, ATP GRAND SLAM

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...because....

My phone is almost dead and I'm travelling home so last msg I'll be able to post. Zverev I think still has stamina and concentration issues to make it that far in a slam and Thiem is a dumbass and overplayed before RG. He never learns. If he comes in tired it's his own fault. Again.
 

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(Not waiting for the other shoe to drop...) because Djokovic is the other option. I personally hope that we get a Rafa/Novak final.

No Zverev or Thiem would mean easier semi for Nole therefore less energy spend too, just I think it is unlikely none of them would be there.
 

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No Zverev or Thiem would mean easier semi for Nole therefore less energy spend too, just I think it is unlikely none of them would be there.
Yes, but they are in the same quarter, and not in Nole's one. He'll only get one of them. There is a chance that both go out early, but I'd call that slim. He'll more than likely have to go past one of them. I think his best chance is to get though the early bit without playing long matches.
 
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I honestly don't think I've read a single stupider tennis-related narrative this year than "the 10-time champion who only lost twice at the competition has a cake-walk draw."

I agree that he does not need a cake-walk draw to win; he will win anyway. But, that does not negate the fact that he got a cake-walk draw.
 

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Considering how favorite Nadal is, actually an easy draw is a bad thing for him (not that it matters that much). He could get to the final lacking some competition, while whoever comes out on the other side will surely be battle ready.
 

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I finally had a chance to take a slightly better look at the draw, and I disagree with the "cake-walk" draw for Nadal. People are simply looking at the names and not considering the clay factor. Lots of good clay courters on his quarter. But, as I wrote above, I believe this is a good thing for him. In fact, apart from him I hardly see all seeds progressing as they should. I bet this draw will be upside down as early as round three.
 
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After checking those missing in the draw, beside Roger, Chung and Milos who have been mentioned that are not playing, Krajinovic is absent too, he has been missing in action the whole spring.
Same with Rublev, the young Russian was absent for quite sometime.
 
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How Nadal fans can excuse this is joke of a grand slam draw is beyond me and just shows these people don't like tennis, all they're after is dull breaking Fed's slam record. What a bunch of dogmatic chumps! This is about YE#1 too and dull is going to get another undeserved one by just hoarding clay. Pathetic.

The best player is supposed to get the hardest draws specially when he's already vultured 2 or 3 too many and he gets the exact opposite of a tough draw. And this is happening in slam after slam, draw after draw. It just never ends. Tennis is a corrupt sport and the ATP is rigging it for Nadal to keep the slam race alive because they know mowgli doesn't have the talent and tennis skills to do it without external help.
 
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After checking those missing in the draw, beside Roger, Chung and Milos who have been mentioned that are not playing, Krajinovic is absent too, he has been missing in action the whole spring.
Same with Rublev, the young Russian was absent for quite sometime.
And Andy Murray...:-)2
 

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I agree that he does not need a cake-walk draw to win; he will win anyway. But, that does not negate the fact that he got a cake-walk draw.

It's not the statement I have an issue with (ie whether it's factual or not), but A) the complaints (as if the draw ever mattered for him at RG), and much more importantly, B) what would constitute a tough draw for Nadal at RG?
 

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Exactly. Frankly, I doubt there are many Nadal fans worried right now. On the other hand, my confidence in Federer winning Wimbledon is diminished quite a bit and I've a feeling he won't win it this year.

It's about Roger's will. My worry after getting back to #1 is that he'd have a huge drop in play due to motivation and so far it played out with ugly losses in IW and Miami. Seeing Nadal win #17 and re-upping the fight for all-time greatness should get his juices flowing. And you can't get to 10 Wimbledon's without getting #9
 

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Zverev isn't going to be winning Roland Garros. He hasn't got the engine. Thiem can't win two big back to back matches in a row... so basically that leaves Novak Djokovic as the only guy in the draw who could upset Nadal IMO.
 

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How Nadal fans can excuse this is joke of a grand slam draw is beyond me and just shows these people don't like tennis, all they're after is dull breaking Fed's slam record. What a bunch of dogmatic chumps! This is about YE#1 too and dull is going to get another undeserved one by just hoarding clay. Pathetic.

The best player is supposed to get the hardest draws specially when he's already vultured 2 or 3 too many and he gets the exact opposite of a tough draw. And this is happening in slam after slam, draw after draw. It just never ends. Tennis is a corrupt sport and the ATP is rigging it for Nadal to keep the slam race alive because they know mowgli doesn't have the talent and tennis skills to do it without external help.
You are for sure who needs not only external help but also internal help, poor guy or what ever you are :cuckoo: :help: :finger:
 

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How Nadal fans can excuse this is joke of a grand slam draw is beyond me and just shows these people don't like tennis, all they're after is dull breaking Fed's slam record. What a bunch of dogmatic chumps! This is about YE#1 too and dull is going to get another undeserved one by just hoarding clay. Pathetic.

The best player is supposed to get the hardest draws specially when he's already vultured 2 or 3 too many and he gets the exact opposite of a tough draw. And this is happening in slam after slam, draw after draw. It just never ends. Tennis is a corrupt sport and the ATP is rigging it for Nadal to keep the slam race alive because they know mowgli doesn't have the talent and tennis skills to do it without external help.
I think, as Broken has suggested, you don't actually know how the draw works. The best player is not supposed to get the hardest draws. In fact, it is the opposite. One of the privileges of the #1 (and #2) ranking/seeding is to be farthest away from the other, theoretically, toughest player in the draw. By the same token, you can't meet #3/#4 until the SFs, and etc. You meet low ranked players in the early rounds. You can complain, but as I say, this is a perk of top rankings...easier path in the draws. Where this gets messed up is with the "dangerous floater," i.e., a player with an artificially low rank due to absence (usually from injury.) An example of this was Djoker getting JMDP first round at the Olympics in Rio '16, even though he was ranked #1...JMDP was the worst possible first round for anyone, and Novak lost.

As to the rigging, it's important to note A) that the ATP doesn't run the Slams, so you'll have to accuse the ITF, if you want to go there, and B) you're within your rights, I suppose, if you want to believe that the ITF/RG pre-made the draw and then staged an elaborate, televised farce to throw us all off of the scent, but it does seem far-fetched to me.
 
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Aside from the fact that sponsors and advertisers have already paid in advance...can someone remind me why they're playing the French Open? Just give Nadal the dang trophy and let's all move on to grass. :D

Seriously though...if Sascha Zverev can't make it to at least the SF of this FO...then he'll really start questioning if he's ever going to.win a Slam.
 

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Nadal should go buy a lottery ticket while this unnatural luck is smiling upon him.

Better still...he buy ME a lottery ticket. He's got about $200MIL. He doesn't need more money. I, on the other hand, aspire to have $200MIL without actually doing any work for it...
 

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Aside from the fact that sponsors and advertisers have already paid in advance...can someone remind me why they're playing the French Open? Just give Nadal the dang trophy and let's all move on to grass. :D

Seriously though...if Sascha Zverev can't make it to at least the SF of this FO...then he'll really start questioning if he's ever going to.win a Slam.

He'll get his chances over time, but it won't be here. Can you seriously make a reasonable argument for him making the final?
 

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Better still...he buy ME a lottery ticket. He's got about $200MIL. He doesn't need more money. I, on the other hand, aspire to have $200MIL without actually doing any work for it...

:lulz1:
 

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Well, I'm still looking forward to it, but I can see why most here aren't. At the risk of drawing a troll in, it's not a balanced draw. That is a function of the rankings being less reflective of relative levels, due to injuries, and the absence of Roger.

Nadal must be in Paris doing jumpy claps over this draw. He's a shark scenting blood in the water. The only question about this draw is - does he lose a set or will he win 2 straight FO's without losing a set?

PS - I'm hoping if I concede victory before the tournament even starts that somewhere along the line someone will grow some balls and at least make him play a couple of tie-breakers...
 

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He'll get his chances over time, but it won't be here. Can you seriously make a reasonable argument for him making the final?

I didn't say he'd make it to the final at this RG. I said if he can't make it to at least the SF with the draw he has...

And do I ever see him winning RG? No...but I also don't see him ever winning any Slams...and yes, I really said that out loud. If I'm being generous I'd say 2 or 3 Slams....but I'm not feeling generous today. Ask me again IF he wins 1. And yes, I'm taking into account the days of the Big 4 winning everything are over and someone else is going to win Slams. I'm not convinced that someone is Sascha Zverev. Lot's of talented up-and-comers and sooner rather than later they're going to catch up to SZ's weekly consistency.