Roland Garros 2017, Paris, France, ATP GRAND SLAM

[DarthFed]

So you feel that Roger's groin massage was payback in your realms

Maybe Fed looked at it that way, more power to him if he did. I sure as hell was a spiteful bastard on the court if I felt wronged.

 

[Carol]

Maybe Fed looked at it that way, more power to him if he did. I sure as hell was a spiteful bastard on the court if I felt wronged.

Not more spiteful bastard than himself

 

[britbox]

Results from the French Open Men's Singles Round 3 matches on Saturday

3-Stan Wawrinka (Switzerland) beat 28-Fabio Fognini (Italy) 7-6(2) 6-0 6-2
1-Andy Murray (Britain) beat 29-Juan Martin del Potro (Argentina) 7-6(8) 7-5 6-0
Kevin Anderson (South Africa) beat Kyle Edmund (Britain) 6-7(6) 7-6(4) 5-7 6-1 6-4
Fernando Verdasco (Spain) beat 22-Pablo Cuevas (Uruguay) 6-2 6-1 6-3
7-Marin Cilic (Croatia) beat Feliciano Lopez (Spain) 6-1 6-3 6-3

1-Andy Murray (Britain) beat 29-Juan Martin del Potro (Argentina) 7-6(8) 7-5 6-0





3-Stan Wawrinka (Switzerland) beat 28-Fabio Fognini (Italy) 7-6(2) 6-0 6-2

 

[britbox]

Order of Play - Showcourts on Sunday

PHILIPPE-CHATRIER COURT

11:00

• Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) [11] v.Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) [8] - Round 4 (last 16)
• Gael Monfils (FRA) [15] v.Richard Gasquet (FRA) [24] To Finish 6-5 Round 3
• Venus Williams (USA) [10] v.Timea Bacsinszky (SUI) [30] Round 4
• Albert Ramos-Vinolas (ESP) [19] v.Novak Djokovic (SRB) [2] Round 4

SUZANNE-LENGLEN COURT

• Elina Svitolina (UKR) [5] v Magda Linette (POL) (Round 3)
• Roberto Bautista Agut (ESP) [17] v Rafael Nadal (ESP) [4] (Round 4)
• Garbiñe Muguruza (ESP) [4] v Kristina Mladenovic (FRA) [13] (Round 4)
• Dominic Thiem (AUT) [6] v Horacio Zeballos (ARG) (Round 4)

COURT 1

• Hyeon Chung (KOR) v Kei Nishikori (JPN) [8] To Finish 5-7 4-6 7-6(4) 3-0
• Milos Raonic (CAN) [5] v Pablo Carreno Busta (ESP) [20]

COURT 2

• Karen Khachanov (RUS) v John Isner (USA) [21] To Finish 7-6(1)
• Jelena Ostapenko (LAT) v Samantha Stosur (AUS) [23]

COURT 3

• Carina Witthoeft (GER) v Karolina Pliskova (CZE) [2]

 

[Moxie]

Hard not to wonder what version of Novak shows up tomorrow v. Ramos Viñolas. And I don't think the rain delay helps Chung's cause against Nishikori.

 

[the AntiPusher]

4-5 seconds my arse, AP. Or his arse, rather. If it were only 4-5 seconds no one would be making such a big deal out of it.

Front Rafa isn't taking an extra 10 seconds.,it's 4-5 seconds that he is exceeding the time intervals between serves.. don't you feel like a bit of a nag to carry on about this..you aren't saying anything about Djokovic, Murray and others who consistently get penalized too....think about it this was when he gets a soft warning..then a code warning. And etc ..how many times during the match can a player exceed the limits.. not that many..dude let it go..Let Rafa continue in his grand slam quest..give us Rafa fans a break it's been almost 3 years ..darn. Make a Facebook request to Darth and start a Facebook chat for Wimbledon

 

[the AntiPusher]

Hard not to wonder what version of Novak shows up tomorrow v. Ramos Viñolas. And I don't think the rain delay helps Chung's cause against Nishikori.

Agreed..on all counts

 

[Moxie]

Christ, the bulk of this thread is Fedal Wars. I remember when I tried to be above them, then gradually let myself get involved, now I'm just sick of it.

Can't we just all agree that they're both great?

(And Roger's a tad better?)

And the footnote tells the tale. No, we can't, apparently. I've said for years that this argument will live beyond both of their sell-by dates. And it will. The fault lies with Roger and Rafa...if they'd lain in their beds like they were supposed to this year, and it had been a Novak-Murray show, there'd be hardly a peep. But if they're both going to get back into the fray, full-tilt, well, just either get in the fight or stand back. ::sw1::

 

[rafanoy1992]

Even with all the "upsets" happening in the men side, there is a REAL chance that the Top 8 seeds MIGHT reach the quarterfinals.

Also, it looks like Murray is starting to get his Clay legs under his belt. He might not win this title but he continues to play well, then he will be fine going into the grass and US hardcourt season.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Even with all the "upsets" happening in the men side, there is a REAL chance that the Top 8 seeds MIGHT reach the quarterfinals.

Also, it looks like Murray is starting to get his Clay legs under his belt. He might not win this title but he continues to play well, then he will be fine going into the grass and US hardcourt season.

I tell you what no one wants to face Verdasco..he is playing like a beast

 

[Moxie]

Well I will stop hijacking this thread after this but it was more than a small step down. It wasn't as bad as Nole from 2016 to what we have now but Roger's play in 2008 was shockingly bad at times and in big moments. Rafa was obviously better on that day but that shows how flustered and off Roger was. He had no business losing on grass to Nadal ever, a million unforced errors and a damaged mind was to blame.

Since the fedal wars seem to still be on, and since the rain delay made the top half of the draw (which is more boring, anyway) a bust, I'm going to reply to you for one more: It is hard to justify that Roger's 2008 was "shockingly bad." Here is the link to his results that year. As to the Wimbledon final that year, you say that Roger had 'no business' losing on grass to Rafa ever, but you haven't explained 2007, when he nearly did, and he was surely at his peak, then. You're trying to hard to make Roger's 2008 a bust and to justify why he lost to Rafa on grass. You can never just admit that Rafa was better than Roger in 2008, no caveats.

 

[Moxie]

Even with all the "upsets" happening in the men side, there is a REAL chance that the Top 8 seeds MIGHT reach the quarterfinals.

Also, it looks like Murray is starting to get his Clay legs under his belt. He might not win this title but he continues to play well, then he will be fine going into the grass and US hardcourt season.

Maybe so. Nishikori is in a bit of a nick, and I think Thiem will trouble this version of Djokovic, should they meet, but the seeds could yet settle into pattern.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Not more spiteful bastard than himself

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Since the fedal wars seem to still be on, and since the rain delay made the top half of the draw (which is more boring, anyway) a bust, I'm going to reply to you for one more: It is hard to justify that Roger's 2008 was "shockingly bad." Here is the link to his results that year. As to the Wimbledon final that year, you say that Roger had 'no business' losing on grass to Rafa ever, but you haven't explained 2007, when he nearly did, and he was surely at his peak, then. You're trying to hard to make Roger's 2008 a bust and to justify why he lost to Rafa on grass. You can never just admit that Rafa was better than Roger in 2008, no caveats.

"Admit Rafa was better than Roger"

No chance on this Earth will Darth ever make such an admition..

 

[Front242]

Front Rafa isn't taking an extra 10 seconds.,it's 4-5 seconds that he is exceeding the time intervals between serves.. don't you feel like a bit of a nag to carry on about this..you aren't saying anything about Djokovic, Murray and others who consistently get penalized too....think about it this was when he gets a soft warning..then a code warning. And etc ..how many times during the match can a player exceed the limits.. not that many..dude let it go..Let Rafa continue in his grand slam quest..give us Rafa fans a break it's been almost 3 years ..darn. Make a Facebook request to Darth and start a Facebook chat for Wimbledon

Wrong again AP. I already replied to Carol that Del Potro is slow, Djokovic is slow and so are Isner and Raonic. They should all get point violations frequently. I wasn't the one who mentioned it first so can't see why I'm being labeled a nag for merely 100% disagreeing with you that it doesn't affect his opponents when it clearly does.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Wrong again AP. I already replied to Carol that Del Potro is slow, Djokovic is slow and so are Isner and Raonic. They should all get point violations frequently. I wasn't the one who mentioned it first so can't why I'm being labeled a nag for merely 100% disagreeing with you that it doesn't affect his opponents when it clearly does.

Can you tell me one incident when a player says that they lost a match or was defeated by another because they was annoyed because a,player was exceeding time violations

 

[Front242]

Can you tell me one incident when a player says that they lost a match or was defeated by another because they was annoyed because a,player was exceeding time violations

Are you for real? No one is going to say that but it's obvious that if it's annoying the opponent all match they won't play their best due to agitation as it's ruining their focus. It's the umpires who are at fault most though because, while the players who do it are unsporting, the umpires not penalizing them is the main problem 'cos they just keep on doing it knowing they usually won't get any penalty and will rattle their opponents.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Are you for real? No one is going to say that but it's obvious that if it's annoying the opponent all match they won't play their best due to agitation as it's ruining their focus. It's the umpires who are at fault most though because, while the players who do it are unsporting, the umpires not penalizing them is the main problem 'cos they just keep on doing it knowing they usually won't get any penalty and will rattle their opponents.

Name me one player who said that they were not able to play their best due to agitation due to time intervals between serves.
That's why you should admit that I wasn't wrong..it doesn't affect the outcome of a tennis match .

 

[the AntiPusher]

nishokori vs Chung are one game away from 5 set..

 

[Front242]

Name me one player who said that they were not able to play their best due to agitation due to time intervals between serves.
That's why you should admit that I wasn't wrong..it doesn't affect the outcome of a tennis match .

It most certainly does affect the outcome. If someone ruins your focus deliberately and you make more errors, you'll more than likely lose a lot of the time. That's not sporting and it's not good umpiring to allow it happen. These players will keep doing this till they're stopped and currently no one is stopping them bar one or two umpires giving them a measly warning or point violation once in a blue moon. Pretty sure you're all too aware a few key points can win a match so these players using stalling as an unfair advantage most certainly do determine the outcome of a match.

 

[the AntiPusher]

It most certainly does affect the outcome. If someone ruins your focus deliberately and you make more errors, you'll than likely lose a lot of the time. That's not sporting and it's not good umpiring to allow it happen. These players will keep doing this till they're stopped and currently no one is stopping them bar one or two umpires giving them a measly warning or point violation once in a blue moon. Pretty sure you're all too aware a few key points can win a match so these players using stalling as an unfair advantage most certainly do determine the outcome of a match.

Name one player, name one incident that they said they lost ..this is why I said you are being a bit of a nag..

4-5 seconds doesn't matter or determines the outcome of a match