Federer's Schedule 2018

[GameSetAndMath]

Some people say playing in RG will help him accumulate pts (in quest for YE #1). Suppose he plays RG and reaches QF and loses to a dirt baller there, then he gets 360 points. He would have played five 5 set matches with lot of rallies.

Instead, if he plays Dubai, he can easily win it considering the depleted field and that would fetch him 500 points, much more than the 360 that he gets by reaching QF at RG. Further, he would only needs to play five 3 set matches. Further, with the fast courts, each match could potentially be finished under an hour. Finally, there is no need to change the ultra-aggressive style of play.

Only downside to Dubai might be that he will not be fresh for IW and M which are more important tourneys than Dubai.

 

[10isfan]

Fed has to be in CA to play the exo on Monday. The Dubai final is on Saturday. I doubt he’ll want to cram his schedule like that although I would love to see him get 500 points at Dubai to help him get YE number 1.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Fed has to be in CA to play the exo on Monday. The Dubai final is on Saturday. I doubt he’ll want to cram his schedule like that although I would love to see him get 500 points at Dubai to help him get YE number 1.

Fed flies in his private jet. The final will be in daytime/early afternoon and so Fed can easily reach by sunday. Besides Monday's match is an XO and so he does not have to be in full form.

 

[10isfan]

I know all that but still think he won’t play Dubai. When must he decide?

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I know all that but still think he won’t play Dubai. When must he decide?

I too don't think he will play Dubai. Draw is on Saturday. So, the organizers will wait patiently until then.

 

[Moxie]

With his elegant game he'd be a good Bond. I'm sure we could find a nice brute of a villain for Rafa to play.

Foamy, not stirred.

 

[Moxie]

I should be more clear, he's not winning big clay titles playing like that IMO. And the only reason he should play is if he thinks he has a solid shot at winning RG. If it's a single match then yes he of course can win but I find it difficult to picture him winning 7 best of 5 matches at RG playing this aggressively. Points are longer and the ball bounces much higher, it's a whole different ball game. With that said with how bad the field is I can see him being very tempted to give it a go and clearly the style he's playing and having a big win streak does give him a better chance vs Nadal than he used to have. But I still say save it for Wimbledon. If he shows up strong there he is overwhelming favorite again and if history doesn't repeat itself he'd be a strong favorite at USO too. Also, not playing clay doesn't diminish his other wins, it just really diminishes his chances at being year end #1 as we saw last year when he badly outplayed Nadal the whole year aside from clay and USO.

He didn't badly out-play Nadal across the year. He just beat him. I thought you guys weren't whores for the H2H.

 

[Moxie]

Fed flies in his private jet. The final will be in daytime/early afternoon and so Fed can easily reach by sunday. Besides Monday's match is an XO and so he does not have to be in full form.

You seem to have no feel for jet-lag.

 

[DarthFed]

He didn't badly out-play Nadal across the year. He just beat him. I thought you guys weren't whores for the H2H.

They've competed in the same tournaments 9 times since the start of 2017 and Fed has done better in 8 of them. Nadal finished less than 1,000 points ahead despite having 4,680 points on clay. Need I continue?

 

[Busted]

He didn't badly out-play Nadal across the year. He just beat him. I thought you guys weren't whores for the H2H.

You don't call Nadal being 0-4 matches, not having a break game in their last 3 matches, having only 5 break points in their last three matches (4 of them in the same game in Miami!), having ZERO deuce games on Federer's serve in Shanghai - and being broken himself 9 times in those 3 matches - NOT being "badly out-played?" Alrighty then... Must be that "new math" that some of us over 40 don't get..

 

[Busted]

They've competed in the same tournaments 9 times since the start of 2017 and Fed has done better in 8 of them. Nadal finished less than 1,000 points ahead despite having 4,680 points on clay. Need I continue?

Please do. I'm still struggling with the "new math" thing...

 

[Moxie]

They've competed in the same tournaments 9 times since the start of 2017 and Fed has done better in 8 of them. Nadal finished less than 1,000 points ahead despite having 4,680 points on clay. Need I continue?

But Nadal won on points. Nadal has had the better of Roger across their career, on HCs for much of it, too. Short-term advantage. Either you want to make it about the H2H, or you don't.

 

[Busted]

But Nadal won on points. Nadal has had the better of Roger across their career, on HCs for much of it, too. Short-term advantage. Either you want to make it about the H2H, or you don't.

That doesn't negate the fact that Roger outplayed Nadal last year - and continues to do so thing year...which is why he's #1 despite spotting Nadal the entire clay season (5 events) plus 1 other tournament.

 

[Moxie]

You don't call Nadal being 0-4 matches, not having a break game in their last 3 matches, having only 5 break points in their last three matches (4 of them in the same game in Miami!), having ZERO deuce games on Federer's serve in Shanghai - and being broken himself 9 times in those 3 matches - NOT being "badly out-played?" Alrighty then... Must be that "new math" that some of us over 40 don't get..

You miss the point: I was talking about how Rafa was playing across the year and the field. Ironic from you and other Fed fans. Never want to talk about the H2H, and now you're all about it. Fine, I'm happy to. Roger comes out woefully across their careers. He won't catch up.

 

[Moxie]

Yeah, crickets. And cue a lot of whining about the clay.

 

[DarthFed]

But Nadal won on points. Nadal has had the better of Roger across their career, on HCs for much of it, too. Short-term advantage. Either you want to make it about the H2H, or you don't.

Now you're just being silly, I said Roger badly outplayed him aside from clay and the USO last year. That comes out to about 2.5 months out of the last 14. And no it isn't just the H2H in the last year. We are talking 6 big titles to 4 and a way way better winning %. But go ahead and keep arguing against the obvious.

 

[Busted]

You miss the point: I was talking about how Rafa was playing across the year and the field. Ironic from you and other Fed fans. Never want to talk about the H2H, and now you're all about it. Fine, I'm happy to. Roger comes out woefully across their careers. He won't catch up.

As Darth Fed said...across the Roger did better in 8 of the 9 tournaments they both played. Roger won 7 tournaments in 2017. Nadal won 6. Roger also had fewer losses than Nadal. Roger played fewer events but had a higher winning percentage. So how is that not outplaying Nadal "across the year and the field?"

As for the H2H...Roger doesn't seem to be too worried about the stain of it of his legacy, so why should I sweat it or have to justify why it doesn't negate his overall greatness over Nadal? That's for people like you to always bring up because that and clay dominance are the only things Nadal really has over Federer.

 

[DarthFed]

Yeah, crickets. And cue a lot of whining about the clay.

Crickets? What, we have to respond to Queen Foxie within 2 minutes. I'm not done ripping your BS by a long shot.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I agree with DF that it does not make sense to play RG to accumulate points. Roger should play RG, only to win it (he may not win it in the end, but his intention should be to win it and in his estimation he should stand a reasonable chance to do so as well).

 

[Moxie]

Crickets? What, we have to respond to Queen Foxie within 2 minutes. I'm not done ripping your BS by a long shot.

Nah, it's just that it's getting late. I was setting up my argument for tomorrow. :lulz2: