Early AO 2019 thread

Are you able not to turn this thread into a Fedal war?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 9 90.0%
  • No, I love him so much, I can't, oh, I can...oooohh I am crying right now, fuck you damn bastards!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, I have a one track mind

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, my goal in life is to turn everything in to a Fedal war

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • No, I am one of them and I hate that motha focka

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, I like to to be a pain in the ass and repeat the same thing 239487342 times

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, I like to be added to "ignore" lists

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, because he had mono

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, because he had bad knees

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maybe. I am still deciding if I am retarded or not.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Khachanov will be a man to watch at this AO. Today, there was an article about him at the AO web site. . Everybody knows he had many big wins. More importantly, he rarely loses matches that he is supposed to win. He had lost only four matches to lower ranked players in the whole year.

I think Tsitsipas, Khachanov and Coric will be the most interesting next gen players to watch in 2019 AO.
 
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I love you sweet beautiful Rafa, can't wait for the new season! :ptennis:
 

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according to l'Equipe, Sir Andy's hip's still a little bit painful....not a good news, I guess he could be done for tennis like Nalby and Kuerten were after a hip surgery
 

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according to l'Equipe, Sir Andy's hip's still a little bit painful....not a good news, I guess he could be done for tennis like Nalby and Kuerten were after a hip surgery

I'm not surprised in the least! It was asinine to go to that style of just being a retriever when he had a more offensive game early on! For the last few years while getting older, he allowed no names and never-weres to run his arse ragged! The epitome of what I'm talking about happened in his only chance to win the FO in '16! He was taken to the limit again and again, needing to come back from 2 sets to love in the 1st round against a double's specialist; Radek Stepanek! I predicted he would eventually need hip replacements and probably wind up in a wheelchair! By the time he got to the final, he was playing well enough to blow Nole off the court in the 1st set, but was literally "done" after that with no energy left to finish losing in 4! :whistle: :nono: :cuckoo: :eek: :rolleyes:
 

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I’m taking everybody’s positive energy in this thread from all fanbases and redirecting that energy through the power of prayer for God to bless Nadal with an amazing & recordbreaking 2019 season. :yes: :good::clap:B-)
 

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I’m taking everybody’s positive energy in this thread from all fanbases and redirecting that energy through the power of prayer for God to bless Nadal with an amazing & recordbreaking 2019 season. :yes: :good::clap:B-)
You can do, say & believe what you want but I don't think it will do any good as I'm an atheist & don't believe in God so think the only way your comment will make a difference is if Nadal is reading this & it's making him think positive but you do whatever makes you happy.
 
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You can do, say & believe what you want but I don't think it will do any good as I'm an atheist & don't believe in God so think the only way your comment will make a difference is if Nadal is reading this & it's making him think positive but you do whatever makes you happy.
NadalFan is an example of extremely wishful worshipping, creating a large cognitive bias that overrides all facts contradicting the worshipping subject in his avatar name. I think we can even ignore God (in traditional sense) in this picture, because Nadal and nothing/no one else is NadalFan's "God". I postulate that if someone said, that "amazing & recordbreaking [sic] 2019 season" for Nadal required the precondition that NadalFan commit a violent crime or adultery as a "good omen", NadalFan would not hesitate to commit such mortal sin. The well-being of his idol is more important than that of his "God".
 
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You can do, say & believe what you want but I don't think it will do any good as I'm an atheist & don't believe in God so think the only way your comment will make a difference is if Nadal is reading this & it's making him think positive but you do whatever makes you happy.

Oh after you see what will happen in 2019 and the amazing Nadal, you will definitely start believing in God! :yesyes:
 

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NadalFan is an example of extremely wishful worshipping, creating a large cognitive bias that overrides all facts contradicting the worshipping subject in his avatar name. I think we can even ignore God (in traditional sense) in this picture, because Nadal and nothing/no one else is NadalFan's "God". I postulate that if someone said, that "amazing & recordbreaking [sic] 2019 season" for Nadal required the precondition that NadalFan commit a violent crime or adultery as a "good omen", NadalFan would not hesitate to commit such mortal sin. The well-being of his idol is more important than that of his "God".

:rolleyes:
 

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Oh after you see what will happen in 2019 and the amazing Nadal, you will definitely start believing in God! :yesyes:
It's worth pointing out that Nadal himself is, at least, an agnostic. He has said that he's not sure if there is a god, but he does feel sure that, if there is, s/he doesn't care who wins a tennis tournament.
 
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I'm not surprised in the least! It was asinine to go to that style of just being a retriever when he had a more offensive game early on! For the last few years while getting older, he allowed no names and never-weres to run his arse ragged! The epitome of what I'm talking about happened in his only chance to win the FO in '16! He was taken to the limit again and again, needing to come back from 2 sets to love in the 1st round against a double's specialist; Radek Stepanek! I predicted he would eventually need hip replacements and probably wind up in a wheelchair! By the time he got to the final, he was playing well enough to blow Nole off the court in the 1st set, but was literally "done" after that with no energy left to finish losing in 4! :whistle: :nono: :cuckoo: :eek: :rolleyes:
This falls under the category of blaming the player for their injuries. Say what you like about the way he plays, but it is what it is, and it has won him 3 Majors, 2 Olympic golds and a lot of MS1000s. I don't think players have a lot of say in where their strengths lie.
 

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according to l'Equipe, Sir Andy's hip's still a little bit painful....not a good news, I guess he could be done for tennis like Nalby and Kuerten were after a hip surgery
This is distressing. I really hope he can recover enough to find a couple of good years, yet.
 

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It's worth pointing out that Nadal himself is, at least, an agnostic. He has said that he's not sure if there is a god, but he does feel sure that, if there is, s/he doesn't care who wins a tennis tournament.
Interesting paparazzi-type factoid. Thanks Moxie.
While such factoid is not a pre-condition of Nadal's supposed agnosticism, it is an indication of the religious belief trends in the general society. It turns out the level of religiousness is highly anti-correlated to someone's education level. At the top of the pack - within the tenured uni professors - the incident of atheism is 97%. Now, Nad is one of the best (if not the best) expert in the game of tennis. And his top education level in this field is reflected in his rejection of God hypothesis there. However he is not a uni prof, so given his relatively lower level of expertise in other fields, he's not so sure, perhaps he even needs to fill in some "gaps" in his general knowledge with God hypothesis. In other words, Nad is just a poster boy of said anti-correlation between education and religiousness.
 
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Interesting paparazzi-type factoid. Thanks Moxie.
While such factoid is not a pre-condition of Nadal's supposed agnosticism, it an indication of the religious belief trends in the general society. It turns out the level of religiousness is highly anti-correlated to someone's education level. At the top of the pack - within the tenured uni professors - the incident of atheism is 97%. Now, Nad is one of the best (if not the best) expert in the game of tennis. And his top education level in this field is reflected in his rejection of God hypothesis. However he is not a uni prof, so given his relatively lower level of expertise in other fields, he's not so sure, perhaps he even needs to fill in some "gaps" in his general knowledge with God hypothesis. In other words, Nad is just a poster boy of said anti-correlation between education and religiousness.
I'm not exactly sure what you're going for with this, Chris, but I will tell you I don't think it's a "paparazzi-type factoid." Nadal spoke directly to his notion of belief, and rather rejected it, which is rare in famous athletes. (His Uncle Toni, who is a deep thinker, imo, has outright declared himself an atheist.) I think you under-value those who may lack formal education, as most tennis players do, as unsophisticated in their thinking. While many are, they also have an exposure to the wider world that could be said to compensate for formal education. I'm not sure if you're saying that educated people don't believe in god, or if you're saying that tennis players are mostly dummies, and Nadal is an anomaly in his ability to eschew religion, even though he quit school early, as did most tennis players. Or both.
 

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I'm not exactly sure what you're going for with this, Chris, but I will tell you I don't think it's a "paparazzi-type factoid." Nadal spoke directly to his notion of belief, and rather rejected it, which is rare in famous athletes. (His Uncle Toni, who is a deep thinker, imo, has outright declared himself an atheist.) I think you under-value those who may lack formal education, as most tennis players do, as unsophisticated in their thinking. While many are, they also have an exposure to the wider world that could be said to compensate for formal education. I'm not sure if you're saying that educated people don't believe in god, or if you're saying that tennis players are mostly dummies, and Nadal is an anomaly in his ability to eschew religion, even though he quit school early, as did most tennis players. Or both.
Thanks for correcting by characterisation. If Nad said sth officially, it's not "paparazzi".

I didn't say anything on the subjects emphasised above and your inference about my opinion on said subjects is incorrect.

Regarding formal vs. informal education, I think both types are equally valuable in the practical sense. If I talk about formal education only while anti-correlating the education and religiousness, that's because the social researchers who discovered said anti-correlation, used formal education as their input data which is the only way to ensure the data is not biased. I'm confident in my opinion, that if informal education level could be somehow measured & used, the said anti-correlation would've been even higher. Also note that I did not say anything about the value of religious (i.e. unti-correlated to education) worldview. I didn't have to say anything because it was beside my point. But since you've been trying to infer my opinion, I can satisfy your curiosity and explain it. it's up to an individual to pursue their education level as well as moral/religious beliefs. Some people chose to drop out of school because they felt high expertise their school would give them would be useless. Some people don't want to spend their time trying to find scientific explanation of everything, because it's impossible. They prefer to spend their time on something else/more useful, and fill the "gaps" in their knowledge with supernatural beliefs. I don't denigrate those who chose to have such beliefs, although I disagree with such attitude and prefer to seek rational explanation. Some people have to "fill the gap" in their knowledge by jumping to a dimension orthogonal to reality (i.e. irrational) and that's fine, but I don't: I can live with pure void. By now, you can infer that I'm 100% atheist but I'm not a uni prof so I do not quote said anti-correlation to boost my ego.

Regarding the intelligence of tennis players, I don't know how you could infer that I think tennis players are "dummies", because my true opinion is opposite. I think tennis is a game where athleticism and "smart thinking" go together, I indicated it few times elsewhere. So, Nad is not "an anomaly", all players who succeed in this game must be "smart thinking", also knowledgeable individuals. This is a necessary condition. Nad is the smartest and most knowledgeable of them all by virtue of being the most successful in the game, not by virtue of any exception.
 

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I'm a little perplexed as to why you went off on this, but tennis players drop out of school to play tennis. Very few complete higher education, and even still, if you ask me, it doesn't make sophisticates out of most of them. I do think that Nadal is rather more sophisticated than he gets credit for, as you rightly mention. As to the rest, I think it's for another thread.
 
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