Let's talk about 2017...

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Has an era ended, or just stalled?

Has a seismic shift occurred, or is about to occur?

Are you dreading the next season, or buoyed up about it, with regards to your favourite player?

Will you get to visit any of the major tennis tournaments?

What do you expect will happen next year?
 

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I start,no 1 & 2 seeds I think will stay @ the top by the end of 2017.Milos might win a Slam.
 

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There are quite a few storylines to follow, whoever you support.
It would take me about an hour to list all of the relevant ones at least, and algebra won't finish itself.
But here are 3 that probably everyone is dying to see unfold:
1) Can Roger come back to his 2015 form at the very least? If yes, watch out is all I will say. But he needs to fix his ranking before Wimbledon, which means to have a good clay season, without exerting himself too much.
2) No2e vs And1 for the #1 spot. Of course, if Novak is in a position to fight for it at all next year.
3) Rafa. If he can improve from what we've seen this year on clay, and remain healthy, it's gonna be a fun clay season, but he is one & done on hard courts as much as I hate to say it. I would love to be proven wrong.
 

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Andy has 12685 and Nole has 11780 points right now. The next in line is Milos with 5450, less than half of Nole's points.

As a result, I expect next year's prospects for Roger to be exciting, assuming he comes back fully healed. He should be easily be able to beat other players (except an occasional hick up here and there). He typically owns Andy. If Nole continues to be under Bolywood spell, I would not be surprised if Roger even takes back #1 ranking. :plot

I am sure that Andy will maintain his level next year. As far as the other big four members are concerned, we do have questions.
  1. We don't know whether Roger will be fully healed when he comes back. I am hopeful here, but we never know.
  2. We don't know how good Rafa will be when he comes back. I am not really expecting a miracle here.
  3. Novak's problems are not physical. We don't know as to how long the women problems will affect him. It almost ended Tiger as a big time player.

I don't really expect anyone to rise as a big time star next year. The others will kind of split the left overs after the Big four grab whatever they could.
 

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My biggest fear for 2017 is that neither Roger nor Rafa come back to even a semblance of their level and no new player rises up. In that case, going by the ranking points accumulated by players this year, almost all the tournaments will end up in Nolandy finals, which I thoroughly detest. I hate seeing that match up and will be really annoyed if it keeps happening week after week.
 

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Murray will be easier to chase down then Djoker was. This's season is Fed's last hurrah to truly be a serious threat to win a slam if that ship hasn't sailed already. Djoker will be a perineal top choice to win every slam just because he is just the most technical complete tennis player on tour. Unless it's, Stan or Andy, he will always be a heavy favorite vs Rafa or Roger. Rafa and Toni are talking a big change and a challenge to get back to top form but it may just be talk or the same ole same ole. It will take A perfect storm, US open 2014 for someone like Cilic to win again. To be honest with you , it's really up to whomever is really able to make the proper adjustments to the style of play for today's ATP players to say what will happen. My money is the same ole same ole, Djokovic vs Murray. :nono
 

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Will definitely get to SW19 and wil try and get to Roland Garros though my son has left Paris and thus (rather selfishly) doesn't have an apartment to put his mother and I up.

I expect a Murray Novak Aussie final, shock horror - Del Potro and Milos in the semis!

I think Rafa, Stan, Novak and Andy will contest the French - I'd leave it open at that because any permutation of finalist and winner is feasible just now.

Wimbledon will be a, draw permitting, final between Andy and Roger. Milos and Novak semis

NY - Milos v Nole. Semis????... Ok I take a punt at Stan and my bolter - Isner (maybe Delpo)

I don't think there will be any truly dominant player, especially if Roger and Rafa can come back with anything like reasonable form - with Stan, Delpo and Milos adding to their trophy haul I can't see Andy it Novak having these wild winning streaks - though if anyone was going to do it, it would still be the smart money to say Novak comes back and regains #1 and takes at least 2 more slams.
 

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I could echo a lot of what has already been said. The core dynamic seems to be the likelihood of a tedious "Novandy" (good one) war of attrition throughout the whole year, and whether or not Rafa and Roger have anything left to challenge them. There are some interesting challengers: Stanzilla is clearly still dangerous (although at some point will collapse quickly, imo, maybe even next year), and hopefully del Potro can continue his comeback. Milos seems to be pulling away from Kei and the rest of his generation as the main threat, and Cilic has occasional bursts but doesn't seem to be able to sustain it.

Thiem heads the next pack, with a new group of challengers and future 2nd tier players. Kyrgios will likely fit the Stan/Cilic/Safin mold of very dangerous when focused, but erratic. Pouille is an interesting player that should be with these two as future top 10 players, but not the leaders of the pack.

I'll also be watching Edmund and Khachanov to see if they can "do a Pouille" who "did a Thiem" this year. I could see Daniil Medvedev being the next in this line.

And then we have Alexander Zverev, who is the current best hope for a future elite. I think a good year would be him getting to the cusp of the top 10, but I'm not sure he's going to break in until 2018. 2017 will be about winning some more minor titles and going deeper in Slams, maybe even challenging for a Masters. The rest of the young guns are a ways from being relevant. We have to see if Fritz can take a step forward as he's stagnated since the spring. Players like Tiafoe, Kozlov, Lee, and Rublev will be fighting to get into and stay in the top 100. I'm ready to write Coric off as nothing more than another Bernard Tomic/Andreas Seppi type. He'll probably sneak into the top 20 at some point, but will mainly hang out in the 20-50 range.

On the way out: Gasquet, Berdych, Tsonga, Ferrer. Maybe Tsonga and Berd hang around the 10-20 range for a couple more years, but I think they're getting pushed out of the top 10 for good. I think Monfils will slip back rather quickly.

Random players I'll be watching: I could see Pablo Carreno Busta making some noise during clay season, maybe winning a title or three, even an ATP 500. Also, like some I could still see Grigor Dimitrov doing something...what, I don't know, but I could see a surprise Masters title and/or a Slam final appearance...probably not a Slam title, though.

Finally, as boring as a Novandy tandem could be, what makes 2017 interesting is that after those two the top ten is entirely up for grabs. Sure, we know the basic players who have a chance of being there, but the list is pretty long and it is unclear who will make it, and in what order, and there are several dark horse candidates.
 

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Raonic will hold firm in top 4/5 territory.

del Potro will go deep in at least two slams. Cilic will catch fire occasionally.

Wawrinka will disappear in the first quarter, or even half of the year, then do something out of the blue.

Nadal will arrive at the French with both eyes on it, and only an inspired top player will eventually stop him.

As for Federer, well, I am hoping for the best, but nothing will surprise me.
 

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hope Andy and Delpo''ll both have a great season (no injury please)
Federer and Nadal are done for big events, don't know if they still can play at a decent level but I won't miss them if they don't, tennis needs new faces such as Zverev, Thiem, bad Nick, Coric
 

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TennisFanatic7 said:
I'm mostly looking forward to what Federer can do on his return, and obviously whether Andy can pick up a few more slams before he's done.

Roger does not do much on return these days; It is only his serve that is good. :cool:
 

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TennisFanatic7 said:
I'm mostly looking forward to what Federer can do on his return, and obviously whether Andy can pick up a few more slams before he's done.

Murray will be the favourite at least the next 2-3 Wimbledons imo and at the upcoming AO.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
I'm mostly looking forward to what Federer can do on his return, and obviously whether Andy can pick up a few more slams before he's done.

Roger does not do much on return these days; It is only his serve that is good. :cool:

Hoping he brings back SABR next year. Slice and dice, baby!
 

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Front242 said:
Murray will be the favourite at least the next 2-3 Wimbledons imo and at the upcoming AO.

I'm really not ready to say that. Andy will b 30, 31, and 32 at the next three Wimbledons. Clearly he and Novak, as well as Roger, are aging very well, with only a few previous examples who have remained elite players into their 30s--Agassi, Connors, and of course Rosewall and Laver. We can add in the other factor, that the players born from 1989 until about 1996 don't show much in the way of elite talent. But even so, things can change at the drop of a hat. At some point some young player will emerge with blazing weapons and take Wimbledon by storm. It almost certainly won't be 2017, probably not 2018, but beyond that is hard to say.

I keep saying we're in a sea change and maintain that - or at least we're in the earlyish stages. The next few years will see this change quicken so that, five years from now, we'll have a completely different field. As well as Novak and Andy are playing now, their games won't be sustainable for more than another couple years. In other words, I don't see Novak retrieving any and everything at 35, probably not at 32. Similarly with Andy; will a 32 year old Andy be able to beat a prime 22 year old Zverev?

What could happen sooner than later is for Milos Raonic to serve his way through Wimbledon. If Roger comes back strong, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Milos-Roger final this year. I know it is less likely than an Andy-Novak final, but it is possible. Milos improved this year and I think will be a stronger player at Wimbledon in 2017 than he's every been.

The point being, even if Zverev and company aren't ready to take the reins until 2018 or so, we're going to see some upsets in the next couple years. I think Andy fans should prepare for his peak being 2016-17, but not beyond that.
 

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Front242 said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
I'm mostly looking forward to what Federer can do on his return, and obviously whether Andy can pick up a few more slams before he's done.

Murray will be the favourite at least the next 2-3 Wimbledons imo and at the upcoming AO.

Well, that depends on at what point Andy chooses to have an affair. :cool:

But, on second thoughts Andy may be affair proof; I mean, who would want to have an affair with a foul mouthed whiner. :snicker
 

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I think in terms of legacy wise, the Australian Open 2017 is important for Murray. He is playing his best tennis and Djokovic is vulnerable at the moment. If he can not capitalize this opportunity, then he will never win the Australian Open.

In a sense (different one of course), this is "Career Grand Slam" opportunity just like Federer in 2009 and Djokovic in 2016. Now of course he could win the French Open and not win the Australian Open in his career. But in my opinion, I just don't see him winning the French Open in his career. It is similar to Nadal not winning the World Tour Finals.

As for Djokovic, it is really all about Slams at this point of his career. I do not see anyone catching his Masters 1000 titles record, so he could only win 3 more of those titles and it will be enough.

All in all, 2017 will tell us more about the other players including Federer and Nadal. Will someone win their first slam in 2017? Will the young teenagers make a huge leap in the rankings? It will be interesting to see all of these scenarios folding in 2017.
 

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I don't finish to understand why some of you can put Rafa and Roger into the same "line'. I expect a lot more from Rafa than Roger and I don't say this because Rafa is may fav but because the age is a very important fact and more after the knee surgery. Rafa? he took the best decision, stop playing for two months taking care with his wrist after having the guts to play in Rio without a good practice and later paying very badly that decision. Now he is practicing without any problem and his first matches will be at the end of December which means has plenty time to be fitted for the AO without any miracle, just a good preparation and according his words he is very motived to make a good 2017.
Muzz seems to change a little bit his mind but who knows how long it's going to last. Novak? who knows what is going on around him? "his wife, the guru, some injuries (I don't believe it)" or just he can't play his A-game for ever and neither doing so much effort like he does tournament by tournament, to me he looks more burned out than anything else even without having (lucky him) any serious injury.
Raonic, Delpo, Cilic, Nishi.....we'll see, and the youngest ones? well......maybe one day.....
My wish? to see all of them playing their best and more the top 4 which as we can see is more than impossible but it would be great
 

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Front242 said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
I'm mostly looking forward to what Federer can do on his return, and obviously whether Andy can pick up a few more slams before he's done.

Murray will be the favourite at least the next 2-3 Wimbledons imo and at the upcoming AO.

Narrowly, perhaps, at Wimbledon. In Australia I'd put him as joint favourite with Nole at best.