itf/atp biological passport fully operational sept 2014

[Front242]

Another drug to watch for in tennis is Modafinil, which has a variety of uses. Read about it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil

A lot of good info here too and sorry to disappoint people who believe their favourite player's mental strength is a natural gift but chances are, it's not. There are drugs for everything these days, including focus.

http://alphamalemakeover.com/modafinil-review/

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Another drug to watch for in tennis is Modafinil, which has a variety of uses. Read about it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil

A lot of good info here too and sorry to disappoint people who believe their favourite player's mental strength is a natural gift but chances are, it's not. There are drugs for everything these days, including focus.

http://alphamalemakeover.com/modafinil-review/

Are you a pharmacist or a physician? Do you work for a drug company?

 

[Front242]

Another drug to watch for in tennis is Modafinil, which has a variety of uses. Read about it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil

A lot of good info here too and sorry to disappoint people who believe their favourite player's mental strength is a natural gift but chances are, it's not. There are drugs for everything these days, including focus.

http://alphamalemakeover.com/modafinil-review/

Are you a pharmacist or a physician? Do you work for a drug company?

Neither but thanks for asking.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Another drug to watch for in tennis is Modafinil, which has a variety of uses. Read about it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil

A lot of good info here too and sorry to disappoint people who believe their favourite player's mental strength is a natural gift but chances are, it's not. There are drugs for everything these days, including focus.

http://alphamalemakeover.com/modafinil-review/

Are you a pharmacist or a physician? Do you work for a drug company?

Neither but thanks for asking.

So you have a B.S. And a PhD in Google cutting and pasting.

Pseudo experts will one day bring down the world.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT. :idea:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

don't forget to vote everyone :idea:

the vote is not public apart from the number of votes for each option, even I cannot see who voted for what..hurry hurry there are only 34 voting days left (after u s open).

 

[GameSetAndMath]

The following two paragraphs are from a USA Today article. USA Today is not a tabloid.

"While casting as wide a net as possible, the ITF also targets players who might be suspected of doping, have past violations or have been associated with someone exposed in a doping scandal.

Richard Gasquet of France, David Ferrer of Spain and Sara Errani of Italy all fall into that category. All were tested at least four times in-competition and seven times out-of-competition in 2013."

If only disgruntled fans are fixated on players they don't like, why does ITF
give more attention to them? Do disgruntled fans have so much clout?

The way any scandal breaks out is in stages: innuendo, rumor, suspicion, allegation,
investigation and finally conviction; A scandal does not break out all of a sudden from
nowhere.

 

[Kieran]

The way any scandal breaks out is in stages: innuendo, rumor, suspicion, allegation,
investigation and finally conviction; A scandal does not break out all of a sudden from
nowhere.

Really? I don't remember any of those stages being involved when Petra Korda was done for drugs. McEnroe recently said he was on steroids without even knowing it, and Agassi blew the gaff on a whole can of worms, with none of these stages coming in advance of it.

So do you think that the first three parts of that - "innuendo, rumor, suspicion" - are a good basis for calling David Ferrer a drug cheat, based on the principle that he's apparently guilty by association.

Is this what you believe?

Because "innuendo, rumor, suspicion" can be arranged about any player - and in fact, have been...

 

[Kieran]

You read what you want into messages, instead of bothering to actually listen. You had
previously once claimed to read my mind in a baseless manner (on comfort break issue).
You also kept asking the same question without bothering to read my answer and then
had to accept it.

Forgive me if I remember the comfort break issue slightly differently. But there was no controversy there, and I don't think there was any disagreement on the details.

I do read your posts, and the subtext too. I read them cos I like to read them, and I know where you're coming from. You're probably not so "wise" as you think...

 

[britbox]

The biological passport may go some way toward helping anti-doping, some of it indirectly. It's based on historical analysis so it will take time for patterns, counts etc to build up into a profile.

In cycling, a few have been nailed on the results alone, but indirectly "suspicious" patterns and counts can lead to participants being targeted for more traditional testing.

In short, it's a good addition to the anti-doping program but not definitely not a bullet proof solution and micro-dosing is apparently still prevalent.

The common denominator for nearly all high profile drug busts is that it hasn't been the testing process that has caught them... or more accurately the anti-doping procedures (sometimes athletes have been caught but given a pass by their governing body).

The big drug busts have been Police/FBI/WADA investigations that have been independent of the sporting governing body.

I'd like to see a much greater degree of independence with the testing - the testing and investigation should be taken away completely from the governing body. WADA should be financed to run the whole lot. As it stands now, the ITF test tennis players, and the the ITF also promote the sport. Conflict of interest? Definitely.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

^^good point about the itf in charge of drug testing also promoting the sport.

some folk think that the itf/atp don't really want to catch or "out" drug cheats/ failed tests because it might make tennis look like its full of drug cheats on the "hot sauce" lol.

 

[Moxie]

^^good point about the itf in charge of drug testing also promoting the sport.

some folk think that the itf/atp don't really want to catch or "out" drug cheats/ failed tests because it might make tennis look like its full of drug cheats on the "hot sauce" lol.

I had thought that the ITF did have someone else do the testing. But I found this:

http://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/about-the-programme/history.aspx

so they do run the testing for men and women. That does seem wrong…does seem a conflict of interests, as BB says, and certainly doesn't improve public trust in the transparency of the system.

 

[Front242]

^ Yeah, it's completely wrong and it means the sport will remain the way it is unless WADA take over. Their budget for testing is also minuscule.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

so that shock news a while back in cycling from the lance Armstrong era was there were alot of inside people in on the drug cheating..:s

means that seeing as the itf/atp who do the doping tests also promote the sport.. then all the ingredients are there for the itf to maybe hide/lose/use masking agents to cover up possible positive drug test...:huh:

..if the itf wanted to "protect" the sport/cash cow/status quo in tennis...just like in cycling.

 

[Front242]

^ Hence why silent bans aren't a myth as we saw from Cilic. I still maintain it will take players to rat out other players to get something done but it's not like they carry vials of HGH and syringes with them to the locker room. Yes, in its current state, the ITF can do as they please sadly to protect their sport and keep it clean in the public image. We can only hope WADA hire more staff and step up.

 

[Front242]

Just linking this post again as it shows how little testing is going on. 200 tests at Roland Garros last year across all the draws and we all know there are more than 200 players playing. That's actually less than half. People see the number 200 and go oh, that's quite a lot though. Wrong. Add up the players in the men's and women's singles and doubles main draws as well as the qualifiers and the juniors' tournaments and you'll see what I mean.

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2815&pid=124324#pid124324

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

^^yes the drum must be banged for the testing to be overseen by wada and not the itf/atp. I mean hopefully the itf would not collude with players who might test positive...(but, there is always a "but")

.. but lets face reality here, when cilic pulled out of Wimbledon with a knee injury but turned out it was cover for failing a drugs test..that was a punch in the stomach for tennis fans. we only found out about the silent ban later and then the itf/atp said "oh we were waiting for the b test to come through"..they allowed everyone to think he was just injured when he was a drugs cheat, as we all sadly found out later...

 

[Moxie]

^^yes the drum must be banged for the testing to be overseen by wada and not the itf/atp. I mean hopefully the itf would not collude with players who might test positive...(but, there is always a "but")

.. but lets face reality here, when cilic pulled out of Wimbledon with a knee injury but turned out it was cover for failing a drugs test..that was a punch in the stomach for tennis fans. we only found out about the silent ban later and then the itf/atp said "oh we were waiting for the b test to come through"..they allowed everyone to think he was just injured when he was a drugs cheat, as we all sadly found out later...

These are HUGE problems that the ITF has to address, if nothing else, on the PR-front. They're losing credibility in a climate where all sports fans want to know that there sport is clean, or reasonably so. At least freaking up-to-date and making an effort at transparency.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

^^yes the drum must be banged for the testing to be overseen by wada and not the itf/atp. I mean hopefully the itf would not collude with players who might test positive...(but, there is always a "but")

Wayne Odesnik was caught by Australian Customs folks for carrying HGH and was arrested
by the Australian Police. Later, he was given a two year ban by ITF/ATP. Then the ban
was reduced to one year as he was cooperating with ITF/ATP authorities. So far, no
word on what exactly is this "cooperation" business and you are thinking ITF/ATP would
not collude with the players.

 

[Front242]

^^yes the drum must be banged for the testing to be overseen by wada and not the itf/atp. I mean hopefully the itf would not collude with players who might test positive...(but, there is always a "but")

Wayne Odesnik was caught by Australian Customs folks for carrying HGH and was arrested
by the Australian Police. Later, he was given a two year ban by ITF/ATP. Then the ban
was reduced to one year as he was cooperating with ITF/ATP authorities. So far, no
word on what exactly is this "cooperation" business and you are thinking ITF/ATP would
not collude with the players.

Here's the transcript from an interview with Odesnik http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=90418

And another good read about him here http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/06/24/fixing-doping-whistle-blowing-secrets-that-tennis-prefers-not-to-discuss-240601/

From the Wimbledon website discussing why his 2 year ban was halved http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/interviews/2012-06-27/201206271340811638809.html