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I'm gutted. I said on my facebook reading group that my non-fiction book at the moment is "A history of ancient Britain" by Neil Oliver & got a response that if I like the history of Ancient Britain there was a programme on Sky called "Britannia" & it looked interesting but I don't have Sky.
I know I've typed this before but I realised I'd made a mistake after I lost the privilege of an edit so I'll add a footnote.
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You have a ride on the fair-ground, shop, go to the pub, go to school (I got the multiplication question right but not the question on Victorian money, I played hop-scotch. What I didn't like about going to school was when I was told I wouldn't have studied the diagram behind the teacher's desk showing the constitution of a horse as I was female & girls got taught only the bare minimum to prepare them for their role in life which was to look after their home, husband & children & they went home at dinner-time.) go to the music teacher's house, dentist, Manor house & taste freshly made bread, go down the mine (if you wish), in an old bank, on a replica of Stevenson's locomotion No. 1, you can help make clippy rugs from rags, there's now a baker's & photographer's where you can have your photograph taken in old-fashioned clothes (for an extra charge of course) & there's a fish shop & 1940s farm area where you can taste freshly baked scones with freshly made jam & see patchwork quilts being made.
When I said girls went home at dinner-time it should have read they went home at dinner-time on Mondays to help Mother with washing.
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You have a ride on the fair-ground, shop, go to the pub, go to school (I got the multiplication question right but not the question on Victorian money, I played hop-scotch. What I didn't like about going to school was when I was told I wouldn't have studied the diagram behind the teacher's desk showing the constitution of a horse as I was female & girls got taught only the bare minimum to prepare them for their role in life which was to look after their home, husband & children & they went home at dinner-time.) go to the music teacher's house, dentist, Manor house & taste freshly made bread, go down the mine (if you wish), in an old bank, on a replica of Stevenson's locomotion No. 1, you can help make clippy rugs from rags, there's now a baker's & photographer's where you can have your photograph taken in old-fashioned clothes (for an extra charge of course) & there's a fish shop & 1940s farm area where you can taste freshly baked scones with freshly made jam & see patchwork quilts being made.
When I said girls went home at dinner-time it should have read they went home at dinner-time on Mondays to help Mother with washing.
Did you know that the Magellan Strait named after the Portuguese explorer who discovered it was originally named "Estrecho de Todos los Santos" meaning "The channel of All Saints" because it was 1st reached on All Saints Day? (I didn't originally know what "Estrecho" meant but worked out "de Todos los Santos" because of it's similarity to Spanish which I learnt for my holidays.
Did you know that Magellan also named the Pacific Ocean because of how quiet it seemed? He called it "mar Pacifico" which actually means "Pacific sea" with words turned round to make sense in English.
Do you also know he named "Tierra del fuego" which means "the land of fire" due to the amount of fires burning on the archipelago?
Did you know that Magellan also named the Pacific Ocean because of how quiet it seemed? He called it "mar Pacifico" which actually means "Pacific sea" with words turned round to make sense in English.
Do you also know he named "Tierra del fuego" which means "the land of fire" due to the amount of fires burning on the archipelago?
What 1st got me interested in history is the fact we didn't learn about the constitution of a horse in science so as most of the world would have been at a standstill without horses at 1 time & we heard a lot about horses in history I loved it. I later got interested in how people lived before the existence of the mod cons we have today. I'm particularly interested in soc. & economic history & medical history. I got a book yesterday called "the age of the horse" about the relationship between humankind & horses in history which should be fascinating though I already know some of it.
What about you? What 1st got you interested in history & why? What's your favourite type of history?
What about you? What 1st got you interested in history & why? What's your favourite type of history?
Did you know the battle of Wakefield wasn't actually fought in Wakefield itself but a nearby village called Sandal?
Did you know that the battle of Hastings wasn't actually fought in Hastings but a place nearby called Battle?
Did you know that the battle of Hastings wasn't actually fought in Hastings but a place nearby called Battle?
Did you know the 1st chronometer was invented 250 years ago in Wakefield by John Harrison?
Did you know that the 1st glass-making machine was invented by someone in Ferrybridge in 1877 & sold to Bagley's glassworks in Pontefract? I was amazed when I found this out as I'd seen people glassblowing & thought glass was still made by glassblowers using this method. Mind you, until recently I thought books were still made by book-binders the old way.
Did you know that the 1st glass-making machine was invented by someone in Ferrybridge in 1877 & sold to Bagley's glassworks in Pontefract? I was amazed when I found this out as I'd seen people glassblowing & thought glass was still made by glassblowers using this method. Mind you, until recently I thought books were still made by book-binders the old way.
I feel the need to talk about the Glencoe massacre today & as I've already gave a date & shared a song I think I'd better give my version of events. It's not as good & nice as the song but here goes.
King William of Orange made all Scots pledge allegiance to him in writing by 1/1/1692. For the McDonald's of Glencoe they were supposed to do this by going to Inverary Castle & signing a register of all the people pledging allegiance to William of Orange. Glencoe also known as the Glen of weeping is in the Highlands in a spot that is treacherous at the best of times & quite a way away from Inverary & it was very snowy. The McDonald's came slightly late so missed the deadline. The Campbell's might have let them off but they were their worst enemies so didn't. They got an order signed by the King to slaughter the McDonald's of Glencoe. They arrived late in the night after travelling from Fort William (where they gathered more men) to the habitations of the McDonald's. It was a custom in those days that you would entertain anyone as guests & feed them as well as offer them shelter if they came unarmed. (Scots in trad. Highland dress have a knife in their sock called a skian dhu & another in their jacket pocket called a dirk so I don't know whether by unarmed they meant completely or just with dirk & skian dhu). They fed, entertained & offered the Campbell's a bed for the night. @ 5 am on 13/2/1692 the Campbell's slaughtered the McDonald's of Glencoe. It may seem a long time & short distance but don't forget the quickest form of transport in those days was the horse & they travelled in a blizzard + it was in the Highlands of Scotland & mountainous terrain is treacherous at the best of times. It was later seen as a heinous crime.
King William of Orange made all Scots pledge allegiance to him in writing by 1/1/1692. For the McDonald's of Glencoe they were supposed to do this by going to Inverary Castle & signing a register of all the people pledging allegiance to William of Orange. Glencoe also known as the Glen of weeping is in the Highlands in a spot that is treacherous at the best of times & quite a way away from Inverary & it was very snowy. The McDonald's came slightly late so missed the deadline. The Campbell's might have let them off but they were their worst enemies so didn't. They got an order signed by the King to slaughter the McDonald's of Glencoe. They arrived late in the night after travelling from Fort William (where they gathered more men) to the habitations of the McDonald's. It was a custom in those days that you would entertain anyone as guests & feed them as well as offer them shelter if they came unarmed. (Scots in trad. Highland dress have a knife in their sock called a skian dhu & another in their jacket pocket called a dirk so I don't know whether by unarmed they meant completely or just with dirk & skian dhu). They fed, entertained & offered the Campbell's a bed for the night. @ 5 am on 13/2/1692 the Campbell's slaughtered the McDonald's of Glencoe. It may seem a long time & short distance but don't forget the quickest form of transport in those days was the horse & they travelled in a blizzard + it was in the Highlands of Scotland & mountainous terrain is treacherous at the best of times. It was later seen as a heinous crime.
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According to the history books the whole of humanity originated from Africa. Lots of people migrated to other places millions of years ago when Europe was still part of Pangaea & when we were still homo erectus as we hadn't evolved into homo sapiens yet. Over time the people who moved to countries with colder climates developed lighter skins in the same way that people evolved from apes (according to Darwin's theory of evolution).
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I could also offend so-called Christians who are against Jews. They're supposed to believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ & follow them but forget the fact that Jesus was a Jew & Judaism was the original religion mentioned in the Bible for people to follow & that the 10 commandments & rules on Kosher etc. are not only stated in the old testament but in the Torah which the Jews obey too.
We often think of central heating, plumbing & under-floor heating as modern things but did you know they were all originally Roman inventions which were rediscovered round-about 1000 or more years after the Romans 1st used them?
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Actually ]"Estrecho de Todos los Santos" sounds much more like modern Spanish than modern Portuguese. Thing is that around the XIV and XV century both languages were pretty similar. In modern Portuguese this would be "Estreito de Todos os Santos". Two classical Portuguese - Spanish relationships there: suffix "etcho" turns to "eito" and article "los" becomes "os".
About Magellan, I kept reading about this guy till one day very late in my life I realized you people were talking about Fernão de Magalhães....
I stand corrected. :0) I thought it sounded very Spanish but noticed that when I tried to learn Portuguese that it looked like a cross between French & Spanish with a difference. I still think it looks similar. I'd have actually found it easier to translate the 1st word if it was written like you wrote it because "Estreito" looks more like "Strait" than "Estrecho" so an educated guess would have given me a complete right answer rather than 4/5 of a right answer. I actually felt good when I managed to work out most of the name & the name of the sea & most of the name of the land while reading the history book before looking at the translation. Thank you very much for your information.Actually ]"Estrecho de Todos los Santos" sounds much more like modern Spanish than modern Portuguese. Thing is that around the XIV and XV century both languages were pretty similar. In modern Portuguese this would be "Estreito de Todos os Santos". Two classical Portuguese - Spanish relationships there: suffix "etcho" turns to "eito" and article "los" becomes "os".
About Magellan, I kept reading about this guy till one day very late in my life I realized you people were talking about Fernão de Magalhães....
Since Magellan was Portuguese we all made a translation error with his name then. :0) I made a similar mistake with Scottish history. I'd read the rise & fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbons & read about Antoninus's wall which stretched between Edinburgh & Glasgow to keep the Scots in Scotland then I kept watching programmes about the history of Scotland & hearing about the Antonine wall. It wasn't until later that I realised that Antoninus's wall so-called because Antoninus Pius ordered the building of it was the Antonine wall. :0)
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To celebrate international women's Day I decided to write a piece on women in history who proved they were just as good as men. I hope you enjoy. If you can think of others, please feel free to add them.
Queen Boudicea/Boudicca of the Iceni tribe who torched Colchester & did other gory things to the women there after the Romans took advantage of her & her daughters by raping them after her husband died.
Queen Cleopatra.
Queen Elizabeth I though I disagree with how she treated Mary, Queen of Scots.
Charlotte Bronte because Jane Eyre was seen by Charles Dickens as the master-piece of a literary genius.
Amelia Earhart & Amy Johnson for their work in aviation.
Marie Curie.
Florence Nightingale.
Queen Boudicea/Boudicca of the Iceni tribe who torched Colchester & did other gory things to the women there after the Romans took advantage of her & her daughters by raping them after her husband died.
Queen Cleopatra.
Queen Elizabeth I though I disagree with how she treated Mary, Queen of Scots.
Charlotte Bronte because Jane Eyre was seen by Charles Dickens as the master-piece of a literary genius.
Amelia Earhart & Amy Johnson for their work in aviation.
Marie Curie.
Florence Nightingale.
I also think we need to remember the suffragettes on International Women's Day as they fought so hard to get women the vote.
We need to remember the ladies who worked very hard to keep our country going in both world wars when most of our men were at war.
We need to remember the ladies who worked very hard to keep our country going in both world wars when most of our men were at war.
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Interesting coincidence! Maybe this somewhat led @El Dude to his post, and @DarthFed following reply... as the scene occurs precisely on the Ides of March.
Actually the date was an important Roman date, and got itself immortalized by the Shakespearean passage. But I would really would like to know if there is any (anecdotal or not) factual evidence to it. You can gather some basic information googling it but unfortunately I got no time to search for a good source.
And (being extremely boring and detailed, sorry Ann!), I guess "et tu" would translate here more like "even you", given the bitter surprise of Caesar.
I don't think so somehow as I don't think they read or follow the history thread. I know it happens on the Ides of March & that was on the 15th because I remember the 15th of March well as it's Dad's Birthday on that date.
I'll look later if I get a chance but I normally write from memory & do my research the old way as in google is a pile of books or a library.
It's o.k. I appreciate your honesty Mrzz. I'd rather be told if I'm wrong. The person who always thinks they're right never learns anything which would be monotonous in the same way that the person who always thinks they're wrong gets depressed & demotivated & ends up doing nothing. I'm not arrogant. I admit my mistakes. I'm human & do make them like everyone else. I guess I had my French head on & translated "et tu" from French instead of Latin. I recall my history teacher saying it translated into "You too, Brutus" because apparently he was Caesar's cousin & best friend.
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I'm looking for more information on it now @mrzz. You were right as always. :0) From a quick browse there were many religious events observed on this day including New Years Day so many people partied & it was a day when they settled debts. We have to remember the Roman calendar didn't start in January like ours does but in March which is why September, October, November & December have prefixes meaning 7, 8, 9 & 10 respectively because they were the 7th, 8th, 9th & 10th month respectively.
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