Roger Done?

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Fiero425 said:
Not NOW though; sooner for Rafa, poor thing! I keep telling people he works too hard to beat players you haven't even heard of! I've always believed you only have a finite amount of time and energy in sports and Nadal burned bright to get what he won! Roger's game was more effortless which gave him more time, but it's still catching up to him!

they've been saying that about Nadal since he was 23. The reality is that in the last three and a half years, Fed has played a nearly full schedule in order to win exactly one major and make one other final. In the same period, Nadal has taken a lot more time off, won six and made three other finals.
 

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Clay Death said:
roger and nadal will be around a long time.

It will depend on the injuries they will have to deal with. Roger has been known for a career almost injury free. This year his results have already been affected significantly by his back problems.
As he is aging, the recovery will take longer. And when he will be injury free again, he 'might" rebound, but to what extent? I think his 2012 campaign took too much out of him, an he knew he has to lighten up his schedule.
If he will pile up events on his plate, he might get injured again, let's not forget, 32y ain't 30 or 28. I agree with those posters, there are a few, who mentioned that his 2014 will be potentially his last hurray (I think britbox is one of them among others).
I know how much of a loss would be to the tennis world his retirement, but it will come inexorably.
 

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herios said:
Clay Death said:
roger and nadal will be around a long time.

It will depend on the injuries they will have to deal with. Roger has been known for a career almost injury free. This year his results have already been affected significantly by his back problems.
As he is aging, the recovery will take longer. And when he will be injury free again, he 'might" rebound, but to what extent? I think his 2012 campaign took too much out of him, an he knew he has to lighten up his schedule.
If he will pile up events on his plate, he might get injured again, let's not forget, 32y ain't 30 or 28. I agree with those posters, there are a few, who mentioned that his 2014 will be potentially his last hurray (I think britbox is one of them among others).
I know how much of a loss would be to the tennis world his retirement, but it will come inexorably.

This. I think if Roger has another terrible year in 2014 that will be the end. The "love of the game" talk is directly correlated with winning vs. losing. It's easy to love the game when you are routinely making it deep in the big events, occasionally winning some, and staying top 3 in the world.

Roger does not like losing and is not used to losing to total nobodies at the big events in early rounds. Believe it or not I think 2010-2012 was a large adjustment for Roger compared to the 6 years before it, and it took him awhile to even accept "just" being a top 2-3 player and winning far less with frequent losses in the QF's at slams. Now it's a different chapter, and if it doesn't turn around soon it will put the ultimate test to "the love of the game" theory.
 

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he has a lot of options to stay involved in the sport.

he can be dominant in doubles if he wants to go that route.
 

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DarthFed said:
The "love of the game" talk is directly correlated with winning vs. losing. It's easy to love the game when you are routinely making it deep in the big events, occasionally winning some, and staying top 3 in the world.

Roger does not like losing and is not used to losing to total nobodies at the big events in early rounds. Believe it or not I think 2010-2012 was a large adjustment for Roger compared to the 6 years before it, and it took him awhile to even accept "just" being a top 2-3 player and winning far less with frequent losses in the QF's at slams. Now it's a different chapter, and if it doesn't turn around soon it will put the ultimate test to "the love of the game" theory.

I always say that life, when you really look at it for what it is, isn't all that pretty; that's it's a bunch of emotionally happy people supporting it in times of pleasure.

Same goes here for Roger, as you noted. The whole "love of the game" thing is probably in fact an illusion in his head created by all his winning.
 

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what else can he do when he has spent his whole life playing tennis?


perhaps he has a glimpse of what life will be like without tennis and without all the spotlight.


also he has a very easy and a very efficient game. all he has to do is get healthy.



even after they leave the sport, they all end coming back to it anyway.
 

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Clay Death said:
he has a lot of options to stay involved in the sport.

he can be dominant in doubles if he wants to go that route.

I have a strong feeling that he would not be retiring from
singles and playing in doubles as suggested. When he hangs
up, that will be for good and will include doubles as well.
He has never shown much interest
in doubles anyway; he played and won with Wawrinka,
only because it is Olympics. Otherwise, he would not
have bothered to play.

I also do not see a successful career for him as a coach after
retiring. This is because everything comes to him
so naturally that he would have a hard time teaching/coaching
people how to play.

But, I do see a good career for him as a commentator.
We all know, he handles himself quite well in press
conferences and being a commentator is to some extent
an extension of that.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Clay Death said:
he has a lot of options to stay involved in the sport.

he can be dominant in doubles if he wants to go that route.

I have a strong feeling that he would not be retiring from
singles and playing in doubles as suggested. When he hangs
up, that will be for good and will include doubles as well.
He has never shown much interest
in doubles anyway; he played and won with Wawrinka,
only because it is Olympics. Otherwise, he would not
have bothered to play.

I also do not see a successful career for him as a coach after
retiring. This is because everything comes to him
so naturally that he would have a hard time teaching/coaching
people how to play.

But, I do see a good career for him as a commentator.
We all know, he handles himself quite well in press
conferences and being a commentator is to some extent
an extension of that.


he will soon be worth around $500 million. that also tends to give you a lot of options.

right now he is reeling in around $71 million a year.
 

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Clay Death said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Clay Death said:
he has a lot of options to stay involved in the sport.

he can be dominant in doubles if he wants to go that route.


he will soon be worth around $500 million. that also tends to give you a lot of options.

right now he is reeling in around $71 million a year.

So what are you saying; he's hanging on because of money alone?
 

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I am saying he will have a lot of options because of his fabulous wealth. he can do anything he pleases.

any number of business ventures are available to him.


he could also open a couple of tennis academies and put his name on them. he can hire the best instructors and the best coaches and then just let them do their thing.


I cant see him coaching or sitting next to johnny mac doing tennis commentaries.