Early French Open Ruminations

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the AntiPusher said:
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We well know most have no chance, but I was thinking of Roger wearing himself out playing best of 5 sets against these youngster in the early rounds! They aren't just going to roll over for him like in the past! If he's just extending his major participation, he's wasting a space in the draw! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

Lately your anti Federer posts are getting more and more annoying. People never rolled over for him, he was just simply brilliant in his prime. And he's still beating players now at nearly 35 because he's still very good. No one is rolling over for him now and no one was rolling over for him then. He's not just extending his major participation and I doubt any fan of tennis on the whole planet would ever claim Roger Federer is wasting a space in the draw unless maybe you think they'd prefer to see some donkey qualifier than him :s What makes this more annoying is you were actually a fan of Federer before but the slagging he gets from you these days would make anyone wonder if you ever supported him.

Stranger things have happened than 2 of the favourites exhausting each other in slams and opening up the whole draw. We just saw it happen in Rome with Murray, and while Novak is definitely fit enough to withstand a few tough 3 setters, there's also the mental aspect of a few tough matches en route to a final. Let's say Novak beats Rafa and Stan takes out Murray and then has a subpar next match, is Roger then wasting a space in the draw for playing ? No, he's not. Plus, he needs the practice as he's barely played in months.

I see "Doc" Front still thinks that Fed only has a temporary back problem..No No .. Front.. if his back could hold up for two matches in Rome last week in a best of 3 sets, how is Roger gonna get that back to hold up for two weeks in a best of 5 set format against guys that might be 10 years plus his junior.. Even Federer can't defeat Father Time..

Fedal fans see what they want to see! It's always been pathetic and it'll continue to be that way! :puzzled :nono :cover
 

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Fiero425 said:
the AntiPusher said:
Front242 said:
Lately your anti Federer posts are getting more and more annoying. People never rolled over for him, he was just simply brilliant in his prime. And he's still beating players now at nearly 35 because he's still very good. No one is rolling over for him now and no one was rolling over for him then. He's not just extending his major participation and I doubt any fan of tennis on the whole planet would ever claim Roger Federer is wasting a space in the draw unless maybe you think they'd prefer to see some donkey qualifier than him :s What makes this more annoying is you were actually a fan of Federer before but the slagging he gets from you these days would make anyone wonder if you ever supported him.

Stranger things have happened than 2 of the favourites exhausting each other in slams and opening up the whole draw. We just saw it happen in Rome with Murray, and while Novak is definitely fit enough to withstand a few tough 3 setters, there's also the mental aspect of a few tough matches en route to a final. Let's say Novak beats Rafa and Stan takes out Murray and then has a subpar next match, is Roger then wasting a space in the draw for playing ? No, he's not. Plus, he needs the practice as he's barely played in months.

I see "Doc" Front still thinks that Fed only has a temporary back problem..No No .. Front.. if his back could hold up for two matches in Rome last week in a best of 3 sets, how is Roger gonna get that back to hold up for two weeks in a best of 5 set format against guys that might be 10 years plus his junior.. Even Federer can't defeat Father Time..

Fedal fans see what they want to see! It's always been pathetic and it'll continue to be that way! :puzzled :nono :cover

So you no longer wanted to be pathetic and ditched Federer to become a Djokovic fan. Makes sense.
 

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Front242 said:
Was Nadal injured when Thiem beat him this year? No. I expected a high probability of Federer losing to Thiem as his baseline game is rock solid and he hits the ball extremely hard. Both of those point strongly at him being a tough opponent. Bear in mind he had 14 break points in the last match he played against Novak as well so it was a lot closer than the score indicated.

Rafa got beat and out played by Thiem.. no doubt no execues.. However.. Federer wasnt at full strength when he played Thiem last week.. However.. if you insist that we are talking apples to apples then so be it.. you know everything it seems
 

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the AntiPusher said:
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Was Nadal injured when Thiem beat him this year? No. I expected a high probability of Federer losing to Thiem as his baseline game is rock solid and he hits the ball extremely hard. Both of those point strongly at him being a tough opponent. Bear in mind he had 14 break points in the last match he played against Novak as well so it was a lot closer than the score indicated.

Rafa got beat and out played by Thiem.. no doubt no excues.. However.. Federer wasnt at full strength when he played Thiem last week.. However.. if you insist that we are talking apples to apples then so be it.. you know everything it seems

I never said I know everything, I said he has a week to recover. There's a big difference.
 

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Front242 said:
Was Nadal injured when Thiem beat him this year? No. I expected a high probability of Federer losing to Thiem as his baseline game is rock solid and he hits the ball extremely hard. Both of those point strongly at him being a tough opponent. Bear in mind he had 14 break points in the last match he played against Novak as well so it was a lot closer than the score indicated.

Nope, he just played awful or now you are going to say that he was playing his real game?
When is going to be the day that you talk about Rafa with some respect same like you like that everybody talk about Federer because if someone says something different to your opinion then you call him 'anti' and 'annoying'? look at you in the mirror first and then say something.....:(
 

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I'ld be delighted to see Andy win RG, he's a serious contender after his Roma's triumph
 

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Sundaymorningguy said:
Only Roger knows his body, he will play if he is up to it, and he should play to get the match play. I don't understand why people are giving Roger a hard time about this. You would think that the concept of returning from injury was a foreign concept to some on here. You have to comeback at some point if you are healthy and want to play. Roger knows he isn't going to win here, but hey he can join the other 126 people who aren't going to win it either.

Its Official . A Swiss player withdrawns from the French Open because of bad back

http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/15573047/belinda-bencic-withdraws-french-open-back-injury
 

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the AntiPusher said:
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Only Roger knows his body, he will play if he is up to it, and he should play to get the match play. I don't understand why people are giving Roger a hard time about this. You would think that the concept of returning from injury was a foreign concept to some on here. You have to comeback at some point if you are healthy and want to play. Roger knows he isn't going to win here, but hey he can join the other 126 people who aren't going to win it either.

Its Official . A Swiss player withdrawns from the French Open because of bad back

http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/15573047/belinda-bencic-withdraws-french-open-back-injury

Good one! :laydownlaughing
 

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Riotbeard said:
the AntiPusher said:
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Only Roger knows his body, he will play if he is up to it, and he should play to get the match play. I don't understand why people are giving Roger a hard time about this. You would think that the concept of returning from injury was a foreign concept to some on here. You have to comeback at some point if you are healthy and want to play. Roger knows he isn't going to win here, but hey he can join the other 126 people who aren't going to win it either.

Its Official . A Swiss player withdrawns from the French Open because of bad back

http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/15573047/belinda-bencic-withdraws-french-open-back-injury

Good one! :laydownlaughing
I couldnt resist:laydownlaughing
 

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Front242 said:
Lately your anti Federer posts are getting more and more annoying. People never rolled over for him, he was just simply brilliant in his prime.

Djokovic is winning so much lately because he is just simply brilliant.
 

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Obsi said:
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Lately your anti Federer posts are getting more and more annoying. People never rolled over for him, he was just simply brilliant in his prime.

Djokovic is winning so much lately because he is just simply brilliant.

If I feel like saying it, the rest of the tour is still "rolling over" for the "Big 4!" If someone doesn't like it; :ras: :rolleyes:
 

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Obsi said:
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Lately your anti Federer posts are getting more and more annoying. People never rolled over for him, he was just simply brilliant in his prime.

Djokovic is winning so much lately because he is just simply brilliant.

He's been far from simply brilliant the past few months. Enough to win but not as good as much of last year. Doubt anyone would disagree there.
 

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Front242 said:
Obsi said:
Front242 said:
Lately your anti Federer posts are getting more and more annoying. People never rolled over for him, he was just simply brilliant in his prime.

Djokovic is winning so much lately because he is just simply brilliant.

He's been far from simply brilliant the past few months. Enough to win but not as good as much of last year. Doubt anyone would disagree there.
I wouldnt disagree however just as last year, others around djoker are getting better at the most important time just like Stan did last year.
 

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Front242 said:
Obsi said:
Front242 said:
Lately your anti Federer posts are getting more and more annoying. People never rolled over for him, he was just simply brilliant in his prime.

Djokovic is winning so much lately because he is just simply brilliant.

He's been far from simply brilliant the past few months. Enough to win but not as good as much of last year. Doubt anyone would disagree there.

By "lately" I meant the last 19 months.
 

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Front242 said:
Fiero425 said:
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Only Roger knows his body, he will play if he is up to it, and he should play to get the match play. I don't understand why people are giving Roger a hard time about this. You would think that the concept of returning from injury was a foreign concept to some on here. You have to comeback at some point if you are healthy and want to play. Roger knows he isn't going to win here, but hey he can join the other 126 people who aren't going to win it either.

We well know most have no chance, but I was thinking of Roger wearing himself out playing best of 5 sets against these youngster in the early rounds! They aren't just going to roll over for him like in the past! If he's just extending his major participation, he's wasting a space in the draw! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

Lately your anti Federer posts are getting more and more annoying. People never rolled over for him, he was just simply brilliant in his prime. And he's still beating players now at nearly 35 because he's still very good. No one is rolling over for him now and no one was rolling over for him then. He's not just extending his major participation and I doubt any fan of tennis on the whole planet would ever claim Roger Federer is wasting a space in the draw unless maybe you think they'd prefer to see some donkey qualifier than him :s What makes this more annoying is you were actually a fan of Federer before but the slagging he gets from you these days would make anyone wonder if you ever supported him

Well, if I remember well Nadal rolled over him many times when he was just simple brilliant in his prime and that's why his fans dislike him so much :snicker
 

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Obsi said:
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Djokovic is winning so much lately because he is just simply brilliant.

He's been far from simply brilliant the past few months. Enough to win but not as good as much of last year. Doubt anyone would disagree there.

By "lately" I meant the last 19 months.

He was simply brilliant in the Doha final but has been well below that level the rest of the year. He was much better in 2011 than now and so was the competition.
 

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Carol35 said:
Front242 said:
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We well know most have no chance, but I was thinking of Roger wearing himself out playing best of 5 sets against these youngster in the early rounds! They aren't just going to roll over for him like in the past! If he's just extending his major participation, he's wasting a space in the draw! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

Lately your anti Federer posts are getting more and more annoying. People never rolled over for him, he was just simply brilliant in his prime. And he's still beating players now at nearly 35 because he's still very good. No one is rolling over for him now and no one was rolling over for him then. He's not just extending his major participation and I doubt any fan of tennis on the whole planet would ever claim Roger Federer is wasting a space in the draw unless maybe you think they'd prefer to see some donkey qualifier than him :s What makes this more annoying is you were actually a fan of Federer before but the slagging he gets from you these days would make anyone wonder if you ever supported him

Well, if I remember well Nadal rolled over him many times when he was just simple brilliant in his prime and that's why his fans dislike him so much :snicker

That's 100% NOT why he is disliked by so many.
 

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Falla, Berrer and Chiudienelli are out in 1st round of quals.

Brown, Brands, Stakhovsky, Darcis, Rublev, Stepanek and Tiafoe won their opening matches.

1st round is over. Two more wins to qualify.
 

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Latest odds after the market has settled following Rome finals.

1. Novak 5/6
2. Rafa 4
3. Andy 6
4. Stan 17
5. Kei 25
6. Roger, Thiem 40
7. Monfils 66
8. Kyrgios 80
9. Berdych, Tsonga 100
10. Raonic 120
11. Ferrer 150

Basically, Andy's odds improved from 8 to 6. Fed's decreased from 33 to 40. Ferrer's decreased from 100 to 150.