Internazionali BNL d'Italia, Rome ATP 1000, 2018

[the AntiPusher]

Figured Nole might play respectable one set and killed the other. This embarrassment is a necessity for him though if he ever is to truly become relevant again.

You really are harsh on Novak.,Remember.just as he gets up for Rafa, he will be even more inspired to dethrone Roger.

 

[rafanoy1992]

Djokovic right now reminds me of Nadal from 2015-2016 where the desire or fire is there but physically he is not there yet. If he continues to play with desire, he will return in the Top 5 sooner rather than later. But he needs to regain his physical stamina first...

 

[DarthFed]

You really are harsh on Novak.,Remember.just as he gets up for Rafa, he will be even more inspired to dethrone Roger.

Why would he be even more inspired? He definitely isn't coming close to catching Roger and he knows that. If he somehow turns his career around now he could still be a threat to pushing Nadal down.

Anyways the guy is still going down in straights here on a surface much better for him than RG will be. Nole won't be a threat until at least USO but it is right now "indefinitely"

 

[Federberg]

I'm glad to see that Novak is at least on the path to recovery at last. He's probably still many months and tournaments away from being a competitive no1 threat again though

 

[monfed]

Fun to watch faker expose dull's 1D game for what it is even if he isn't winning. But faker recovering is bad news for Fed.

 

[britbox]

I think Djokovic will take a lot out this probable loss.

 

[Moxie]

I think Djokovic will take a lot out this probable loss.

He should. He played the best he's looked all year.

 

[DarthFed]

Nah, he's still nobody for now. But going up against the elites can only help the motivation and that's what he needs. I'm shocked he's fallen so far and now he's becoming a bit of a distant memory in this era. That "should" hurt him but maybe it doesn't and there's the problem.

 

[Moxie]

Nah, he's still nobody for now. But going up against the elites can only help the motivation and that's what he needs. I'm shocked he's fallen so far and now he's becoming a bit of a distant memory in this era. That "should" hurt him but maybe it doesn't and there's the problem.

He's a proud and ambitious guy. I'm sure he hates losing this one, and he has improved a lot over the last few weeks.

 

[Moxie]

I think Rafa just past Roger for most wins at the MS 1000 level. They said before this match that they were tied.

 

[DarthFed]

He's a proud and ambitious guy. I'm sure he hates losing this one, and he has improved a lot over the last few weeks.

I don't buy it. If he was still the same ambitious guy he wouldn't be absent the last two years. And what improvement the last few weeks? He lost to Edmund in the 2nd round of Madrid. Also remember that Rome was his only decent big tournament last year as well.

 

[DarthFed]

I think Rafa just past Roger for most wins at the MS 1000 level. They said before this match that they were tied.

But the schedule favors Roger who plays 3 on his worst surface and 6 on his 2nd worst vs 3 on Rafa's best and 6 on his 2nd worst

 

[the AntiPusher]

But the schedule favors Roger who plays 3 on his worst surface and 6 on his 2nd worst vs 3 on Rafa's best and 6 on his 2nd worst

You have way too much time on your hands.. Great stats Darth

 

[monfed]

As usual Nadull will win everything on clay because of zero competition and to vulture ranking points and Fed has to work for every point on HCs. So unfair!

 

[Moxie]

Tennis has been so unfair and unkind to poor Roger.

 

[Federberg]

Fun to watch faker expose dull's 1D game for what it is even if he isn't winning. But faker recovering is bad news for Fed.

For you to think Rafa has a one dimensional game any more makes me realise your knowledge of tennis is seriously limited. Secondly how you get to Djokovic recovering being worse for Federer is quite beyond me. A dominant Djokovic will eventually stop Nadal in his tracks. He'll match Rafa on clay and along with Roger eliminate almost any chance Rafa has of winning slams off clay. It is unquestionably worse for Rafa than Roger if Novak regains his mojo, Federer simply has too many titles in the bank already anything accruing to Novak has to be worse for Rafa

 

[monfed]

For you to think Rafa has a one dimensional game any more makes me realise your knowledge of tennis is seriously limited. Secondly how you get to Djokovic recovering being worse for Federer is quite beyond me. A dominant Djokovic will eventually stop Nadal in his tracks. He'll match Rafa on clay and along with Roger eliminate almost any chance Rafa has of winning slams off clay. It is unquestionably worse for Rafa than Roger if Novak regains his mojo, Federer simply has too many titles in the bank already anything accruing to Novak has to be worse for Rafa

I always find it funny when someone who doesn't know what they're talking about confronts my tennis knowledge. Usually when somebody does that they instantly regret it, you're not the first and probably won't be the last.

Yes, Nadull IS a one dimensional, glorified clay specialist who wouldn't have won more than 1 or 2 RGs in the 90s and earlier eras and have success anywhere close to what he has now but that is for another topic and another day. Even on clay, he needs the sun out, the clay to be dry, a tired opponent, ton of luck, be fresh himself, waste time between points and have every single advantage in the rallies from being a left hander(FH to BH being the obvious one) to get a clean win and he STILL cannot get a clean win. What a joke! Even today Faker should've won that first set and from there it's anybody's game.

As far as faker being a bigger threat to Fed than dull...were you in a coma in 2014-2016? I'm pretty sure faker did more damage to Fed than dull in that period aside from RG 15 where Nadull was simply not himself. If eggovic is giving fits to a well playing dull on slow clay even for a set, that means he's well on his way to recovery and winning bigger on faster tournaments, that includes grass and HC which is encroaching on Fed's territory. Fed hasn't beaten faker in a slam since Wimbledon 2012, let that sink in. Fed has grown a phobia of playing faker and that will come back to bite him if he plays him at Wimbledon and USO.

Ofcourse faker can beat dull like a drum and should be as he's the better player but it doesn't really harm him unless it's at RG. Sure USO has become dull's home away from RG due to the disgusting and scandalous court tampering and losing to faker there wouldn't be pleasant but it hardly hurts Nadull in the overall picture as he's already filled his quota of slams for the year at RG. However, if faker beats Fed at Wimbledon, then that could potentially derail Fed's entire season. By the time Wimbledon arrives, Faker would be in top flight form and could upset Fed there. USO will be even worse for Fed as faker will be much stronger there and Fed's form in 2018 has been shitty to say the least.

Until faker starts consistently beating Nadull at RG, not Rome, not Madrid, not MC, not USO, RG and RG only, he ain't damaging dull more than Fed.

 

[monfed]

Tennis has been so unfair and unkind to poor Roger.

You know instead of giving a sarcastic reply, if you had actually acknowledged Nadull's disgusting endless luck, I would've taken you a little more seriously but as it stands you're just another run of the mill Fed hating dull fangirl.

 

[DarthFed]

Tennis has been so unfair and unkind to poor Roger.

Poor guy has done alright for himself. But #17 is right around the corner and there is no decent clay courter in sight. Rafa is probably finishing with 14+ so Roger has got to keep that greed up high. 23 slams should do the trick and hopefully break the spirit of the island boy.

 

[monfed]

Poor guy has done alright for himself. But #17 is right around the corner and there is no decent clay courter in sight. Rafa is probably finishing with 14+ so Roger has got to keep that greed up high. 23 slams should do the trick and hopefully break the spirit of the island boy.

Fed's got another slam or two in him and if he doesn't win Wimbledon or USO specially the former this year, that number drops to 0 or 1. Fed will be 37 next year and that is the new 30 of the current era.