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If Nadal wins RG for the 10th time I wonder what will happen to the tennis world.
It just seems too big for reality to accommodate.
Just contemplating the possibility leaves us in unprecedented awe.
Imagine the media hype after each of his matches.....
This is like if Elvis or the Beatles were in their prime today.
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Kieran said:
Fabio Fognini 100/1
Nick Kyrgios 150/1
John Isner 200/1

I'm at a loss as to why they quoted Fabio's odds...

The bigger question is why have they even bothered to put Isner on the list? And with such excellent odds?? Or maybe they missed a zero (1000/1).
 

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auto-pilot said:
If Nadal wins RG for the 10th time I wonder what will happen to the tennis world.
It just seems too big for reality to accommodate.
Just contemplating the possibility leaves us in unprecedented awe.
Imagine the media hype after each of his matches.....
This is like if Elvis or the Beatles were in their prime today.
Rafael%20Nadal%20Main%20Wins%20May.jpg

:laydownlaughing
 

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auto-pilot said:
If Nadal wins RG for the 10th time I wonder what will happen to the tennis world.
It just seems too big for reality to accommodate.
Just contemplating the possibility leaves us in unprecedented awe.
Imagine the media hype after each of his matches.....
This is like if Elvis or the Beatles were in their prime today.
Rafael%20Nadal%20Main%20Wins%20May.jpg

Nothing would happen that didn't happen when he won his 8th or 9th tournament. 10 just sounds like a cooler number. That's it. The number of RG titles he has has been amazing for so long that people have kind of grown numb to it. Obviously, with each one he wins, the achievement is even more impressive but to act like the world would suddenly come to an end just because he's in double digits (as if 9 titles is a cakewalk) is a tad hyperbolic.
 
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^ Humans are suckers for the number 10.
The number 10 absolutely dominates society, and it has a profound psychological impact that we'll see when Nadal wins RG #10.
I know it sounds stupid; but when's the last time you met someone who wasn't stupid?
 

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auto-pilot said:
^ Humans are suckers for the number 10.
The number 10 absolutely dominates society, and it has a profound psychological impact that we'll see when Nadal wins RG #10.
I know it sounds stupid; but when's the last time you met someone who wasn't stupid?

Like I said, the number 10 is cool. They'll hail the accomplishment as they should, because it would be phenomenal, but it's not that much more groundbreaking than winning 9 FO's. Both are insane. One is a little more insane. But we've grown accustomed to Nadal's dominance at RG, which doesn't diminish it by any means, but the shock and awe factor is gone. We take it for granted.
 

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auto-pilot said:
^ Humans are suckers for the number 10.
The number 10 absolutely dominates society, and it has a profound psychological impact that we'll see when Nadal wins RG #10.
I know it sounds stupid; but when's the last time you met someone who wasn't stupid?

What's so cool about the number 10. I could bench press 10KG with my knob. Do I now dominate society? :rolleyes:
 

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auto-pilot said:
^ Humans are suckers for the number 10.
The number 10 absolutely dominates society, and it has a profound psychological impact that we'll see when Nadal wins RG #10.
I know it sounds stupid; but when's the last time you met someone who wasn't stupid?

10 dominates society? I'd say 69 is a more dominant number and that's just getting started
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
I know it is bit early. But, the gambling world does not stop.

Here is an article with early odds for different players to win. This is based on the odds offered by betting houses and not one man's opinion of who will win.

Not much surprise. Nadal is the favorite. Novak is fairly close. All the rest way behind.
Interestingly, Wawrinka has better odds than Fed for winning RG'15. Perhaps, it is fair too.
Last year, he fell early as he is not grounded after his AO high. In reality, clay courts
suit Wawrinka better.

Pulling this up because today I checked the early odds and things got changed somewhat surprisingly.
Nole has now the better odds with Rafa slightly behind. Perhaps the odd makers were not impressed by Rafa's campaign in Latin America.
Another interesting change, not that will matter a lot, but still:
Wawrinka remains the 3rd favorite, but the 4th now is Kei Nishikori with better odds than both Andy and Roger who are almost even in 5-6.
I am sure things will keep on changing as we roll through the spring.
 
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I'm not even convinced that Djokovic will beat Federer at Roland Garros.
Federer is still capable of winning a best-of-5 set match vs Djokovic in my opinion.
Plus these Nadal-Djokvoic RG matches are getting too predictable.
Ok the Nadal-Federer RG matches are predictable too, but its been many years since we last saw it (2011).
 

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I'm not convinced Federer will make the semi of RG, and depending on the draw, I'm not convinced it's good for him to make the semi of RG. 2013 was a year for him to go all out at RG, he had clay nobody Tsonga (as I like to call him) and then Ferret in the semis but obviously he was playing so bad that year he lost badly to Tsonga. In 2014 there was no chance for him to win it but he went into Wimbledon fresh.
 

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My RG odds:

Rafa 50%
Novak 40%
Everyone else 10%
 

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Actually, I have a feeling that Fed is taking this year's RG seriously. It was several years ago
when he played four clay warm up tourneys in preparation for RG. Last year, he just played
two MC and Rome (even though his Madrid absence is due to personal reasons).

May be Fed is smelling an early loss for Rafa and wants to capitalize on it.

The only problem is that Rafa is no longer the sole tormentor of Roger at RG. Any one
of the big hitters who has time to line up their shots can take away Roger at RG. But, with
some decent draw, it could happen. But, the chances of he winning RG without directly
defeating at least one of Rafa or Novak is negligible.
 
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2014 would have been a good time for Federer to focus on RG, as Nadal had a back problem (and QF exits at Monte Carlo and Barcelona).
Nadal is injury-free here in 2015, and looked better at Argentina 2015 than he looked at Rio 2014, and his Rio 2014 form (when Andujar had matchpionts in the semi) was about the same as Rio 2015 or actually the Fognini match was higher quality.
2015 is the most motivated Nadal has been since early 2013, whereas in 2014 I'd say Nadal may have been a bit down-spirited because of the tragic AO experience.
Whereas 2015 AO was encouraging because it showed that even without preparation Nadal was able to make QF of hardcourt slam.
 

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auto-pilot said:
2014 would have been a good time for Federer to focus on RG, as Nadal had a back problem (and QF exits at Monte Carlo and Barcelona).
Nadal is injury-free here in 2015, and looked better at Argentina 2015 than he looked at Rio 2014, and his Rio 2014 form (when Andujar had matchpionts in the semi) was about the same as Rio 2015 or actually the Fognini match was higher quality.
2015 is the most motivated Nadal has been since early 2013, whereas in 2014 I'd say Nadal may have been a bit down-spirited because of the tragic AO experience.
Whereas 2015 AO was encouraging because it showed that even without preparation Nadal was able to make QF of hardcourt slam.

What "tragic" experience? You mean the one where he came out of his MTO shirtless and still got booed? :snicker
 

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With the clay season, half way through it is time to update the odds.

As of today, the odds given by bookmakers are as follows.

Novak ---1 (50%)
Rafa ---- 5/2 (27%)
Kei ------ 20 (5%)
Andy ---- 25 (4%)
Fed ------ 25 (4%)
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
With the clay season, half way through it is time to update the odds.

As of today, the odds given by bookmakers are as follows.

Novak ---1 (50%)
Rafa ---- 5/2 (27%)
Kei ------ 20 (5%)
Andy ---- 25 (4%)
Fed ------ 25 (4%)

We're so spoiled! Who would have thought Fed is not even in the running; needing to play "lights out" just not to be upset in an early round of the FO? I haven't seen his match today in Istanbul, but to allow this kid to take him to the limit in this little warm-up doesn't bode well for his chances in Paris! I still sorta remember "Black Monday" when both Becker and Edberg were upset in the 1st round back in '90! Just as well with Wimbledon pending! I still think Edberg going 5 sets in his previous final against Chang hurt him by the time he got to grass a couple weeks later in '89! :cover :nono
 

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Fiero425 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
With the clay season, half way through it is time to update the odds.

As of today, the odds given by bookmakers are as follows.

Novak ---1 (50%)
Rafa ---- 5/2 (27%)
Kei ------ 20 (5%)
Andy ---- 25 (4%)
Fed ------ 25 (4%)

We're so spoiled! Who would have thought Fed is not even in the running; needing to play "lights out" just not to be upset in an early round of the FO? I haven't seen his match today in Istanbul, but to allow this kid to take him to the limit in this little warm-up doesn't bode well for his chances in Paris! I still sorta remember "Black Monday" when both Becker and Edberg were upset in the 1st round back in '90! Just as well with Wimbledon pending! I still think Edberg going 5 sets in his previous final against Chang hurt him by the time he got to grass a couple weeks later in '89! :cover :nono

That was one depressing month for me. First losing from behind against Chang.. .at the time virtually a nobody. And then Boris just dominated him at SW19 :cry