Nadal owning Federer in the 2008 Roland Garros final.....

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Yea everyone's been say that for ,10 years and nadal still here, so well see I think Nadal well retiring then he wants to. Not because of injury

It may have escaped your notice...but 10 years ago Nadal was 21. He's now 31 with that much more mileage on his body. The body doesn't recover as fast at 31 as it does at 21 and with as many repetitive injuries as he's had - especially his chronic knee issues, the next one could be a career ender. HE is aware of the window closing on his career, because he's spoken about it, even if you are in denial.
 

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Yea right I seen Nadal do everyone of those shots at least once keep dreaming.

You're the one who's dreaming. But...thanks for the laugh. Show me video of Nadal hitting crazy no look drop shots, tweeners that go for winners, deft drop shots while back peddling, squash shots out of the blue, etc. ,etc. etc. If Nadal has that kind of variety and inventiveness in his game, then he's been hiding really well the last 14 years. Listen, I'm not saying Nadal hasn't hit some crazy shots in his career - just not as many different kinds of crazy shots.
 

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Well I would say nadal a better volleyer than Federer, if watch the USO last year final vs. K.Anderson Nadal was 16/16 at the net. Also, Nadal has a better backhand, his shots just a little better than Federer on hard courts and clay. Also Nadal was a better hard court player in these seasons 2009,2010,2011 2012 2013,2014,2017.

OMFG. You're really cracking me up now. Nadal was a better hard court player than Roger in every one of those 7 years? Including 2017 when he lost to Roger 4 times on hard courts? :lulz2::lol6::laugh::lulz1:Good gravy...I just can't even... Thanks for another knee slapper though.
 

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He was better on HC than Fed last year??? Do you type this clownish stuff and hope no one will correct you?
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You've got to admit - Nadal goat 2 is a riot. I'll give him credit for always being able to make me LOL when I read his outlandish comments. That's sort of the only reason I'm replying to his comments - just to see what other OTT claims he comes up with.
 

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Why is the YEC not considered an MS event? All along I thought it was part of the Master series.

It's that and more. It's the crowning tournament of the ATP as opposed to the slams which are ITF(?). That's why it has higher ranking points than a Masters series. Quite apart from the fact that the depth is crazy there
 
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OMFG. You're really cracking me up now. Nadal was a better hard court player than Roger in every one of those 7 years? Including 2017 when he lost to Roger 4 times on hard courts? :lulz2::lol6::laugh::lulz1:Good gravy...I just can't even... Thanks for another knee slapper though.
OK so if read my one of my last posts will Me showing the stats that nadal had a better hard court seasons in most of the seasons I said. 4 HC slams to 3 since 09. Also nadal was sick in Shanghai, India wells he was nerveless, Miami his C.Moya change nadal game which is why he lost the match.
 

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You're the one who's dreaming. But...thanks for the laugh. Show me video of Nadal hitting crazy no look drop shots, tweeners that go for winners, deft drop shots while back peddling, squash shots out of the blue, etc. ,etc. etc. If Nadal has that kind of variety and inventiveness in his game, then he's been hiding really well the last 14 years. Listen, I'm not saying Nadal hasn't hit some crazy shots in his career - just not as many different kinds of crazy shots.
I have seen Nadal do tweeners winners in practice A0, as well no look drop shot's, deft drop shot's, and a tweeners winner with his eyes closed one hand tried behind, his back.
 

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It's that and more. It's the crowning tournament of the ATP as opposed to the slams which are ITF(?). That's why it has higher ranking points than a Masters series. Quite apart from the fact that the depth is crazy there
I agree. Surprisingly, when pundits are counting non slam titles, Masters titles are mentioned more often than YEC titles, giving the false impression that Masters titles are more significant.
 

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Well its harder to win a masters title because you to win all your matches, at Wtf you can lose a match and still win the title. That's why masters are better
 

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Well its harder to win a masters title because you to win all your matches, at Wtf you can lose a match and still win the title. That's why masters are better
If its harder to win a Masters title, then Nadal should have won a bunch of YEC's no?
 
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OK so if read my one of my last posts will Me showing the stats that nadal had a better hard court seasons in most of the seasons I said. 4 HC slams to 3 since 09. Also nadal was sick in Shanghai, India wells he was nerveless, Miami his C.Moya change nadal game which is why he lost the match.

ROTFLMAO. Let me see...you discounted Roger being sick the entire first half of 2008 with mono as part of the reason why he got rolled by Nadal in the 2008 FO final...BUT...now you're telling me that Nadal was sick in Shanghai, "nerveless" in IW (which means the opposite of what I think you think it means), and Moya was fiddling with Nadal's game in Miami are all perfectly fine excuses for why Roger beat Nadal like drum in 6 straight sets and only faced 5 break points in 3 matches (and 4 of those were in 1 game in the Miami final) but broke Nadal 9 times? Alrighty then. Once again - thanks for the laughs...

PS - Save yourself the copying and pasting on Nadal's hard court stats. I think I'm done your nonsense now. Thanks for the offer though!
 

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I have seen Nadal do tweeners winners in practice A0, as well no look drop shot's, deft drop shot's, and a tweeners winner with his eyes closed one hand tried behind, his back.

Please stop now because you're embarrassing yourself. Practice is NOT a match. Roger developed the SABR in practice just goofing around. But HE actually uses it in his matches....much to Boris Becker's chagrin.
 

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If its harder to win a Masters title, then Nadal should have won a bunch of YEC's no?

Well, he'd totally have 10 YEC to go with his 10 FOs if the ATP would just move the stupid event to clay so he can win it! I mean really...it's so unfair that the YEC is always indoor hard court and not indoor clay...even though the clay season is 5 months long (and 22 tournaments) and there are only 6 weeks of grass court season (8 tournaments with most played simultaneously) but you don't hear Federer whining about why the YEC isn't played on grass...
 

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If its harder to win a Masters title, then Nadal should have won a bunch of YEC's no?
If they just be fair to all players and change it to clay, Nadal would have 10 WTF titles. Also should have more, Slams on clay, would be better for everyone
 

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If they just be fair to all players and change it to clay, Nadal would have 10 WTF titles. Also should have more, Slams on clay, would be better for everyone

Haha, "please change the tour around so my favorite player can do better". Life is so unfair if the whole tour isn't boring clay. Here's another thought, if they sped the courts up again like they used to there would be much quicker points and shorter matches. I wonder if Ralphie would approve of that??
 

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Well its harder to win a masters title because you to win all your matches, at Wtf you can lose a match and still win the title. That's why masters are better

Actually I'd say it's harder to beat at least 4 top 8 players in a week than it is to win 5 vs much weaker competition. Besides, Roger had many YEC's where he didn't drop a match. Nadal just sucks indoors that's why there is the annual crying from him, his team, and his fans.
 

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Actually I'd say it's harder to beat at least 4 top 8 players in a week than it is to win 5 vs much weaker competition. Besides, Roger had many YEC's where he didn't drop a match. Nadal just sucks indoors that's why there is the annual crying from him, his team, and his fans.
Nadal won Madrid masters indoors hard courts 2005, also Shanghai final last year. So he is really good player indoors.
 

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Nadal won Madrid masters indoors hard courts 2005, also Shanghai final last year. So he is really good player indoors.

Yes so he has won the same amount of MS indoors as Sock and Ferrer and has one less YEC title than Dimitrov and Davydenko :)
 

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I wish Fed had lost to Monfils, atleast that would've kept his mental state for Wim 08. This match cost Fed not only RG but also Wim and perhaps set off a chain reaction where Fed simply lost the belief to beat Wafa.
 

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