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You're really bothered by the fact that #1 I don't believe in that GOAT BS, and #2 that I don't think Federer is the GOAT. I don't see how that qualifies me as being a hypocrite. I thought I made myself clear in my posts, if you can't handle it that's your problem, because for all of your tedious and ridiculous posts to me not a dang thang has changed. My opinion remains the same and there's nothing you can do about it. So I suggest you just move on and stop with the silly internet grudges.

that little brain of yours is assuming a lot of things, worthless. Never had problem with when people nominated others for GOAT like Laver, so clearly you are trying to stuff the issue with more bs. yep you are a hypocrite and you are exposed.....nothing you can do about it.
 

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that little brain of yours is assuming a lot of things, worthless. Never had problem with when people nominated others for GOAT like Laver, so clearly you are trying to stuff the issue with more bs. yep you are a hypocrite and you are exposed.....nothing you can do about it.

Barriers to a decent conversation? People who don't stick to the issues, don't explain their version of being a hypocrite and stoop to name calling. You're being childish more than anything. P.S. I don't feel exposed by you, just embarrassed for you. I don't give a rat's arse (I got that from you) about your opinion, like you do mine. I would bid you a good night but I have a feeling you're going to continue to keep being angry to no avail. Everyone has moved on but you. You're still throwing a tantrum...all because I don't think Federer or anyone is a GOAT. Sad.
 

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I would never, ever, with any degree of certitude, claim that "Nadal wasn't winning RG."

He came in as a clear second favorite. Granted, I think Novak would have been favored had they played, but it would hardly be a foregone conclusion.

Wimbledon on the other hand, he had no shot in hell at winning.
 

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Barriers to a decent conversation? People who don't stick to the issues, don't explain their version of being a hypocrite and stoop to name calling. You're being childish more than anything. P.S. I don't feel exposed by you, just embarrassed for you. I don't give a rat's arse (I got that from you) about your opinion, like you do mine. I would bid you a good night but I have a feeling you're going to continue to keep being angry to no avail. Everyone has moved on but you. You're still throwing a tantrum...all because I don't think Federer or anyone is a GOAT. Sad.

oh no i wasn't angry by describing exactly what you are, it's just matter of fact.

or you can't face realities?

never mind.
 

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It's funny to see how some Roger's fans are enjoying looking to Rafa not playing so well and most of the times because his injuries. But like it's well said and we have seen it already "what goes around comes around".
Rafa was playing close to his best before to get the wrist injury so it means that without that injury he would have won his 10 GS for sure, it doesn't matter if he would have had to go through Djokovic, the guru and all his coaches

Rafa's wrist supposedly was acting up on and off for all of 2016 but that didn't stop him from having a mini-resurgence during clay season. The problem is that it was just that, a mini-resurgence. He played probably one of his better matches of 2016 in the Rome QF vs. Nole and still lost in straight sets. He has lost 7 straight matches all in straight sets vs. Nole so to think that Rafa would have "probably" won RG if he didn't have to withdraw is laughable even for you.
 

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I would never, ever, with any degree of certitude, claim that "Nadal wasn't winning RG."

He came in as a clear second favorite. Granted, I think Novak would have been favored had they played, but it would hardly be a foregone conclusion.

Wimbledon on the other hand, he had no shot in hell at winning.

Oh I agree and it's not like Rafa would have had no chance vs. Novak but I'd say the latter would have been a heavy favorite if that semi took place. Losing 15 straight sets including the Rome match 2 weeks before RG where Nadal was swinging from the hip for much of it shows that.
 

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Rafa's wrist supposedly was acting up on and off for all of 2016 but that didn't stop him from having a mini-resurgence during clay season. The problem is that it was just that, a mini-resurgence. He played probably one of his better matches of 2016 in the Rome QF vs. Nole and still lost in straight sets. He has lost 7 straight matches all in straight sets vs. Nole so to think that Rafa would have "probably" won RG if he didn't have to withdraw is laughable even for you.

Rafa was recovering of all his issues (most mentally downs) he was playing well, almost close to his best and THA'S why he was having a "mini-resurgence' and even THAT he won Montecarlo but unfortunately he started to feel the wrist pain in Madrid and Roma which obviously didn't help him to have the 'big-resurgence', otherwise he would arrived to RG in the best conditions been able to win his 10 title
 
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Acting like Rafa would have surely won RG without the wrist injury is delusional my dear. He has been a punching bag for Nole for 2.5 years and he is vulnerable to upset these days against a lot of players even on clay. He would've been a heavy underdog in the semifinal, no doubt about it.
 

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And acting like Rafa wouldn't have won RG even playing well and without the wrist injury just because he has had 2.5 bad years because his injuries and therefore lack of consistence/confidence is even more delusional my darling but I understand you....no more numbers for him, isn't? he will
 
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^ He hasn't been injured for 2.5 years. He was healthy most of 2014, all of 2015, and most of 2016. He is run down and past his prime, there is a difference.
 

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He wasn't healthy in 2014, he suffered a back injury in the AO final and after that he went throug a roller coaster and when he was getting better he got an appendicitis surgery, REMEMBER?. Of course after so bad luck he lost a lot of confidence playing pretty bad and losing against anyone . Every single players goes through ups and downs, it's part of the sport, ask Novak how he is feeling now and I don't know if it's because personal or body issues, it's not easy to be on the top of the zenith forever but it doesn't mean they can't come back (difficult at 35)
 
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^ I said most of 2014. The back injury was unfortunate but he didn't miss any time until the summer hardcourt season that year for a wrist injury (I think). And the appendicitis surgery was pretty much the last week of the season (he missed YEC which again he would've had no prayer in) and had no bearing on 2015.
 

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MOST of 2014 Nadal had injuries (back and later the wrist) plus an appendix surgery, it doesn't matter it was at the end of the year, he already was playing with discomfort before the surgery. After all those issues Rafa wasn't the same player, it affected his confidence very badly and 2015 was probably the worst year of his whole career. In 2016 we could see him playing better, not his best but little by little he was getting closer and closer until his wrist injury came back, not the same one like before but similar.
You should get better information before to talk.
 
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Rafa announces that he will play in Abu Dhabi in December 30 with Muzz, Raonic, Goffin Berdych and Tsonga

Meanwhile he is enjoying with his girlfriend

 
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oh no i wasn't angry by describing exactly what you are, it's just matter of fact.

or you can't face realities?

never mind.
oh no i wasn't angry by describing exactly what you are, it's just matter of fact.

or you can't face realities?

never mind.

You're still angry because you're still posting to me and calling me names. That doesn't sound like a well-adjusted individual to me. How old are you? Please be a minor, LOL.
 

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Rafa announces that he will play in Abu Dhabi in December 30 with Muzz, Raonic, Goffin Berdych and Tsonga

Meanwhile he is enjoying with his girlfriend



Good for him! He looks happy.
 
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MOST of 2014 Nadal had injuries (back and later the wrist) plus an appendix surgery, it doesn't matter it was at the end of the year, he already was playing with discomfort before the surgery. After all those issues Rafa wasn't the same player, it affected his confidence very badly and 2015 was probably the worst year of his whole career. In 2016 we could see him playing better, not his best but little by little he was getting closer and closer until his wrist injury came back, not the same one like before but similar.
You should get better information before to talk.

Don't get fresh when you're the one who doesn't know what "most" means, not that I'm surprised. The only slam he missed in 2014 was the USO and it was his worst year since 2004 even before that. And 2015 and 2016 have just been more steps down as is expected with age. The injury at the end of 2014 didn't affect his confidence, playing like a scrub throughout a healthy 2015 season has affected his confidence. You are the one that needs better information #nastywoman :)
 

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Don't get fresh when you're the one who doesn't know what "most" means, not that I'm surprised. The only slam he missed in 2014 was the USO and it was his worst year since 2004 even before that. And 2015 and 2016 have just been more steps down as is expected with age. The injury at the end of 2014 didn't affect his confidence, playing like a scrub throughout a healthy 2015 season has affected his confidence. You are the one that needs better information #nastywoman :)

I see how much you know #nastyman :wacko:. I've never said that he missed the others GS, try to read better. You can think whatever you want, you are not going to change anything , take a pill and rest