Novak Djokovic's Vaccine Stance & Visa Troubles

[MikeOne]

No winners in Djokovic court loss

The government, Novak Djokovic and Tennis Australia have all lost credibility in the political and legal furore over his entry into Australia.

www.afr.com

LOL, the more we analyze, the more of a hero Djoker becomes.... maybe this is what he needed and the more sinister and evil government looks. Let time and facts be the judge...

Internationally, Australia will be seen as flip-flopping from approving Djokovic’s visa, to cancelling his entry permission, to a court then accepting his presence and now finally the government beingpermitted by the full federal court to send the Serbian tennis star packing.
Inadvertently, the five set legal marathon has shone a light on the unresolved, multi-year detention of asylum seekers held in the same Melbourne hotel as Djokovic.
The Home Affairs umpire should have made a line call weeks ago on Djokovic’s eligibility to be admitted to, or barred from, Australia – before he flew halfway around the world.
If the government – as it belatedly argued in court – was genuinely worried about the 20-time grand slam winner’s “high profile” influence on the vaccine-hesitant, a full pre-approval or rejection of his visa would have avoided the current blaze of publicity engulfing Djokovic in Australia, and the angry protests by his fans.
The decision by Immigration Minister Alex Hawke to use his broad discretion to ban Djokovic was always going to be a hyper-political calculation.

​

Shifting argument​

After the government’s initial embarrassing court loss last week because of procedural unfairness by border force officers at the airport, the government gave up on its previous argument that Djokovic’s purported December infection with COVID-19 was not grounds to enter the country vaccine-free.
Instead, the government in court on Sunday argued the mere presence of the anti-vaxxer “icon” was a threat to public health, by deterring some fans from vaccination and provoking civil unrest on the streets of Australia.
The legal argument contrasts to Health Minister Greg Hunt on Sunday dismissing the influence of other anti-vaxxers such as Clive Palmer and Craig Kelly, who labelled Djokovic a “political prisoner”. Hunt proudly said that 95 per cent of eligible Australians had already received at least one COVID-19 shot.
Despite the world-leading vaccination rates, the government’s lawyer said some of the millions of people still requiring booster shots could be dissuaded by Djokovic’s stance – more so if he won the tournament for a tenth time.

 

[MikeOne]

Yes, a very good article, which covers all bases. Importantly, it says this:

yet you fail to capture the essence of the article, which is - djokovic made errors but none of these errors were valid reasons to cancel his visa and the government, essentially admitted, they were wrong in cancelling his visa in first place, not to mention granting him visa in 1st place without coordinating amongst themselves.

I never disputed Djokovic's actions in serbia, spain were not exemplary actions but that is irrelevant to the glaring inconsistencies, mishaps, flip-flopping and incompetent behavior by government. They ended up deporting him because he is an anti-vaxxer, that's it, even admitting he had a valid exemption and his visa minor errors were nothing really. Yeah, you take that in pal....

but you and others like moxie need to ask yourselves if you supporting this for right reasons... you know it was only to stop novak from getting 21, no shame you feel?

 

[Kieran]

yet you fail to capture the essence of the article, which is - djokovic made errors but none of these errors were valid reasons to cancel his visa and the government, essentially admitted, they were wrong in cancelling his visa in first place, not to mention granting him visa in 1st place without coordinating amongst themselves.

I never disputed Djokovic's actions in serbia, spain were not exemplary actions but that is irrelevant to the glaring inconsistencies, mishaps, flip-flopping and incompetent behavior by government. They ended up deporting him because he is an anti-vaxxer, that's it, even admitting he had a valid exemption and his visa minor errors were nothing really. Yeah, you take that in pal....

but you and others like moxie need to ask yourselves if you supporting this for right reasons... you know it was only to stop novak from getting 21, no shame you feel?

What about yourself, brother? Are you supporting Novak from a cold-blooded neutrality? Or because he’s your favourite?

That BBC article you posted said that they government had to deport him. The article covered all bases, as I said, including the statement that he shouldn’t have been let in, once he admitted to not taking positive covid test seriously…

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Jack Todd: Deported Djokovic got what he deserved

He thought he was bigger than the law, bigger than Australia, so big that his entitlement made it possible for him to bend entire nations to his will.

montrealgazette.com

 

[tented]

Australia confirms Novak Djokovic is banned from the country for three years as Prime Minister takes a brutal swipe at the tennis superstar after his dramatic late-night deportation and his dad labels saga an 'assassination'

 

[Moxie]

Australia confirms Novak Djokovic is banned from the country for three years as Prime Minister takes a brutal swipe at the tennis superstar after his dramatic late-night deportation and his dad labels saga an 'assassination'

That's a line being laid down in the sand. Passions running very high right now. I still think that we'll see what happens in the next 10 months, and tensions soften, and if Djokovic gets vaccinated. But they'll have to walk some of those statements back, so it looks a little tougher than it did for him getting back in before he retires.

 

[MikeOne]

I’m embarassed for some of you who support this just because you don’t want nole to beat your precious rafa and fed slams. He will, he is far superior to both of them today and has been past 10 years. It may even happen at french open, which would be amazing.

you all should be ashamed of yourselves. Here’s a guy who is arguably the GOAt and has shown us all how to work hard and persevere. The australian government granted him an exemption, tried to cancel his visa on invalid grounds (as they have admitted), court sided with djoker then executive order using completely different reasons (that djoker is a threat to public order) cancels visa and judges cave in given how embarrasing it would’ve been for nivak to defeat the government

in many ways, this is great. Novak is now seen as a hero and fighter for freedom against totalitarian regimes. Australia’s incompetence and failed policies unearthed and on the spotlight around the world. He has detractors? The same people who didn’t like him before so no change here but he’s now seen as a fighter for freedoms and oppression. He will get all the records, he’s just a better player than rafa or fed for rest of their careers.

thank you nole for staying strong and fighting evil oppression and totalitarianism! Go french open! Wimbledon! Us open! You will be fresher and more motivated than ever! Screw australian open, you have 9 of them, your goat status will be enhanced by balancing your slams wins more evenly. Go novak! Hero activist and goat!

 

[MikeOne]

A hero:

Thanks, Australia, for turning Novak Djokovic into the world’s richest working-class hero

All that’s left is for Australia to finish the worst example of governmental crisis management in recent memory and kick Djokovic out, completing his transformation from slippery rule-evader to immigration martyr

www.theglobeandmail.com

Freedom fighter:

Novak Djokovic, Freedom Fighter

If he plays, frustrated Aussies will cheer on not just a sporting champion, but a champion of freedom and the rule of law.

www.theamericanconservative.com

Freedom icon:

Supporters celebrate Djokovic as freedom icon

Judge Anthony Kelly, finding the government's decision to revoke the tennis star's visa to enter the country as "unreasonable", ordered Djokovic be freed within 30 minutes and his passport and other personal documents returned to him, rekindling the world number one's bid to win a record 21st...

news.yahoo.com

 

[Moxie]

but you and others like moxie need to ask yourselves if you supporting this for right reasons... you know it was only to stop novak from getting 21, no shame you feel?

I'll say to you what Kieran has: go to the Covid thread on this forum and read our opinions, (and they differ, somewhat,) but neither of us has adopted a convenient position just because suddenly it looked like it would keep Novak out of the AO. There has been a lot of nuance within this argument, something that apparently alludes you. As I said to you before, most everyone on this thread agrees that there is blame to go around on all sides. But Novak is not blameless, either, and he's not a victim here. He made his share of unforced errors over the past months and weeks. You obviously have your opinion, and are sticking to it, but it's not really fair play to question the validity of the opinions of others, if you haven't really read them.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

@MikeOne You should really take a break as this is getting embarrassing for you. If you think that catching Covid and then going out in public and putting people at risk while you’re supposed to be in quarantine is “freedom” then you need help. Djokovic did many things wrong and stop defending him as some hero just because he wanted to bend the rules of a foreign country and become the only special unvaccinated person in the whole freaking tournament. He just cares about himself and nothing else.

 

[Moxie]

A hero:

Thanks, Australia, for turning Novak Djokovic into the world’s richest working-class hero

All that’s left is for Australia to finish the worst example of governmental crisis management in recent memory and kick Djokovic out, completing his transformation from slippery rule-evader to immigration martyr

www.theglobeandmail.com

Freedom fighter:

Novak Djokovic, Freedom Fighter

If he plays, frustrated Aussies will cheer on not just a sporting champion, but a champion of freedom and the rule of law.

www.theamericanconservative.com

Freedom icon:

Supporters celebrate Djokovic as freedom icon

Judge Anthony Kelly, finding the government's decision to revoke the tennis star's visa to enter the country as "unreasonable", ordered Djokovic be freed within 30 minutes and his passport and other personal documents returned to him, rekindling the world number one's bid to win a record 21st...

news.yahoo.com

The one that jumps out here is "World's Richest working-class hero." This is a reverse-engineering of the facts on the ground. Novak crowed in a tweet, rather ill-advisedly, that he had his medical exemption, and was headed for Australia. The general perception from that was that he'd been privileged in. (Which likely, he had been. Craig Tiley was bending federal rules, hoping that a recent Covid would suffice, even though he was told it wouldn't.) This was no working-class hero, this was a guy that circumvented the rules because he was rich, famous, and good for his sport's bottom line.

As to Freedom Fighter or Freedom Icon, surely some will see him that way. But if he'd really stood by his principles of individual choice, as to vaccination, he'd have said he wasn't going. Instead he said, Oh, look, I just got covid, so I can come! Even though most of his colleagues did what was required and got the jab. If he were really committed to his no vaccination stance, he could have sat out, like a few have. Instead, he relied on expensive lawyers, loopholes and, yes, his status. Working class hero my ass.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

The French government is now enforcing vaccine passports, so Novak probably won’t be playing the French Open either unless something changes.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

The French government is now enforcing vaccine passports, so Novak probably won’t be playing the French Open either unless something changes.

Djokovic will announce that after a lot of reflection he has decided to be vaccinated but in reality it’s not true he will just have a fake vaccine passport arranged by the Serbian government.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

Djokovic will announce that after a lot of reflection he has decided to be vaccinated but in reality it’s not true he will just have a fake vaccine passport arranged by the Serbian government.

I don’t think he will go that far. He has been stupid, but I don’t think he is that stupid to pull a stunt like that so close to the heels of his legal issues with Australia.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

I don’t think he will go that far. He has been stupid, but I don’t think he is that stupid to pull a stunt like that so close to the heels of his legal issues with Australia.

Well, the way he has been stubborn about the vaccine IMO either he will skip the FO or if he does get vaccinated then I won't be trusting him that it's legit. I have zero trust in him.

 

[MikeOne]

British journalist Dawn Neesom added: “So Australian Government said allowing Djokovic to play would make him an anti-vax hero. But by deporting him and potentially banning him for 3 years they’ve made him a martyr. What a mess.”

 

[Nadalfan2013]

British journalist Dawn Neesom added: “So Australian Government said allowing Djokovic to play would make him an anti-vax hero. But by deporting him and potentially banning him for 3 years they’ve made him a martyr. What a mess.”

Djokovic isn't looked at as a martyr, he is looked as a fool except probably in Serbia where even if he broke quarantine rules while being positive putting lives in danger they will still applaud him and forgive him. Move on.

 

[MikeOne]

John mcenroe blasting australia..
More and more will come in support of djokovic

1. Australia grants him permission to come into country
2. Australia denies him citing invalid medical exemption
3. Judge sides with djokovic by pointing out australia didn’t cancel visa by following due process
4. Australia then changes tune and admits exemption was valid (invalidating their original cancel decision) but that now djokovic had become a threat to public order. LOL. Has anyone seen any evidence djoker was the leader of anti-vaxxers in all of 2021? A threat to civil order, like some terrorist? Djokovic has never been a leader of anti-vaxxers, australia just made him one, in order to create a villain they can defeat in order to save face due to their failed policies.

The more time goes by, more and more will see djoker as a victim of politics and a hero.. and then he will get the slam record and go down as goat and an activist hero fighting totalitarianism. I think this is all great for djokovic legacy

 

[10isfan]

I think his parents will try to elevate him to sainthood and he eventually goes into politics. Seems crazy? Not any more so than what has transpired this last fortnight.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I think his parents will try to elevate him to sainthood and he eventually goes into politics. Seems crazy? Not any more so than what has transpired this last fortnight.

I really think he could become the next President of Serbia...( I am not joking) when he finishes his tennis career of course