Gerry Weber Open, Halle, Germany, ATP 500

[Moxie]

nobody disputes that, i just can't agree how Rafa fans (a bunch of you vs front) can say that Rafa was all lethargic while Fed was all fresh.......i think you only see what you want to see.

would you agree with me if i propose to you that Rafa will be fresh as daisy in 2022 AO final (even though given two days rest after 5 setter semi)?

If you agree that Rafa was hampered by one day less of rest and could have used the extra day that Roger had, I'm contented.

 

[the AntiPusher]

again wrong as usual. Two weeks for Rafa to get used to, isn't the answer. Fed had over 20 years to get used to clay and he can't solve the slow high bounce problem with his bh. This is where you are totally wrong, when you are 3-1 up you don't change nothing......you keep going with what got you there which is what Rafa did. One should applaud that Fed took the high risk approach and made it work, as he didn't use to in previous matches.

I am sure you are the revisionist kind of person, that if Rafa all of a sudden decided to hit the lines being 3-1 up and missed to hand back the break, you would say that he was silly to change a winning game.

i know people like you.

So you up 3-1 Fed runs off 3 straight games and you say stick with what got you there..thats doesn't make any sense. If that's the case Federer was up 2-1 in sets ..lost the 4set 3-6.. Fed took an extremely extended medical massage timeout and was still down 1-3.. why change at that point..why not keep on with the same tactics that got you the previous 2-1 advantage according to your tennis philosophy..

I know people like you..bottom feeders who purposely go boards like this to infect others with their venomous puss of hatred to its seems like some form of rational thinking. I not one of those posters who will go down that rabbit hole with you..I would suggest that you move on or find some other void in a black hole of cyberspace that accepts you for what you are. See I express how insignificant you are without name calling or focusing of your inadequate skills as a human being.

 

[DarthFed]

So I guess you agree that Rafa was not so fresh for the final, and could have used the extra day that Roger had.

Love the excuses yet Fed and his awful play for most of 2008 has nothing to do with mono and the lost training he had as a result. Rafa looked a little sluggish the first set and that was it. Definitely no fatigue issues after that set.

 

[DarthFed]

Sascha is still with pampers, he seems to have a long way to learn, like someone has told me today there are not yet young players that we can say: " wow, look that young player, he is brilliant " and maybe we couldn't say it who knows until when. To compare him with Stan is totally ridiculous and comparing RG to Halle is even more ridiculous

I wasn't comparing him with Stan, I was comparing the situation of them both being outclassed and looking poor as a result. But then you expect to be taken seriously when you spout garbage like Lopez would've beat Federer today or any day for that matter.

 

[Carol]

I wasn't comparing him with Stan, I was comparing the situation of them both being outclassed and looking poor as a result. But then you expect to be taken seriously when you spout garbage like Lopez would've beat Federer today or any day for that matter.

If Feli wouldn't have won at least the match would have been more tied. And I don't spout garbage like you usually do, I've just watched how each one has played I wouldn't have been surprised if Feli would have won.

 

[Moxie]

Love the excuses yet Fed and his awful play for most of 2008 has nothing to do with mono and the lost training he had as a result. Rafa looked a little sluggish the first set and that was it. Definitely no fatigue issues after that set.

I actually love the chutzpah that you can claim such a long drag on Federer for this mono that never actually kept him from a tournament, yet you find it an "excuse" that Rafa had one day less rest before the AO final, which was actually a direct hindrance to his preparation for that final.

 

[Ricardo]

If you agree that Rafa was hampered by one day less of rest and could have used the extra day that Roger had, I'm contented.

contented woman....so pleasant to think about , and so much smarter than the anti-pus who keeps regurgitating the same banana peel i threw at him and now he made a mess of it by farting out the gas so unbearable....

clearly he hasn't got the stomach and what's required between the ears, question is if i should tear him a new one or else

(btw the scheduling difference can apply to anyone at other events too so wasn't just for Rafa)

 

[Ricardo]

I actually love the chutzpah that you can claim such a long drag on Federer for this mono that never actually kept him from a tournament, yet you find it an "excuse" that Rafa had one day less rest before the AO final, which was actually a direct hindrance to his preparation for that final.

Rafa's AO scheduling was a hindrance for him, but so was Fed's mono which was actually doctor certified. I don't think it needs to be as bad as making him withdrawal, to qualify as such.

 

[the AntiPusher]

I will remember GSM is aligned with Eduardo or what that troll name is..

 

[Carol]

I will remember GSM is aligned with Eduardo or what that troll name is..

They make me laugh sometimes and remember what I told you, as better Rafa plays as more we read more and more s*^t

 

[the AntiPusher]

They make me laugh sometimes and remember what I told you, as better Rafa plays as more we read more and s*^t

Yeah someone sicked that troll on me today, I assuming it was GSM..I will remember that for future reference.

 

[britbox]

Final Highlights:



Federer Interview:

 

[britbox]

Based on Federer's interview, doesn't sound like he threw Haas any bones at Stuttgart. Expecting one of the favourites to go all the way at Wimbledon and surprises in the first week.

 

[Front242]

Federer was too afraid to play on clay and he admitted he can't beat Rafa at RG especially Now. I am not going to make any comments in regards to Novak and Andy because they are clearly not at the top of their games. Again, there's no shame to loose to Rafa, just admit you were wrong and move on..

Admit I was wrong about what exactly? I'm well aware Andy and Novak aren't playing their best. What I said was they would have won more games in the final than Stan, who won a whopping 6 games. No one here except you and other Nadal would disagree either. Andy and Novak both serve much better than Stan on average so that in itself wins more than 6 games in 3 sets.

 

[DarthFed]

I actually love the chutzpah that you can claim such a long drag on Federer for this mono that never actually kept him from a tournament, yet you find it an "excuse" that Rafa had one day less rest before the AO final, which was actually a direct hindrance to his preparation for that final.

Well not everyone is willing to withdraw from a major with an upset stomach 2 weeks in advance like Rafa is. Fed played AO, was clearly off, and got decked in the semis. His usual training blocks were altered, and confidence was shaken as he lost to guys he normally beat in his sleep. You see so much "fatigue" in the AO match yet Roger apparently was not bad at all the first 2 sets of Wimbledon that year, how convenient . I'm not saying he was tired or suffering from fatigue but he looked extremely sluggish and weak like he did much of that year.

Nadal had normal time to recover, I don't see how the long semi was a direct hindrance on his preparation. Did he not practice the day after? And also there is the part that he could have done himself a favor and dumped Dimitrov without going a very long and physical 5 sets.

 

[Front242]

"That AO final should have been done in 3 sets"

Explain this madness ,

I recall that RAFA won set 2 & set 4 plus had a 3-1 lead in the 5th

Okay Front enlighten us all with you hypothesis or hypothetical theories

Here's your enlightenment: the only reason Nadal won sets 2 and 4 was down to Roger's nerves and errors. And to anyone who watched it, that was clear as day.

 

[Front242]

It's not really rehashing but Front stubbornly trying to discredit a Nadal accomplishments. I have stated numerous of times Fed and Luby outfoxed and executed their strategies over Rafa, Toni and Carlos at AO17. If you think Front will do the same, then one hasn't been paying attention.

See that again shows you don't read things properly. When did I ever say Nadal didn't play great at RG? I merely said Stan and Thiem were poor. It can be both you know. Same with Federer and Zverev yesterday.

 

[DarthFed]

If Feli wouldn't have won at least the match would have been more tied. And I don't spout garbage like you usually do, I've just watched how each one has played I wouldn't have been surprised if Feli would have won.

Yes you saw both matches and you only saw what you wanted to see of course. And the result is Feli frickin Lopez is apparently better on grass than Federer in top form. Again I repeat no one will take you seriously with such clownish statements. I know you have a hard-on for all the Spaniards so I'm guessing the next thing you'll say is that RBA and Ferrer would have beaten Fed today too.

 

[Front242]

it shouldn't matter and becomes needless speculation, all we know none of them would've been much of a chance against Nadal.

Absolutely and I never said any of them would have won but merely that they would have won more than the 6 games Stan won. The problem is these numbnuts Nadal fans can't read any posts properly.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Here's your enlightenment: the only reason Nadal won sets 2 and 4 was down to Roger's nerves and errors. And to anyone who watched it, that was clear as day.

This has got to be the lamest excuse EVER. This has so many legs to it I can't began to crucify you for the simplicity of what you posted.