Indian Wells 2015

[MargaretMcAleer]

Rafa had 3MPS from memory in that 2nd set,that is when the should comes into play.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

As I stated in my original post,apparently some posters cannot read

Milos deserved his win

Though I wont be watching the Federer v Milos match.

 

[Front242]

Doesn't make any difference. You don't deserve to win if you don't win those points.

 

[rafanoy1992]

The thing that frustated me is that Nadal actually played well. It wasn't that he played poorly or something, it's just that he couldn't capitalize on the big crucial moments. Now, I give credit to Raonic for stepping up on some of those moments with some big serves and clutch volleys.

For me moving forward, Nadal just need to be mentally ready to take those opportunities and just be defensive or hope that his opponents make a wild shot.

However I will say this, he needs to improve his serve especially towards the end of the match. It might not hurted him against Raonic, but he can't afford to lose his first percentage as the match goes on or else opponents will punish him for it.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I gave Milos credit.I am not getting into a Nick Picking conversation with you Front on every word I post.Period.

 

[Front242]

Yeah I can see that you gave him credit but saying someone should have won 'cos they had match points is basically demeaning the winner in more matches than we could humanly type on this forum and therefore is pointless. The person who should have won did 'cos they won match point. The person who could have won didn't.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

For goodness sakes Where In My Post did I demean Milos

Let it go...honestly this is kindergarten stuff

I have better things to do with my time,getting a lecture from you Thanks.

 

[Front242]

^ By saying Nadal should have won you did. It's completely contradictory to say he deserved his win but Nadal should have won. There aren't any draws in tennis.

 

[Carol]

Yeah I can see that you gave him credit but saying someone should have won 'cos they had match points is basically demeaning the winner in more matches than we could humanly type on this forum and therefore is pointless. The person who should have won did 'cos they won match point. The person who could have won didn't.

Has someone say the opposite? when someone wins is due that he has play better or the opponent has played worse, correct? until now I have not read from any Rafa's fan that Raonic has not deserved to win
I hope you can say the same when your fav loses

 

[rafanoy1992]

As for Miami, I think Nadal will do well on that tournament because his tennis form is getting better and he is starting to show his old self.

The question I have for him is how he will deal the same situation he had against Raonic today in the future?

I mean he played well throughout the match until his last service game but he still couldn't finish the match. That's why I am curious to see on how he will handle those types of situations in the future.

 

[Front242]

Yeah I can see that you gave him credit but saying someone should have won 'cos they had match points is basically demeaning the winner in more matches than we could humanly type on this forum and therefore is pointless. The person who should have won did 'cos they won match point. The person who could have won didn't.

Has someone say the opposite? when someone wins is due that he has play better or the opponent has played worse, correct? until now I have not read from any Rafa's fan that Raonic has not deserved to win
I hope you can say the same when your fav loses

Yes I sure can and wouldn't say he should have won 'cos it's only could not should. Could if not for a botched volley, double fault, netted forehand, horrible shank, opponent hit unretrievable service winners, etc. Let's start a pointless thread so on matches the guy who had match points should have won. It'll mean many slams and masters should have been won by the other guy according to that logic. Makes no sense.

 

[Carol]

Nadal didn't play badly today at all.

Let's go to put it in this way,if Rafa would play well he wouldn't have lost against Raonic, as clear like crystal :idea:

 

[Front242]

Nadal didn't play badly today at all.

Let's go to put it in this way,if Rafa would play well he wouldn't have lost against Raonic, as clear like crystal :idea:

Oh so now he didn't play well right? Wrong. Other Nadal fans have acknowledged he did in fact play well, (and he did) his opponent was just better at the end, especially the last 2 games.

 

[Carol]

Nadal didn't play badly today at all.

Let's go to put it in this way,if Rafa would play well he wouldn't have lost against Raonic, as clear like crystal :idea:

Oh so now he didn't play well right? Wrong. Other Nadal fans have acknowledged he did in fact play well, (and he did) his opponent was just better at the end, especially the last 2 games.

If for you Rafa has played well (his real game) then it's clear that you have not seen too much tennis :nono

 

[rafanoy1992]

Nadal didn't play badly today at all.

Let's go to put it in this way,if Rafa would play well he wouldn't have lost against Raonic, as clear like crystal :idea:

Actually, Nadal did play well and I thought he outplayed Raonic until the last two games of the match. You can even look at the stats. The only thing that Nadal didn't do well was break point opportunites and those 30-all chances he had on Raonic's serve throughout the 2nd and 3rd set.

And that's why I am so frustrated with this loss because Nadal didn't took those chances to beat Raonic.

And that what's worrying me about Nadal is that three of his four losses this year happened after winning the first set. Yes, part of it is that he just came off injuries. But another part is his inability to put away opponents when he is on a winning position.

 

[Front242]

Let's go to put it in this way,if Rafa would play well he wouldn't have lost against Raonic, as clear like crystal :idea:

Oh so now he didn't play well right? Wrong. Other Nadal fans have acknowledged he did in fact play well, (and he did) his opponent was just better at the end, especially the last 2 games.

If for you Rafa has played well (his real game) then it's clear that you have not seen too much tennis :nono

He played very well the first set and a half and it took till the very end of set 3 for Raonic to come up with some very inspired play to break for 6-5 but in no way did Nadal not play well to lose serve there. Raonic simply played extremely well and when he served out like a pro at the end there's not much Nadal or anyone else can do about 140+ mph aces. No one is at their highest level every day of the week but that doesn't mean they didn't play well. Newsflash: Nadal can lose even when he plays well. So can the other top players. He did not play badly by any stretch of the imagination and was very good much of the match.

 

[Carol]

Nadal didn't play badly today at all.

Let's go to put it in this way,if Rafa would play well he wouldn't have lost against Raonic, as clear like crystal :idea:

Actually, Nadal did play well and I thought he outplayed Raonic until the last two games of the match. You can even look at the stats. The only thing that Nadal didn't do well was break point opportunites and those 30-all chances he had on Raonic's serve throughout the 2nd and 3rd set.

And that's why I am so frustrated with this loss because Nadal didn't took those chances to beat Raonic.

And that what's worrying me about Nadal is that three of his four losses this year happened after winning the first set. Yes, part of it is that he just came off injuries. But another part is his inability to put away opponents when he is on a winning position.

Yep, and that's exactly what I said before, something named 'a lack of confidence' which makes him his inability to win the tiebreak, for example

 

[rafanoy1992]

Let's go to put it in this way,if Rafa would play well he wouldn't have lost against Raonic, as clear like crystal :idea:

Actually, Nadal did play well and I thought he outplayed Raonic until the last two games of the match. You can even look at the stats. The only thing that Nadal didn't do well was break point opportunites and those 30-all chances he had on Raonic's serve throughout the 2nd and 3rd set.

And that's why I am so frustrated with this loss because Nadal didn't took those chances to beat Raonic.

And that what's worrying me about Nadal is that three of his four losses this year happened after winning the first set. Yes, part of it is that he just came off injuries. But another part is his inability to put away opponents when he is on a winning position.

Yep, and that's exactly what I said before, something named 'a lack of confidence' which makes him his inability to win the tiebreak, for example

Very true, let's just hope at some point he actually take matters on his hand on finishing these types of matches instead of just being passive and let the opponents beat him.

 

[herios]

I was not home today and just checked the result.
Nice one
All I am saying, as I mentioned yesterday, I was sure Milos will be able to beat Rafa at one point. he looked good all week long, he was not broken once until today and he looked very impressive 2 days ago.
Keeping up the hard work, in time will pay off. Congrats once again to Milos!

 

[TsarMatt]

All the time Nadal loses, this is how I feel after spending some time on a tennis forum: