Mercedes Cup - Stuttgart ATP 250 - June 8-14

[pavlik89]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24iZlzaUfCs[/video]

 

[Carol]

^No one had a muppet attack. Beyond responding to you, mostly everyone here is discussing the tournament at hand, where Rosol went out in the first round. I, and even Carol, said that Rosol played great in that Wimbledon match. And nobody denied that he might not have done better in that other match you mention. We just ignored it, mostly. You were doing fine touting it (five times by my count now, just on this thread.)

And in fairness to you, I'm glad Rafa didn't have to play him today. I have no idea how that would have gone, but Nadal wasn't so sharp, and the rhythm match with Baggy was better for his preparation. You're given Broken credit for understanding you, but he's the one debating you on all this Rosol and Soderling history. You should really look back on the thread before you complain about how people reacted.

You should also read it properly as you were one of the people who objected to the post. Broken was the one Nadal fan who pointed out there was nothing wrong with what I said about Rosol.

Compare that to getting all defensive and touting some nonsense about Rosol needing to work on his legacy as you typed which was an unnecessary comment about Rosol, who I never claimed was some amazing player but simply that he gave him almost equally as much of a hard time 2 years later and that his knee(s) had very little bearing on the result. Instead of realizing the obvious (that he was actually 1 missed volley away from being up 2 sets to love) you wrote the below slagging his legacy. I think you know enough about to realize if he'd actually gone up 2 sets to love there was a strong chance he'd have won the match and he missed out on being up 2-0 in sets by 1 point. Not really that hard to grasp and there wasn't much of a need for the part below.


"You mentioned twice that he was almost up two sets to love. Which isn't actually being up two sets to love, and it's still not a win, even if he had managed it. Poor Rosol really needs to work on his legacy."

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3972&pid=188808#pid188808

And you should also go back and read Carol's replies properly too as we had the usual Nadal fan excuses about him only losing because of injury and that he would've won otherwise. It never gets old. As for Broken debating Soderling and Rosol, there's really not much to it imo. Both sides played differently each time. The winner played better when they won and the loser played not as well. It's not rocket science how the winner won. Not much to debate really.

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3972&pid=188817#pid188817

Excuse moi but I've never said that Nadal only lose bc he is injured. I said that after to lose against Soderling he couldn't defend his title in Wimbledon due to his knee INJURY and he had to be out of the court fot 3 or 4 months. Maybe he got that injury when he was flying back to Mallorca?
And I said that after he lose to your beloved Rosol (I thought that only was Federer :snicker) he had to be under a intensive knee treatment for 7 months if he wanted to continuous playing tennis, otherwise his carrer would be finished. Maybe he got that injury when he was fishing in Mallorca after that match? .
Rafa has lost many times without injuries but he also has played many times with, sometimes he did well but everything has a limit. Now he seems to be healthy but all those injuries and times off have given him certain lack of confidence which I hope it doesn't last too long, all depends on himself

 

[Puppet Master]

Nadal is playing OK. It's not 2008, but certainly better than last year. He is barely shanking the ball anymore, and has hit some beautiful backhands. If he could find his forehand before Wimbo, his matches would be watchable at least.

 

[kskate2]

Hello everyone. This thread is about Stuttgart. Let's get back to talking about matches that are happening in this tournament and not anything else.

Thank you.

 

[pavlik89]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YLpfkR5hqE[/video]

 

[the AntiPusher]

Do anyone has a good streaming link for this match , thx

 

[pavlik89]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_lOt6hk4Pk[/video]

 

[Moxie]

The ones listed above on from sport are working.

 

[pavlik89]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjAm17JmEJ4[/video]

 

[the AntiPusher]

Miss Carol or Pav can you put the match in its entirety on the this thread

Thanks

 

[pavlik89]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7zJSti9piQ[/video]

 

[Moxie]

That was a good match. Nadal should really have closed it out in 2, but the quality was high. Some crazy number of aces from Rafa. It's good to see Bernie so solid and serious about playing good tennis, too.

 

[pavlik89]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOmOkE8N0oQ[/video]

 

[the AntiPusher]

That was a good match. Nadal should really have closed it out in 2, but the quality was high. Some crazy number of aces from Rafa. It's good to see Bernie so solid and serious about playing good tennis, too.

Nah, Rafa needs the work. As he tunes his game , he will begin to close matches out in straight sets

 

[Carol]

Part one

http://youtu.be/7tKxPFLo20A

Part two

http://youtu.be/7tKxPFLo20A

Part three


http://youtu.be/L3RKZmrZto0

 

[the AntiPusher]

Part one

http://youtu.be/7tKxPFLo20A

Part two

http://youtu.be/7tKxPFLo20A

Part three


http://youtu.be/L3RKZmrZto0

Thanks Carol and Pav

 

[brokenshoelace]

It's always an event when Rafa wins a grass court match these days. I watched the first two sets and he looked better than he did yesterday. Good serving, decent returning, and impressively, good movement. The forehand down the line is absolutely garbage though. He needs to find that shot come Wimbledon.

 

[Carol]

My bad , this is the second part

http://youtu.be/GjdDPlwidys

 

[Carol]

When the top players are playing MS and GS their first opponents usually are easier to beat, but this grass 500 tournament is the best to training for Rafa, first Baghadis who always has been a good figther, then Tomic who is a very good player and tough opponent, tomorrow Monfils who is one of the best player of the Tour and of course VERY difficult to play against. If Rafa would reach the final he will be ready in Queens and even better in Wimbledon where I'd love he wins and then he would shaking out all those three awful last years

 

[Front242]

Baghdatis career grass record: 36-25. Never won a title on grass.

Tomic career grass record: 15-14. Never won a title on grass.

Tomic was good at Wimbledon 2011 where he reached the quarters. He hasn't done much since. 4th round in 2013 and 2nd round last year. I'll cut him some slack obviously 'cos he's still not long back from bilateral hip surgery which is rough at such a young age.

Baghdatis made the Wimbledon semis in 2006, quarters in 2007 and 4th round in 2008 but has done nothing there since. Neither guy was expected to win against Nadal.