Fedalovic Wars

[Fiero425]

Nadal is 11-7 in slams vs Pushovic and 10-4 in slams vs Frauderer.

That's 21-11 total.

Unbilibable, no?

OMG, the desperation! I thought m/b I had gone back to the 1st page of the Thread it's such an antiquated take on what history will be looking at in the future! Was Djokovic "pushing" the ball against Alcaraz in the Olympic final! I saw Carlos stretching for balls totally unreachable! Is that your idea of pushing the ball? Novak has a losing record vs Roddick and Vesley! SO? What else ya got? After snatching OG, I'd think the Rafa-fans would pull back on "puffing out" their collective chests trying to find "something" to compare & celebrate! It's getting embarrassing DON'TCHA THINK? Djokovic has all the records owned w/ #'s unsurpassable! The 8 YE #1's alone immortalizes him, but add on the 7 YEC's, 24 Majors, a double Golden Master, a Nole-Slam, capped w/ an OGM, the debate is squashed, buried, & eviscerated!

 

[shawnbm]

Rafa is one of the greatest to ever play, as are Nole and Roger. I am just happy I was there to watch, just like I was when it was Connors-Borg and McEnroe (maybe Ivan the Terrible too).

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Rafa is one of the greatest to ever play, as are Nole and Roger. I am just happy I was there to watch, just like I was when it was Connors-Borg and McEnroe (maybe Ivan the Terrible too).

Hi Shawnbm

I second your post, I have been lucky to see Rafa play many times live at RG, when he won his first GS at RG I knew this was just the beginning, he is the Greatest Clay Courter, also watched him many times at my home tournament in Roma and a great 'competitor'
Since moving to Australia, I was live when he won his first AO title in 2009, the first Spanish man to win there, of course he went onto win the AO title after that . Rafa joins Federer and Novak in that 'greatest every to play the game of tennis' I have also been lucky to watch Federer and Novak live! we as tennis fans have been soo lucky to witness the 3 of them play over the years ,

 

[Fiero425]

Why's it American players can only make a short run t/b noticed, then can't win the simplest of matches against a WC? Big fail on Taylor Fritz!

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

Why's it American players can only make a short run t/b noticed, then can't win the simplest of matches against a WC? Big fail on Taylor Fritz!

Too many players in today's generation (outside of Sinner and Alcaraz) aren't built mentally tough, and are just unable to sustain great play for an extended period of time.

 

[britbox]

Looks like Djokovic won the war. Fascinating battles along the way.

 

[Shivashish Sarkar]

At this moment, Djokovic does seem like the best among the 3. It hurts to admit this but it's true.

 

[shawnbm]

He clearly is the most accomplished when you look at things statistically and longevity wise. He has broken almost all the records of significance and he did battling these two during most of their primes.

 

[Shivashish Sarkar]

Yes. And, he's better than ever before atm.

 

[Shivashish Sarkar]

But I feel there was very little to separate Djokovic and Nadal which can be emotionally disturbing for some fans. I can feel you.

 

[shawnbm]

^ Hard to say. 2023 when he went to all four majors and won three? Ditto for 2015--won three in 2011 and then there was the calendar year slam potential in 2021??? when he lost to Medvedev in New York City at the very end?

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Why's it American players can only make a short run t/b noticed, then can't win the simplest of matches against a WC? Big fail on Taylor Fritz!

This is on the wrong post it should have been on the ATP News Post this is the Fedalovic Post?

 

[Shivashish Sarkar]

^ Hard to say. 2023 when he went to all four majors and won three? Ditto for 2015--won three in 2011 and then there was the calendar year slam potential in 2021??? when he lost to Medvedev in New York City at the very end?

31-29.

It's not significant at all.

Hehe.

24-22 and 31-29.

 

[shawnbm]

24-22 over Roger and 31-29 over Rafa?

 

[El Dude]

It is sort of like a triathalon: each of the three has their own "event" (time/context/surface) where they stand above everyone else--including the other two--but overall, Novak wins the race.

It isn't only surface, but we can sort of simplify it this way:

Clay: Rafa, Novak, Roger
Grass: Roger, Novak, Rafa
Hards: Novak, Roger, Rafa

Now while Rafa is third in two of the surfaces, he makes up for it by being much further ahead in clay than the other two are on Grass and Hards (and really, Roger and Novak are very close on each).

Novak "wins the race" because he's 1 or 2 on all three.

 

[Front242]

It is sort of like a triathalon: each of the three has their own "event" (time/context/surface) where they stand above everyone else--including the other two--but overall, Novak wins the race.

It isn't only surface, but we can sort of simplify it this way:

Clay: Rafa, Novak, Roger
Grass: Roger, Novak, Rafa
Hards: Novak, Roger, Rafa

Now while Rafa is third in two of the surfaces, he makes up for it by being much further ahead in clay than the other two are on Grass and Hards (and really, Roger and Novak are very close on each).

Novak "wins the race" because he's 1 or 2 on all three.

Roger fast hards. Novak slow/medium. Fixed that there for you.

 

[Fiero425]

Roger fast hards. Novak slow/medium. Fixed that there for you.

Weak; very weak! Roger had an advantage early on fast HC! Later; esp. in 2018 when Nole annihilated Roger in the Cincy final completing his 1st Golden Masters! Djokovic also has multiple wins in Shanghai & Paris where the courts are lightning fast! The BIG 3 fans have got to give it up to Djokovic no matter the lame examples displayed trying to equate them! He won the war of attrition; doing it systematically & balanced! He won 12 majors early & 12 majors late! He took 3 of 4 of them twice early & late in his career! He amazed me by taking 2 more YEC's, an 8th YE #1, then finally an OGM closing in on 40 years old! Roger was the KING of 250's in comparison! Novak won BIG events to lead the way while Nadal's only close due to his prowess on clay!

 

[Shivashish Sarkar]

It is sort of like a triathalon: each of the three has their own "event" (time/context/surface) where they stand above everyone else--including the other two--but overall, Novak wins the race.

It isn't only surface, but we can sort of simplify it this way:

Clay: Rafa, Novak, Roger
Grass: Roger, Novak, Rafa
Hards: Novak, Roger, Rafa

Now while Rafa is third in two of the surfaces, he makes up for it by being much further ahead in clay than the other two are on Grass and Hards (and really, Roger and Novak are very close on each).

Novak "wins the race" because he's 1 or 2 on all three.

Tbh grass belongs to Novak imho.

 

[Shivashish Sarkar]

If not Novak grass belongs to Pete Sampras. Hehe.

 

[Shivashish Sarkar]

The way I see it is:

no. 1 Novak
no. 2 Rafa
no. 3 Federer