Pre-Gaming Roland Garros

[Moxie]

Apparently at the end of this week we will know whether Sinner will play or not, his doctors have advised him not to play at RG, fearing that his hip injury could become 'chronic"

Oh, god, I hope that's not true. He's young enough to skip it, and he should, it sounds like. That's disappointing, and a bit worrying.

 

[Moxie]

We could reach the second week with a parade of dark horses. Wouldn't it be fun?

This prediction seems increasingly more likely.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Oh, god, I hope that's not true. He's young enough to skip it, and he should, it sounds like. That's disappointing, and a bit worrying.

You know he was going so well this year as well without any injuries, anyway if he has to withdraw so be it, he has youth on his side, I dont want him to end up with chronic hips,.

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

I really like Ruud (+1000) and Zverev (+1600). Both players have gone deep at RG the last 2 years, with Ruud making the final both years and Zverev making the semifinals. Ruud is one of the most mentally sound players and makes the most of his skillset, while Zverev has shown the ability to overcome adversity with how fast he has recovered from the gruesome injury at 2022 RG. With the field wide open, I think this is could be the perfect opportunity for either player to break through and win that first slam.

 

[kskate2]

You know he was going so well this year as well without any injuries, anyway if he has to withdraw so be it, he has youth on his side, I dont want him to end up with chronic hips,.

He won't lose much if he has to skip RG other than a chance of taking #1 from Djoke. Better to rest up and get ready for the grass where he does have SF points to defend. And probably still a chance to get #1 there too.

 

[don_fabio]

Sinner's hip injury is worrying. My guess is he will not participate in RG and try to heal properly. He is too young for hip issues, hopefully it won't become serious.

As for the odds that @Moxie posted. Yeah, it's a mess. Lot of choices don't make sense and favorites list is all scrambled if you ask me. No one really knows who will be the last man standing, but I said before even Charlie had to rest his arm, he is still a favorite to win in my eyes. As long as his body holds, he has the clay game. If he gets in the zone and peaks for the 2nd week we could see him toying with the competition. And I think he is hungry to get the 3rd slam on a different surface.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Don Fabio,

I have just seen Sinner practicing on clay, via a video, maybe he is just seeing how his hip responds, though practice is not a match, and playing in a GS for 2 weeks, regardless if you have a day off, if there is a problem with your hip, could make it worse. Still no word if he will play or not.
Personally speaking I would rather him withdraw and get his hip fully healed.

 

[rafanoy1992]

Sinner's hip injury is worrying. My guess is he will not participate in RG and try to heal properly. He is too young for hip issues, hopefully it won't become serious.

As for the odds that @Moxie posted. Yeah, it's a mess. Lot of choices don't make sense and favorites list is all scrambled if you ask me. No one really knows who will be the last man standing, but I said before even Charlie had to rest his arm, he is still a favorite to win in my eyes. As long as his body holds, he has the clay game. If he gets in the zone and peaks for the 2nd week we could see him toying with the competition. And I think he is hungry to get the 3rd slam on a different surface.

Counterpoint, a player can’t really know if an injury is fully healed unless he plays an official match.

Regarding about his hip injury and RG, I don’t mind either if he plays RG or withdraws from RG. I trust him and his team to fully know his body/injuries.

I look at this as half glass full: Him playing RG means he trusts his hip to play a couple of matches in BO5. He might not win the tournament (I didn’t think he was winning anyways before the injury). But him playing RG should be good enough in which he can get confidence going into Grass “season.”

I will say this: I do hope he skips Olympics whether or not he plays RG. I don’t like him to go from Clay to Grass back to Clay and to NA HC. That might stress out his hip even more.

 

[Moxie]

Sinner's hip injury is worrying. My guess is he will not participate in RG and try to heal properly. He is too young for hip issues, hopefully it won't become serious.

It is a worry. I'm with Margaret in hoping that he's skip RG this year. Better safe than sorry, and that way he'll have many more chances at it in the future.

As for the odds that @Moxie posted. Yeah, it's a mess. Lot of choices don't make sense and favorites list is all scrambled if you ask me. No one really knows who will be the last man standing, but I said before even Charlie had to rest his arm, he is still a favorite to win in my eyes. As long as his body holds, he has the clay game. If he gets in the zone and peaks for the 2nd week we could see him toying with the competition. And I think he is hungry to get the 3rd slam on a different surface.

I'm glad you thought that looked like a mess, too! Obviously, Zverev will move, up, but it depends on what happens tomorrow. If he wins, he carries real momentum. If he loses, however, it think it could leave a scar on his belief. And he's got to feel like he's underachieving at Majors, because he has been. @PhiEaglesfan712 above says he like Ruud and Zverev, and their odds aren't great, (per that list I posted.) The Zverev +1600 is ridiculous to me, even before the Rome results to date. I think you make a good argument for Alcaraz as the favorite, but even there, I wouldn't say by much. It will be interesting to see Novak in Geneva next week. And, obviously, the RG draw.

 

[Moxie]

Oh, and I forgot to remind people that you can change your picks in the poll. It means little, of course. But I just took Sinner off of my top 3 picks, because, either he withdraws, or, as @rafanoy1992 suggests above, he may want to test the hip, but it doesn't seem like he'll go all the way.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

It is a worry. I'm with Margaret in hoping that he's skip RG this year. Better safe than sorry, and that way he'll have many more chances at it in the future.

I'm glad you thought that looked like a mess, too! Obviously, Zverev will move, up, but it depends on what happens tomorrow. If he wins, he carries real momentum. If he loses, however, it think it could leave a scar on his belief. And he's got to feel like he's underachieving at Majors, because he has been. @PhiEaglesfan712 above says he like Ruud and Zverev, and their odds aren't great, (per that list I posted.) The Zverev +1600 is ridiculous to me, even before the Rome results to date. I think you make a good argument for Alcaraz as the favorite, but even there, I wouldn't say by much. It will be interesting to see Novak in Geneva next week. And, obviously, the RG draw.

Moxie,
If Zed wins Rome, he will go pass Meddy and be ranked No 4 seed for RG and get his own quarter
I am with Don, if Alcaraz is healthy he can play himself into form and has the weapons to win RG
I have seen via a video Alcaraz training with his sleeve still on

 

[Moxie]

Moxie,
If Zed wins Rome, he will go pass Meddy and be ranked No 4 seed for RG and get his own quarter
I am with Don, if Alcaraz is healthy he can play himself into form and has the weapons to win RG
I have seen via a video Alcaraz training with his sleeve still on

I know you mentioned that above, but good reminder. As if Zverev needs more pressure! But that would be as huge for him as another 1000 title, IMO...having his own quarter.

We'll see what happens tomorrow, but I appreciate the interesting conversation on this thread.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I know you mentioned that above, but good reminder. As if Zverev needs more pressure! But that would be as huge for him as another 1000 title, IMO...having his own quarter.

We'll see what happens tomorrow, but I appreciate the interesting conversation on this thread.

Well Zed has the upper hand tomorrow in the final to me, Jarry hasnt won a ATP title above 250, this is his first Masters 1000 final, though seeing Rome has been soo unpredictable this year, we gonna see no? lol!

 

[rafanoy1992]

I am not trying to stir up something here but it is interesting that nobody is worried about Alcaraz forearm injury and potentially playing RG, but everyone seems to worry about Sinner’s hip injury.

By the way, I do think Alcaraz has a way higher chance of doing well than Sinner in RG. It is just the level of concern of the injuries are different

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I am not trying to stir up something here but it is interesting that nobody is worried about Alcaraz forearm injury and potentially playing RG, but everyone seems to worry about Sinner’s hip injury.

By the way, I do think Alcaraz has a way higher chance of doing well than Sinner in RG. It is just the level of concern of the injuries are different

Having a hip injury is way worse than a forearm injury, from my point of view, in hindsight Alcaraz should have not played Madrid, he made it worse.,he should have rested it,
I dont want Sinner to end up having 'chronic hips' to start with he is too young .The MRI showed it was worse than they thought.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Sinner to me is still a progress on clay, even if he does attempt to play, I dont have him as a player that could go far, he has SFs points to defend at Wimbledon, where I feel he has a better chance to play well

 

[rafanoy1992]

I will say this: both Alcaraz and Sinner will not be 100% going to RG. Alcaraz still has his sleeve on when practicing and Sinner will still have to test his hip.

At this point, let’s hope that neither one of them makes their injuries worse playing this tournament even one is considered “worse” than the other.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I will say this: both Alcaraz and Sinner will not be 100% going to RG. Alcaraz still has his sleeve on when practicing and Sinner will still have to test his hip.

At this point, let’s hope that neither one of them makes their injuries worse playing this tournament even one is considered “worse” than the other.

Alcaraz practicing with his sleeve still on, isnt a concern to me, he was striking the ball well what I saw on video, before he was just slicing
Remember Milos Raonic he played with a sleeve full time and it didnt really hinder him or his serve?

 

[rafanoy1992]

Alcaraz practicing with his sleeve still on, isnt a concern to me,
Remember Milos Raonic he played with a sleeve full time and it didnt really hinder him or his serve?

Then why is he wearing a sleeve then?

I don’t think it is a concern either. But at the same time, it is something to monitor at least for the time being.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Then why is he wearing a sleeve then?

I don’t think it is a concern either. But at the same time, it is something to monitor at least for the time being.

Well it is just an extra protection for a strain, as I posted Raonic wore one full time and it didnt affect his serve or play at all