Fedal 34

[Carol]

Nothing like ambiguous comments and double standards. Tell me how it's possible for a win to show signs of progress when you previously said this:

"If Rafa can't beat Roger, it would be more worrying a loss than the triple-whammy to Triple-F, especially when we now see evidence of a slight incline in Rafa's fortunes... "

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4379&pid=215338#pid215338

And this:

"To lose to an octogenarian, albeit one who's an historic anomaly in his conditioning, is not a sign of the Incline. Factor in that Federer has now played two three set matches. Oh, and also, who the heck is Federer when it comes to matches with Nadal. Exactly.
This would be a poor result for Nadal, a sign that the incline only goes up against the makeweights... "
:cover How embarrassing
http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4379&pid=215363#pid215363

A win would obviously show progress, after defeats to FFS, Tsonga, and just about everybody else in tennis. You have seen his results this year, right? He's lost easily to both Murray and Djoker. He lost in straights to Stan in Rome, but dispatched Stan handy in Shanghai. A victory over Federer would be an obvious and concrete sign of progress.
By the way, I predicted him to win, and I expect him to. I never expect Rafa to lose to Federer. If he does lose, it's just simply more evidence that although he's on an incline, he hasn't yet gotten to where he's going to...

Ah ok I get it. So a win over Federer is now a sign of progress whereas earlier today it was labelled poor if he loses and more worrying than losing to Fognini?! I guess things change drastically in a few hours! And it means nothing if he loses tomorrow seeing as it only matters if he wins, incline apparently if he does as you expect him to always beat Federer but if he happens to lose it means he's not improved enough. But yet he doesn't need to improve at all since you always expect him to beat Federer. At
least I'm clear now anyway even if 99.99% of the posters weren't.

99.99% of the posters are Roger/Novak fans :snicker

 

[Front242]

Nah, there are loads of Nadal fans here.

 

[Fiero425]

Nah, there are loads of Nadal fans here.

"Talk" tennis has tons of Nole fans and laud him like they used to do for Roger! It's almost a site of tribute; picked up so many stats and records that can be saved to my blog! It's not like I think Novak's the GOAT, but "this is his time!" I don't mind him being #1 unlike Nadal who's game and "act" I can't stand! :nono :angel: :dodgy: :cover

 

[Kieran]

Nothing like ambiguous comments and double standards. Tell me how it's possible for a win to show signs of progress when you previously said this:

"If Rafa can't beat Roger, it would be more worrying a loss than the triple-whammy to Triple-F, especially when we now see evidence of a slight incline in Rafa's fortunes... "

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4379&pid=215338#pid215338

And this:

"To lose to an octogenarian, albeit one who's an historic anomaly in his conditioning, is not a sign of the Incline. Factor in that Federer has now played two three set matches. Oh, and also, who the heck is Federer when it comes to matches with Nadal. Exactly.

This would be a poor result for Nadal, a sign that the incline only goes up against the makeweights... "
:cover How embarrassing
http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4379&pid=215363#pid215363

A win would obviously show progress, after defeats to FFS, Tsonga, and just about everybody else in tennis. You have seen his results this year, right? He's lost easily to both Murray and Djoker. He lost in straights to Stan in Rome, but dispatched Stan handy in Shanghai. A victory over Federer would be an obvious and concrete sign of progress.

By the way, I predicted him to win, and I expect him to. I never expect Rafa to lose to Federer. If he does lose, it's just simply more evidence that although he's on an incline, he hasn't yet gotten to where he's going to...

Ah ok I get it. So a win over Federer is now a sign of progress whereas earlier today it was labelled poor if he loses and more worrying than losing to Fognini?! I guess things change drastically in a few hours! And it means nothing if he loses tomorrow seeing as it only matters if he wins, incline apparently if he does as you expect him to always beat Federer but if he happens to lose it means he's not improved enough. But yet he doesn't need to improve at all since you always expect him to beat Federer. At least I'm clear now anyway even if 99.99% of the posters weren't.

Good! Now bring it on.

 

[Kirijax]

 

[Kieran]

Yeah, good post. The Fedal rivalry has been the special one of this era, no disrespect to Novak who has a great rivalry with both players. Fedal has more crunch, and iconography. More contrasts. It's coming to an end, and as tented said, this is the first match between them taking place in the lowest levels of tennis tournaments since 2004? It's a sign of the times! The final Sampras-Agassi match was a US Open final, and likewise for Borg-McEnroe. It'd be too much to hope for that Fedal bow out the same way...

 

[Front242]

The most watchable though for most would be Federer v Djokovic.

 

[Kieran]

The most watchable though for most would be Federer v Djokovic.

Of course. Less chance of you being disappointed

 

[kro2488]

This has always been something special, this might be the last time we see this! We need to really enjoy it! I hope in the future we get to see them in a grand slam final but who knows if that will happen, but even this is great.

 

[Front242]

The most watchable though for most would be Federer v Djokovic.

Of course. Less chance of you being disappointed

Well mostly 'cos I get to watch two players who hit the ball with great finesse, both attacking and not scrambling like their lives depended on it and their matches don't feature any butt picking, stalling, gamesmanship, etc. Hopefully if Roger gets to serve for the match here, instead of paying Rafa back for that despicable toilet break he took before Roger served for their Indian Wells 2012 semi, he'll just walk over to Rafa's side of the net and p1$$ all over the court :snicker

 

[Kieran]

Fricking fromsport links are all displaying virus warning...

 

[tented]

Fricking fromsport links are all displaying virus warning...

Try this:

http://live.realstreamunited.com/streaming/free-live-video-streaming-federer-nadal-atp-basel-tennis-atp-171151.html

 

[Kieran]

Hopefully if Roger gets to serve for the match here, instead of paying Rafa back for that despicable toilet break he took before Roger served for their Indian Wells 2012 semi, he'll just walk over to Rafa's side of the net and p1$$ all over the court :snicker

As the brave Spartans once said to the enemy, IF...

 

[Kieran]

Fricking fromsport links are all displaying virus warning...

Try this:

http://live.realstreamunited.com/streaming/free-live-video-streaming-federer-nadal-atp-basel-tennis-atp-171151.html

Cheers bro!

 

[tented]

Mystery solved: Rafa won the coin toss, and elected to serve.

 

[Kieran]

Mystery solved: Rafa won the coin toss, and elected to serve.

Can only assume he's changed it to become more aggressive...

 

[tented]

Mystery solved: Rafa won the coin toss, and elected to serve.

Can only assume he's changed it to become more aggressive...

Exactly. I think it also helps psychologically when he's serving to stay in sets/matches. How many times has he been broken in the last year or two when serving at 4-5 or 5-6?

 

[Kieran]

No links work for me. Sunny day in the garden beckons... :cry

 

[kro2488]

Is Edberg there?

 

[Front242]

4 SABRS in a row please