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Go watch the match again and try not to be biased. It's the truth.

problem is he'll only see what he wants to see, even by watching it.

The vast majority of people i know are not close to being objective, like 99% of them.
 

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Yes you saw both matches and you only saw what you wanted to see of course. And the result is Feli frickin Lopez is apparently better on grass than Federer in top form. Again I repeat no one will take you seriously with such clownish statements. I know you have a hard-on for all the Spaniards so I'm guessing the next thing you'll say is that RBA and Ferrer would have beaten Fed today too.
Are you kidding me? are you sure that Roger frickin Federer is on top form? why? because he has played against who? and it seems that you are taking very seriously what I say because the way that you stupidly are responding. Leave the Spaniards alone and stop to provoke. Like I said it's not necessary to open the 'federal war thread" because I read the same "s%^t" thread by thread. Hey IMO a final between both "frikin" players would have been a lot more interesting if YOU LIKE OR NOT
 

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problem is he'll only see what he wants to see, even by watching it.

The vast majority of people i know are not close to being objective, like 99% of them.
And my question is if you think that you are objective or you only see what you want to see, each one with his own, isn't?
 

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And my question is if you think that you are objective or you only see what you want to see, each one with his own, isn't?

i am different here, as i am the only one of this bunch who is fan of neither. I don't need to win verbal contest for the sake of my 'idol' like the rest of you. So yes i am closer to being more objective than the rest of you.
 

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Are you kidding me? are you sure that Roger frickin Federer is on top form? why? because he has played against who? and it seems that you are taking very seriously what I say because the way that you stupidly are responding. Leave the Spaniards alone and stop to provoke. Like I said it's not necessary to open the 'federal war thread" because I read the same "s%^t" thread by thread. Hey IMO a final between both "frikin" players would have been a lot more interesting if YOU LIKE OR NOT

Carol, how old are you? i am genuinely curious. Anyway Fed played Sasha in the final, are you saying he is no good? weak opponent? come on, everyone knows the size of his game and serve....he fired 73% first serves in, and only won about half, which is truly amazing because of how good his first serve is. When was the last time you see a server who got in 73% first serves on grass, as big as Sasha's, and bagged only half? it can only mean that the opponent returned unbelievable, and if for Fed to be that good on return, his weak part, just imagine the rest of his game that day.

Anyone who thinks Sasha was easy meat on grass, needs to check the head.
 

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Carol, how old are you? i am genuinely curious. Anyway Fed played Sasha in the final, are you saying he is no good? weak opponent? come on, everyone knows the size of his game and serve....he fired 73% first serves in, and only won about half, which is truly amazing because of how good his first serve is. When was the last time you see a server who got in 73% first serves on grass, as big as Sasha's, and bagged only half? it can only mean that the opponent returned unbelievable, and if for Fed to be that good on return, his weak part, just imagine the rest of his game that day.

Anyone who thinks Sasha was easy meat on grass, needs to check the head.
You are kidding me too. Anyone who thinks that Sasha was a dificult meat on grass is the one that needs to check his head. Come on and you say that you are different to whom? how old am I? enough age to understand enough about this sport and to see very clearly that you like to use verbal contest for the shake of your idol and many times going too far as some Roger's fans like to go, too much fever and hatred. You don't discuss, you bite!
 

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You are kidding me too. Anyone who thinks that Sasha was a dificult meat on grass is the one that needs to check his head. Come on and you say that you are different to whom? how old am I? enough age to understand enough about this sport and to see very clearly that you like to use verbal contest for the shake of your idol and many times going too far as some Roger's fans like to go, too much fever and hatred. You don't discuss, you bite!

i am nice to kids, but don't you ever wonder why almost everyone here kicked your butt at one time or another? even your fellow Nadal fan, i mean.

and how much is understand 'enough' about this sport? i didn't hear real experts say that, only you. You must have super tennis credentials......confirm?

(Sasha won Halle last year beating Fed, and again made final. There are so few grass events, he'd be considered top 5 performer on grass so far this year. Easy meat? :facepalm:)
 

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i am nice to kids, but don't you ever wonder why almost everyone here kicked your butt at one time or another? even your fellow Nadal fan, i mean.

and how much is understand 'enough' about this sport? i didn't hear real experts say that, only you. You must have super tennis credentials......confirm?

(Sasha won Halle last year beating Fed, and again made final. There are so few grass events, he'd be considered top 5 performer on grass so far this year. Easy meat? :facepalm:)
The only ones who like to kick my butt is the posters like you LOL, the posters that like to read what they like and not the reality. And about Sasha, he still has to learn a lot starting with his body language and he played AWFUL that final, a big gift for your dear idol
 

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The only ones who like to kick my butt is the posters like you LOL, the posters that like to read what they like and not the reality. And about Sasha, he still has to learn a lot starting with his body language and he played AWFUL that final, a big gift for your dear idol

your grade 7 teacher kicked your butt no?:laugh:
 

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Are you battling a troll..I am convinced it was either GSM or El Dude that has awaken these cell of trolls ..
Is "Ricardo" one or the other one? If they are what a idiots and cowards hidden behind a computer LOL LOL LOL
 

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The only ones who like to kick my butt is the posters like you LOL, the posters that like to read what they like and not the reality. And about Sasha, he still has to learn a lot starting with his body language and he played AWFUL that final, a big gift for your dear idol

How many times does he have to tell you he's not even a Federer fan for it to sink in?

It's easy to kick your butt when you post such idiotic nonsense like yesterday. I'd like to think even your fellow Wafanuts would cringe when you said Lopez would've taken Roger yesterday. The sad part is I think you actually believe that
 

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How many times does he have to tell you he's not even a Federer fan for it to sink in?

It's easy to kick your butt when you post such idiotic nonsense like yesterday. I'd like to think even your fellow Wafanuts would cringe when you said Lopez would've taken Roger yesterday. The sad part is I think you actually believe that
Ay ay ay ay, how much you have been hurted because I said that Feli could have taken Roger or giving him a tough match. Who really has kicked the butt to whom? :lol3:. Hey, if there are more Wogernuts around here it doesn't mean anything to me because the only thing you know to do well is to kick your own butts and .....:shitstorm:
 

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How many times does he have to tell you he's not even a Federer fan for it to sink in?

It's easy to kick your butt when you post such idiotic nonsense like yesterday. I'd like to think even your fellow Wafanuts would cringe when you said Lopez would've taken Roger yesterday. The sad part is I think you actually believe that

Ay ay ay ay, how much you have been hurted because I said that Feli could have taken Roger or giving him a tough match. Who really has kicked the butt to whom? :lol3:. Hey, if there are more Wogernuts around here it doesn't mean anything to me because the only thing you know to do well is to kick your own butts and .....:shitstorm:

This is just too funny. Have you ever stopped and wondered why you always say the people who play Rafa were amazing and everyone who plays Roger and Novak were awful. Ya think that may be a little too biased and borderline delusional?

If I said something similarly stupid like Dimitrov or Goffin would have beaten Rafa in the RG final I'm sure I'd be crucified for it.
 

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This is just too funny. Have you ever stopped and wondered why you always say the people who play Rafa were amazing and everyone who plays Roger and Novak were awful. Ya think that may be a little too biased and borderline delusional?

If I said something similarly stupid like Dimitrov or Goffin would have beaten Rafa in the RG final I'm sure I'd be crucified for it.
Every single player has a good and not so good wins . I mean sometimes his opponent has not played so well or sometimes was cluess because the winner has played excellent. Yesterday Zverev played mediocre showing that he has stilll a looooong way to be a great player if one day he could be
 

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My days of being involved in threads like this are essentially over, but I'll interject here.

I can accept that Zverev didn't bring out his best yesterday, but that was largely due to Roger's play. He didn't allow Zverev to get into any rhythm, moving him around all over the place. One sign that this was the case, is the fact that throughout Zverev's first serve percentage was more than solid, but he was simply helpless.

Where I thought I had to get involved was... Feliciano Lopez beating Roger yesterday?? Can I ask the Rafa fans involved in this thread... well... apart from you know who... Does anyone else really believe that? I mean... seriously?
 

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My days of being involved in threads like this are essentially over, but I'll interject here.

I can accept that Zverev didn't bring out his best yesterday, but that was largely due to Roger's play. He didn't allow Zverev to get into any rhythm, moving him around all over the place. One sign that this was the case, is the fact that throughout Zverev's first serve percentage was more than solid, but he was simply helpless.

Where I thought I had to get involved was... Feliciano Lopez beating Roger yesterday?? Can I ask the Rafa fans involved in this thread... well... apart from you know who... Does anyone else really believe that? I mean... seriously?
When I watched Nadal take apart Thiem at the FO (I actually thought that Thiem could make an impact) I didn't once think that Thiem had a bad day...Just got schooled. The same can be said by Fed over Zverev yesterday. The only difference was the surface...LoL