Nitto ATP Finals 2023, Turin, Italy

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Whoever wins this multi deuce game is gonna run away with the set anyway. And it's Rune. And he'll break here 100%
 

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Whoever wins this multi deuce game is gonna run away with the set anyway.
Sinner is having back problems, he felt his back towards the end of the 2nd set, agree this could be the decider to the match
 

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Rafa had no business loosing to Frances at the USO. No business at all
Exactly. Rafa wasn’t fit then. He hasn’t been fit since the start of Wimbledon 2022. He’d normally have chewed the Big T’oe handily, but even if he wouldn’t have so easy, T’oe in that tournament had a blind streak that he hasn’t been remotely close to repeating, yet we were told he’d win a slam by the end of this year.

Same is happening with Ben. You know yourself, we can’t make predictions based on a flash in the pan…
 
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Exactly. Rafa wasn’t fit then. He hasn’t been fit since the start of Wimbledon 2022. He’d normally have chewed the Big T’oe handily, but even if he wouldn’t have so easy, T’oe in that tournament had a blind streak that he hasn’t been remotely close to repeating, yet we were told he’d win a slam by the end of this year.

Same is happening with Ben. You know yourself, we can’t make predictions based on a flash in the pan…
Do you honestly thin Rafa should play at the USO, as he wasnt fit
 
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Sinner is having back problems, he felt his back towards the end of the 2nd set, agree this could be the decider to the match
Didn't realize that. He's prone to that unfortunately. Well, genuinely didn't expect him to hold there but still don't think he'll win. Another reason to tank in the hope he recovers for his next match which won't be Djokovic.
 
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I like Ben Shelton he is one of my 'rising starts' after his QF appearance at the AO this year
Ben is still learning, he is very green in areas of the game, great lefty serve and fhand good at the net
I would like to see Ben with another coach than his dad, to work out some of the issues in his game, eg, his return game
 
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Do you honestly thin Rafa should play at the USO, as he wasnt fit
Part of me wished he’d retired after withdrawing from Wimbledon. As close to the Borg/Sampras exit as possible. But he was a serious contender at Wimbledon last year. He was playing exceptional all season. After Wimbledon, he knew he wasn’t himself. But if he hit a streak at the USO he also knew he could win that.

Problem for Rafa is, he rarely played himself into form at a slam. Generally he worked hard to get the W and didn’t have a huge serve to rely on to get him cheap games.

I think he’d have retired if he won the USO so he played to see if he could…
 
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Didn't realize that. He's prone to that unfortunately. Well, genuinely didn't expect him to hold there but still don't think he'll win. Another reason to tank in the hope he recovers for his next match which won't be Djokovic.
Sinner has a day off tomorrow, he has been good of recent months injury wise. lets see how this match pans out
 
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Sinner has a day off tomorrow, he has been good of recent months injury wise. lets see how this match pans out
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Those orange wests are really ugly and annoying. Almost worse than flash on the mobilephones...
 

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Jannik you need to find your 1st serve, your 2nd serve is getting returned with ease at present, winning point off it
 

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Come on Jannik you have 3BPs with good returning lets take this now Forza!