Novak Djokovic's Vaccine Stance & Visa Troubles

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And here with kids and no mask at all.............

 

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And here with kids and no mask at all.............


There's not going to.be a single response to this tweet from the Anti-vaccas or the reluctant vaccas. Novak has a history and doesn't adhere to any thoughts of social distancing being an unvaccinated individual.
 

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There's not going to.be a single response to this tweet from the Anti-vaccas or the reluctant vaccas. Novak has a history and doesn't adhere to any thoughts of social distancing being an unvaccinated individual.
What planet are you living on? Why shouldn’t there be a response from people who believe their immune system is strong enough to withstand the virus? Do you even understand why people chose not to take the vaccine? It’s unrelated to anything in that tweet.

Do you bother to read what other people write, after you sense they disagree with you?
 
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You think someone is advising him? I think not. He is very much like Agassi in "I did it my way". Anyone getting paid the amount of moolah they make are not giving him lousy advice. He is not listening and like a petulant child, probably doing the exact opposite of what the team is saying. :facepalm:
You maybe right on this, sister. I imagine he could be ignoring advice. The comparison with Agassi is instructive, given that he was caught cheating but the officials gave him a pass. Not being banned was very good for Agassi’s career - his tennis reputation largely rests on what came after…
 

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What planet are you living on?

I live on a planet where I will always challenge selfish people who think that they know everything and would jeopardize the health and safety of others because they aren't smart enough to accept reality.

Why shouldn’t there be a response from people who believe their immune system is strong enough to withstand the virus? My point exactly, they believe what they don't know is true but will support some bull crap because it's the Right Wing thing to do.

Question: Did you get the vaccine? If so Why?

Do you even understand why people chose not to take the vaccine? It’s unrelated to anything in that tweet.
You don't know what you are talking about.

Do you bother to read what other people write, after you sense they disagree with you? I don't bother that's what upset you.
What planet are you living on? Why shouldn’t there be a response from people who believe their immune system is strong enough to withstand the virus? Do you even understand why people chose not to take the vaccine? It’s unrelated to anything in that tweet.

Do you bother to read what other people write, after you sense they disagree with you?
 

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Contained within this muddled, incoherent reply (so poorly thought out and formatted that it can’t even be quoted by the machine) is the roots of your problem - you think politically, and in the worst, most modern way of doing it. You think tribally. If you disagree with somebody, then they must be “right wing.” And when your beloved monsters of the left do horrible things, and say terrible things, you believe it’s “sacrilege” to call it. You don’t think for yourself, brother. That must be very comforting. You wake up in the morning and all your thinking is done for you by others…
 

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Contained within this muddled, incoherent reply (so poorly thought out and formatted that it can’t even be quoted by the machine) is the roots of your problem - you think politically, and in the worst, most modern way of doing it. You think tribally. If you disagree with somebody, then they must be “right wing.” And when your beloved monsters of the left do horrible things, and say terrible things, you believe it’s “sacrilege” to call it. You don’t think for yourself, brother. That must be very comforting. You wake up in the morning and all your thinking is done for you by others…
That's what you do..I get straight to the point but you write satires. Blah blah blah blah..
Answer the question since you are so Smart and everything you post is in your mind so thought provoking that it should win some type literature recognition. Did you get the vaccine vaccination shot and if so why? Explain ! Don't hide behind Right Wing"monsters " accusations or the Left feel all who oppose feel the world is evil..That's deflection. Answer the darn question. You Always stick your nose into everything and try to have the last word. Here's your opportunity to be a hero in your mind. Did you get the vaccine vaccination shot? If so why because it spits in the face of everything you have written. Is this written well enough for you, Bro?
 

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That's what you do..I get straight to the point but you write satires. Blah blah blah blah..
Answer the question since you are so Smart and everything you post is in your mind so thought provoking that it should win some type literature recognition. Did you get the vaccine vaccination shot and if so why? Explain ! Don't hide behind Right Wing"monsters " accusations or the Left feel all who oppose feel the world is evil..That's deflection. Answer the darn question. You Always stick your nose into everything and try to have the last word. Here's your opportunity to be a hero in your mind. Did you get the vaccine vaccination shot? If so why because it spits in the face of everything you have written. Is this written well enough for you, Bro?
I’ve written here before about my vaccine status, and why. Have you forgotten? And if you haven’t forgotten, did you understand what I wrote?

Now as for wanting to have the last word, generally this means, “Kieran asked AP for some proofs, and AP scarpered to hide.”

Like yesterday when you were asked to give some proof that back up your view that this is the “most delicate pandemic EVER”, which typically for you, flies in the face of both logic and science…
 

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A reminder that

1. Novak Djokovic believes in a lot of pseudosciences and complete nonsense when it comes to medicine
2. Novak Djokovic has been completely irresponsible when it comes to dealing with the pandemic

I know there is a lot of doubt on whether the test is true or not. But given his past history with the pandemic, I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he acted irresponsibly like his past behaviors. I mean that is exactly how people in large parts of the world are acting anyway. He is a normal human being and should be treated exactly how others are( I mean the people for example in Florida who believe god will protect them and do stuff against protocol, no one acts like they faked a test. All people believe they acted irresponsibly)

Again that has no bearing on his case tomorrow
 
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Also in the government's paper, they mention that they have complete control over who they allow to enter the country and even if he wins the appeal, they are going to cancel his visa again

I am sorry but that is completely totalitarian and is wrong. If he wins the case, you cannot just ban him again

I am sorry but Australia does not deserve to host the Australian Open or any international event if they do this. It is a grand slam of the asia pacific, so this might give the ITF a reason to move the event to Asia
 
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I disagree there. Djokovic is wreckless and clearly his actions show he doesn’t care in the midst of a pandemic. I certainly would side with the government and say I don’t want someone who shows absolutely no concern and does as he pleases during a pandemic in my country.
 

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I disagree there. Djokovic is wreckless and clearly his actions show he doesn’t care in the midst of a pandemic. I certainly would side with the government and say I don’t want someone who shows absolutely no concern and does as he pleases during a pandemic in my country.
I am sorry but that is what we call a dictatorship here

And no dictator country should host an international event as history has shown us
 

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Also in the government's paper, they mention that they have complete control over who they allow to enter the country and even if he wins the appeal, they are going to cancel his visa again

I am sorry but that is completely totalitarian and is wrong. If he wins the case, you cannot just ban him again

I am sorry but Australia does not deserve to host the Australian Open or any international event if they do this. It is a grand slam of the asia pacific, so this might give the ITF a reason to move the event to Asia
beside what I think about the person Djokovic I just partly share your opinion but would like to add:
I really can’t understand how a government of a country like Australia , does not equate vaccinated and recovered people, taking into account the current knowledge of science.
Especially with regard to the new Omikron variant.
natural immunization is superior to vaccination.
in my understanding they should be treated at least equal
 

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i read this whole mess could drag on for weeks or months and in the meanwhile he can stay and play due to disproportionate disadvantages for him
i know it sounds crazy
I don't think it will drag on. The judge will render his decision after hearing the arguments and even then, ABP could still deny him entry. All in all, it doesn't look good for him to play there this year.
 
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beside what I think about the person Djokovic I just partly share your opinion but would like to add:
I really can’t understand how a government of a country like Australia , does not equate vaccinated and recovered people, taking into account the current knowledge of science.
Especially with regard to the new Omikron variant.
natural immunization is superior to vaccination.
in my understanding they should be treated at least equal
It’s hard to know why, with this. Travel in Europe allows a recovery cert, and it makes no sense to ignore the fact that a recovery from covid means the person is inoculated to at least the same extent as the vaccine. Australia seems determined to make itself an unenticing place to visit, at the moment…
 
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I am sorry but that is what we call a dictatorship here

And no dictator country should host an international event as history has shown us
All countries control their borders and allow who they want, that does not make them a dictatorship. IMO, there needs to be more control here in the US. How do you think 9-11 happened? If a country has been in multiple lockdowns (like AUS), one can understand how stringent they might be with who they allow entry to especially during a public health crisis. Again, none of this is news to tennis players. They all knew how strict Aus was going to be. You have a choice to suck it up and deal with it or sit this one out.
 
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WtF is wrong with journalists. I know they normally post shit but are you telling me that they are not even fact-checking before posting that shit