Monte Carlo Rolex Masters 2017, Monaco, ATP Masters 1000

[GameSetAndMath]

OK, Berdych then. I'm not convinced Berdych would be a tougher QF opponent than Dimitrov. Grigor is more unpredictable, so he could play shockingly, but he also could play extremley well. Berdych hasn't taken a set of Nadal on clay since 2005 ...

Berdych has won 4 matches against Rafa and Grigor just one. Even if you take percentages, Berdych has won 17% of his matches against Rafa compared to 11% by Grigor. Berdych being a Mr. Qf guy, is more likely to be there.

But he has won none on clay, and isn't the late he was.

To say that Grigor is far easier as an opponent than Berdych seems to be a stretch to me.



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Further, Berdych will be playing against Andy and their H2H is 6-11. Moreover Berdych has won three clay matches against Andy, one as recent as 2013. On the other hand Grigor has won only one match against Rafa and that too at the fag end of 2016 when Rafa was about to call it an year.

I do agree that Berdych is on a downward trajectory and Grigor seems to be up. However, Grigor is also back on a downward trajectory after his antics at the AO. So, it is not like he is consistently moving up. As recent as an year or two back, Grigor had a consecutive string of first round losses in about 7 to 9 tourneys.

Not to be construed as I like Berdych than Grigor. I actually like Grigor better than Birdman.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Four of the top 12 missing this tourney: RF, Milos, Kei and Nick. Also, 10 of top 25 missing. While the first number is not unusual, the second number seems unusual to me. Usually, the second tier players don't want to miss this one due to large number of points even though it is non-mandatory.

Nick is not top 12

OK. It's Monfils. But, don't you think it is unusal that 12 of top 25 players are missing MC. That is about half of them.

 

[herios]

Four of the top 12 missing this tourney: RF, Milos, Kei and Nick. Also, 10 of top 25 missing. While the first number is not unusual, the second number seems unusual to me. Usually, the second tier players don't want to miss this one due to large number of points even though it is non-mandatory.

Nick is not top 12

OK. It's Monfils. But, don't you think it is unusal that 12 of top 25 players are missing MC. That is about half of them.

The attendance in Monte Carlo has always been spotty. I think it is because some of the non clay specialists have skipped this event not being mandatory.
I know some may be injured, but there are players who start their clay swing later, somewhere else.

 

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[kskate2]

Nick is not top 12

OK. It's Monfils. But, don't you think it is unusal that 12 of top 25 players are missing MC. That is about half of them.

The attendance in Monte Carlo has always been spotty. I think it is because some of the non clay specialists have skipped this event not being mandatory.
I know some may be injured, but there are players who start their clay swing later, somewhere else.

Agreed.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

OK. It's Monfils. But, don't you think it is unusal that 12 of top 25 players are missing MC. That is about half of them.

The attendance in Monte Carlo has always been spotty. I think it is because some of the non clay specialists have skipped this event not being mandatory.
I know some may be injured, but there are players who start their clay swing later, somewhere else.

Agreed.

This has been non-mandatory for a while and so that cannot be used as the reason. I don't think the field was this bad in prior years (off the top of my head and without checking the facts).

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Zverev beats Seppi 6-1 6-2 in 68 minutes, in what may be a statement of intent.

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[Carol]

What a point by Bautista. Hope he feels well after his stomach problems since IW

 

[Carol]

Good win by Carreno vs Fog 7-6 6-7 6-3.

 

[Busted]

Four of the top 12 missing this tourney: RF, Milos, Kei and Nick. Also, 10 of top 25 missing. While the first number is not unusual, the second number seems unusual to me. Usually, the second tier players don't want to miss this one due to large number of points even though it is non-mandatory.

Nick is not top 12

And not showing up at this event isn't going to help his ranking. 21, hasn't been in a final all season - but...he needs a "rest" because he played 2 Davis Cup matches 6 days after his Miami SF run. Right.

 

[Kieran]

Tough opener for Novak! Gilles Simon is a proud guy, he might keep Nole out there longer than he'd like to be kept out there...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Tough opener for Novak! Gilles Simon is a proud guy, he might keep Nole out there longer than he'd like to be kept out there...

..........or he could keep Novak for a short time in Montecarlo than Nole had expected. :devil

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Nole already won against Simon today, although in doubles.

 

[kskate2]

The attendance in Monte Carlo has always been spotty. I think it is because some of the non clay specialists have skipped this event not being mandatory.
I know some may be injured, but there are players who start their clay swing later, somewhere else.

Agreed.

This has been non-mandatory for a while and so that cannot be used as the reason. I don't think the field was this bad in prior years (off the top of my head and without checking the facts).

So why don't you check and get back to us instead of assuming.

 

[Kieran]

Nole already won against Simon today, although in doubles.

Ah did he? Thanks for that, I didn't see any of it yet, busy day. I'm glad to see Novak play doubles, he needs the practice...

 

[Kieran]

Agreed.

This has been non-mandatory for a while and so that cannot be used as the reason. I don't think the field was this bad in prior years (off the top of my head and without checking the facts).

So why don't you check and get back to us instead of assuming.

The field in Monte Carlo is always strong, given that the only players who actually win these things are all members of the Big 4. Federer skips it, but he's a distant third (or fourth, or fifth) wheel on clay nowadays...

 

[mcekovic]

Current Monte Carlo predictions, updated every hour:
1-st Fav.

Novak Djokovic 24.7%
2-nd Fav.

Andy Murray 20.9%
3-rd Fav.

Rafael Nadal 13.7%

 

[Carol]

Current Monte Carlo predictions, updated every hour:
1-st Fav.

Novak Djokovic 24.7%
2-nd Fav.

Andy Murray 20.9%
3-rd Fav.

Rafael Nadal 13.7%

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[Carol]

What a brilliant point by Bautista, I hope he is feeling better after his stomach problems since IW and also in Miami, then he could do a good tournament

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