Donald Trump - Opinions?

[teddytennisfan]

Nobody is trying to silence you, per se. Just hitting the "mute" and "edit" buttons. You're not the only one who's paying attention to the world. But banging other people over the head, shouting with capital letters and having diarrhea of the keyboard doesn't really help your cause. You have other issues. May I suggest that you start a thread of your own?

NOW -- THAT'S REALLY RICH OF YOU..


you simply reveal one thng SO COMMON among americans -- citizens of the empire of chaos:

that when a subject is expanded, explored to its full extent -- they tehn resort , in their great, great discomfort at the EMBARRASSMENT of what they themselves KNOW to be true were they REALLY honest --

to nothing more than puerile personal attacks...such as :

==" oh something wrong about your CAPS...oh you are this and that, YOU .....you you you"

that is known as the attack on the messenger because they can't address the issues and where they LEAD.

ad hominem attacks...

roflmao...

you simplyc an't take the fact that insetead of your CAREFULLY arranged "'confines" and ''picture frame" of WHAT topics to address that are related to the subject YOU yourselves PRETEND to be concerned or know about


\'extrapolations" arrive that are TOO EMBARRASSING or discomfiting for your PREFERRED paradigms.

so then -- you PROFESS being ''rational" to say "can't you make your own threaD" ?

YOU CONCERN YOURSELVES WITH THE APPEARANCE OF SOMETHING OR SOMONE (CAPS, hey -- no yelling, hey -- your grammar, hey - your sytnax ,m, hey , ehey your daily ipills, hey )

as a way to DETRACT FROM THE ISSUE -- THAT FLOWS OUT OF THE SUBJECT YOU YOURSELVES thnk you are ''seriously discussing"

but ONLY to a certani LIMIT of ''truthiness"...


knowing that it IS a way for YOU TO AVOID what you OUGHT TO ADDRESS IN A TRUTHFUL , HONEST, MATURE WAY OF REASONING


no matter how it makes YOU unfcomrtable about YOUR assumptions!

ya ?

so -- tell me -- what ELSE did DONALD TRUMP SAY ABOUT NATO --

AND EXPLAIN WHY:

1) HE IS CORRECT ON ONE SIDE of his argumentation but
2) INACCURATE on the OTHER FLIP-SIDE OF THAT same argumentation

that -- on the surface at least -- he DIFFERS from KILLARLY KLLTON and HER FORMER ''boss"

emperor barry the nobel peace prize winner whose TANKS IN AFGHANISTAN

were ordered by HIS GOVERNMENT -- TO BARGE RIGHT THROUGH A HOSPITAL , AND LITERALLY BLOWIN GIT UP TO SMITHEREENS with paitents and doctors inside


? and it's HUSHED UP BY YOUR MORNING PAPERS?

YA?

what DO you know about the different between a TERRORIST BOMBING IN PAKISTAN'S city of lahore

that killed CHRISTIANS

FROM ONE that killed EUROPEAN christians in BRUSSELS?

OR -- DID YOU EVEN KNOW ABOUT WHY NO AMERICAN OR WESTERN LEADER SHED A TEAR

FOR THE brown skinned christians in lahore -- BUT HINDUS and MUSLIMS in INDIA did? EVEN IF PAKISTAN IS A BITTER RIVAL OF INDIA...


WHILE YOUR HYPOCRTICAL '\chirstian western civilziation" cries crocodile tears about


charlie hebdo" or bruessles....


even IF THE TERRORISTS ARE THE SAME VARIETY THAT WERE TRAINED BY YOUR VERY OWN CIA?


YA?

 

[teddytennisfan]

Nobody is trying to silence you, per se. Just hitting the "mute" and "edit" buttons. You're not the only one who's paying attention to the world. But banging other people over the head, shouting with capital letters and having diarrhea of the keyboard doesn't really help your cause. You have other issues. May I suggest that you start a thread of your own?

NOBODY ''is trying to silence you -- PER SE" .


right...-- one of those VERY TYPICALLY american ''qualifiers"

that doesn't erase the ATTEMPT to turn youselves DEAF AND MUTE AND BLIND -- by ''pushing the mute and edit and consign to the other thread or memory blackhole"

.

in THIS argument -- which is WIDER and deeper and broader and MORE TRUTHFUL than any of you CLEARLY are prepared or ABLE to contend with --

it is not *I* that has ''other issues"...

of which you know NOTHING about...

in this argument -- it is YOU and those like you who like their ice-cream without theCOLDNESS.

WHO LKE ICECREAM MADE BY MONSANTO designed to NOT MELT!

just the EXACT KIND OF TRUTH - is what folks lke you LOVE...

the ones that will RE-INFORCE your MYTHOLOGIES

of "our great nation of freedom and courage and justice and liberty and leadership n the world"...

roflmao


as a WISE PERSON -- a very young ameridcan poet put it - years ago - i came across his little blog and i unfortunately can not recall -- but i was so MOVED by his PURE HONESTY -- when lookng at the ENTIRE SORDID -- savagery of what passes for '' exceptional nation " -- history ...

"WE AMERICANS -- carefully nurture an attitude of STUDIED indifference to the suffering of OTHERS --

EVEN IF WE -- are the cause of it".


OR another wise man from texas years ago posting in a VERY important website MOST OF YOU know nothing about ...ASIATIMES - (THOUGH it has lately been bought by NEO-CONS) --

SAYING another PERFECT description of your own ''dear free country"...

"all our traditions, our celebrations, our mythology of how great we are, ,all our parades and hymns and paeans to our greatness as a people -- all our wonderful stories we like to tell each other about what good guys we are that the world is blessed by our existence -- all our institutions and orgnizations professing our great patriotism and our standing up for justice, and freedom and choice and liberty and fairness: ..............

:'' are onlyk OUR COLLECTIVE WAY OF BURYING OUR GREAT SINS AGAINST OTHERS AS A NATION".

 

[teddytennisfan]

Too bad teddytennisfan doesn't have any strong opinions. But, back to Trump: the NYTimes delineates why he'll have a steep climb in the general election, if he's the nominee:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/u...mp-general-election.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

AS FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES


you are going to use the TRUMPET OF EMPIRE?

the one that SAT ON EVIDENCE -- by the USA' S own MOST PROFESSIONAL MINDED ANALYSTS
\

that told BUSH AND COM[PANY -- hussein and iraq did NOT have WMD\'S -- buit suppressed it in order to HELP

the USA SELL the iraq invasion -- tha tdestroyed one of the most advanced and STABLE countries there -- that NOW


as a result of that GRAND LIE -- ENABLED BY THE NEW YORK TIMES --


MILLIONS DEAD -- FOR THE OIL AND PETRODOLLAR hussein wanted to FREE his country from -- as ALAN GREENSPAN ADMITTED -- SEVERAL YEARS LATER -- after the destruction was DONE....

NOW has become the HOTBED AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST SOURCES OF TERRORISTS

because of people who were rendeered jobless


by the destruction of YOUR EMPIRE?

aided by the new york times/


YOU are going to cite THAT screed? about how TRUMP is ''so disliked" he might as well call it curtains


OR if he doesn't INSINUATION TO VOTGERS THAT "''HEY -- YOUR votes are wasted on trump = jus tvote KILLARY"

?


ARE YOU THAT Easy TO BRAINWASH?

oh wait -- you ARE americans -- you will swallow lie after lie aafter lie


again and again.....

 

[Moxie]

Can you just look at how many things you put on the table in your 2nd above and not realize it makes you impossible to engage with? And it's not like we haven't discussed many of those things here, even as small as our forum is, in direct and coherent conversations. Other conversations. My qualm with you, and forgive me if it's just me, is that you not only open the topic so largely as to obscure it, but you aren't actually engaging in conversation. You seem to enjoy the sound of your own voice, but can't hear anyone else's. You'll feel free, of course, to post away. But you'll have to forgive me if I feel free to ignore you. You bring a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

 

[teddytennisfan]

Nobody is trying to silence you, per se. Just hitting the "mute" and "edit" buttons. You're not the only one who's paying attention to the world. But banging other people over the head, shouting with capital letters and having diarrhea of the keyboard doesn't really help your cause. You have other issues. May I suggest that you start a thread of your own?

i am not interested iin what you think of ME --

amn interested in the subject matter and throwing out the INFORMATIN AND CORRECT ONES that the lot of you don't UNDERSTAND or refuse to SEE -- and it's up to yopu ito read or not...which will only prove one way or another -- and no other --

whether you ARE capable of TRUTH.

as for donal and hillary --

hjeck the KILLARY LOT is now throwing up

some juvenile =- BADLY reasoned commercial to ge tvoters to ''just vote hillary"

liek SHE ALREADY ASSUMES HER CROWNING --

WITH:

""TELL DONAL TRUMP -- AMERICA IS *ALREADY* GREAT"

as if by merely saying HE doesn't agree with more money thrown at NATO BUILDUP -- RIGHT AT THE DOORSTEP OF RUSSIA based on NON-EXISTENT russia threat --

while THAT VERY BUILD UP ITSELF *IS* A THREAT TO RUSSIA

where the USA has NO BUSINESS putting its soldiers there as it is NOT YOUR LAND OR REGION OR CONTINENT!

THAT IS SUPPOSED TO EQUATE WITH TRUMP saying ""america is NOT great" ...

that is juvenile - and bad INSINUATION of


''thought conclusion" based on NON-EXISTENT position or statement" by trump.


and for the matter of america being "'already great" ...


BY what measure exactly?


because it's BIG ECONOMY? -- i's built on centuries of PLUNDER AND BLACKMAIL AND INVADING OTHERS AND DESTROYING OTHERS AND their economies -- to ensure they are OBEDIENT to the american chambers of commerce!

education? americans are TRAINED ROBOTS -- MOST OF THEM ANYWAY -- who can't identify a country UNLESS they've INVADED AND DESTROYED IT based on yet MORE fraudulent claims about

"greatest threat to mankind with a HITLER n charge".

health care?america has the most expenvie system on earth with LITTLE BANG FOR THE BUCK ,
WAGES? workers are going to have ''pay raises" to 15 dollars an hour


""by 2022" -- STARTING from 2018 end year...while MINIMUM WAGE OUGHT TO BE AT LEAST 25$

at the american ''price of living".

freedom? liberty? you have the worled's BIGGEST PRISON POPULATION -- MOSTLY BASED

ON PEOPLE BEING POOR OR BLACK OR COLORED! for a country that has only 1 percent of the global population!

choice? WHAT CHOICE? do americans HAVE choice as to WHO TO FIELD AS CANDIDATES WHO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT POVERTY in new orleans 0r IN THE STREETS of new york

or EMPIRE and the MILITARY INDUSTRAIL COMPLEX THAT WASTED 1.5 TRILLION DOLLARS


for the ''development" of the ''greatest ever bomber fighter" --

that can barely FLY and - when tested against 1970'S soviet era planes


can not be guaranteed "to survive combat" as even pilots attest?

what ''greatness?"

 

[teddytennisfan]

Can you just look at how many things you put on the table in your 2nd above and not realize it makes you impossible to engage with? And it's not like we haven't discussed many of those things here, even as small as our forum is, in direct and coherent conversations. Other conversations. My qualm with you, and forgive me if it's just me, is that you not only open the topic so largely as to obscure it, but you aren't actually engaging in conversation. You seem to enjoy the sound of your own voice, but can't hear anyone else's. You'll feel free, of course, to post away. But you'll have to forgive me if I feel free to ignore you. You bring a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

LIKE I SAID -- IT IS NOT relevant to the ISSUES AT HAND


so long as there is A FORUM tha tpurports to allow expressions and information -- and i see fit that the discussiohn


IS INSUFFICIENT in the assumptions made by people -- i will throw out the information and arguments they NEED TO hear --

and THEN -- it is THEIR CHOICE TO VISIT IT AND ENGAGE IT -- or not....

YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH FORM --

i am concerned with CONTENT.

 

[teddytennisfan]

Can you just look at how many things you put on the table in your 2nd above and not realize it makes you impossible to engage with? And it's not like we haven't discussed many of those things here, even as small as our forum is, in direct and coherent conversations. Other conversations. My qualm with you, and forgive me if it's just me, is that you not only open the topic so largely as to obscure it, but you aren't actually engaging in conversation. You seem to enjoy the sound of your own voice, but can't hear anyone else's. You'll feel free, of course, to post away. But you'll have to forgive me if I feel free to ignore you. You bring a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

AS FOR ''engaging"

I DO NOT expect you or anyone to engage n every instance that i even put tme here - NOT LEAST because I WAS also NVITED TO PRESENT my thoughts on these matters...

yet -- HERE -- right HERE -- YOU have an opportunity to prove tha tYOU are as mature in engaing subject matter


even one as LMITED as THIS statement of Yours THAT i asked you about as part of th extropaltions of mine tha tyou find discomfor twith:


YOUR statement:

"i follow world events' or something of the sort...

well -- i DID ASK YOU to show how you do so -- and why MY following events and RELATE THEM to THIS DISCUSSION -- is somehow not so conducive to ''engagement??"

i asked you: :

"what do you know of the DIFFERENCE between the reaction by the WESTERN WORLD to the bombings of CHRISTIANS n brussels and charlie hebdo n paris -- crying rivers -- BUT UTTER SILENCE about the bombings of BROWN SKINNED CHRISTIANS n lahore pakistan

by MUCH THE SAME KND of terrorists that THE CIA and american ''allies" for decades TRAINED AND ENABLED? AS PROXY ARMIES FOR THE AMERICAN EMPIRE'S DESIGNS? AND NOW is coming back to BITE the very centers and captials of the west?

you dd not ;;''engage" that -- which is CRITICAL to the issue of PRESIDENTIAL elections .

if you follow events -- that sooner or later you will be FORCED to confront - when your USA and media find them USEFUL to HERD you -- americans into yet MORE wars of empire --

what do you know of this word
KARABAKH? wihtout googling in order to answer ME?

and what does THAT have to do with a VISIT BY JOHN KERRY TO A CERTAIN capital -- and just 3 weeks later --


A new conlfict arises FROM that capital towards a NEIGHBOR country that just happens to be historically and traiditonally friendly to RUSSIA? because it was russia that defended THAT other country from GENOCIDE

BY AN AMERICAN ALLY NAMED TURKEY?

ya?

 

[Moxie]

You did not read that Billie, another poster, and myself, decried both of those bombings on another thread, when they happened. We don't ignore these things, but I won't be bullied into talking about them on your schedule, and when you co-opt a thread. And, yes, you're being a bully. Or trying to be.

 

[teddytennisfan]

You did not read that Billie, another poster, and myself, decried both of those bombings on another thread, when they happened. We don't ignore these things, but I won't be bullied into talking about them on your schedule, and when you co-opt a thread. And, yes, you're being a bully. Or trying to be.

dont' try to be clever...while using "'be bullied" as if implyin gTHAT is what i am doing.


that i put out information in and of itself is NOT bullying -- tha tyou characterise as such.

that' sONE distinct matter.

the other is -- if I ask you to asnwer -- and you don't ''to my schedule"
\
that is UP TO YOU to answer or not. .or IF you can answser --


directlky to my questions based on YOUR own statements 0f which i gave you an exampl,e...

now -- for the fact that you TRY to characterise my posting here , just because there are MANY --

as ;bullying

is BENEATH contempt.

it is an attempt on YOUR part to avoid actually addressing what i challenged you to discuss SINCE YOU had complained about ME

and my ''extrapolations" of a mater that I produce material that PROVE they are NOT extraneous to the suibject at hand -- in fact -- CONFIRM THAT THEY are related and NOT MERE ''extrapolations" as you put it - as IF they were -- verging on ''off-topic"

and THAT -- from your part -- your PART -- is the BULLYING,

NO MINE,

IT IS you THAT WANTS TO BULLY ME to ''limit" how i address the issue i consider ALL RELATED....

just because you don't want them connected in THIS THREAD...

while at the same time you make an issue of ME and now my "bullying" --


is that supposed to lead to an ''appeal to the readers" to ''isolate' me? ignore the infortmation i present that GIVE SUBSTANCE to my engaging the topic of TRUMAND ELECTIONS. >


let us go back to BULLYING>


WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR initial responses to ME were all about -- if NOT BULLYING ME

to satisfy and confine myself to a way of argument that YOU fnd conducive?

or [erhaps you are NOT so comfortable that i ''EXTRAPOLATE"

issues such as DEAR LEADER OBAMA'S WAR CRIMINALITY....


?

THAT I ''defend putin? and compare him " favoriably

as I RECALL YOU WERE rather displeased that I DID? ELSEHWERE?


you are too transparent MOXIE,



NOW -- AS TO some other thread --

thank you for LEADING ME THAT WAY --


THERE ARE MANY THREADS HERE -- AND i SIMPLY stay with one so long as someone repsonds and i will throw out as much information as necessary in order to BOLSTER my arguments


that is the PROBLEM of you or others that can not take such information .

WERE I TO GO THERE AND SAY MUCH THE SAME RELATED THINGS AS I SAY HERE -- WITH BILLIE

(AND I DO have certain things to share with him CONCERNING SERBIA POPULATIONS NOW DEMANDING

THEIR LEADERS -- PUT N PLACE BY THE USA -- YES -- YOUR VERY OWN OBAMA -- NOT DRAG THEM NTO NATO -- AS OBAMA WANTS!!) ...

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO ME THEN?

and i came with TONS of information to bolster my arguments/ ?


so -- don't try to be celver with insnuiations about ''bullying" !


there IS A bully n this world - the whoeorld knows about

it's the USA -- and it's led by the current GLOBAL B UILLY OBAMA.

AND WE ARE TALKNG ABOUT WHETHER it's going to be led by a TRUMP OR KILLARY.

 

[teddytennisfan]

You did not read that Billie, another poster, and myself, decried both of those bombings on another thread, when they happened. We don't ignore these things, but I won't be bullied into talking about them on your schedule, and when you co-opt a thread. And, yes, you're being a bully. Or trying to be.

AS FOR '''my schedule"

you have yours i - i have mine, \


i post my responses to any of yours - as many as i wish and as needed to substantiate mine --

and you have a problem with that -- that 's YOUR problem , not mine. MY concern is to KNOW such things when i argue a subject and present them.

you post whever you want when you wake up or sit up late -- i do the same


teh fact that i happen to be - in real time responding to you

and ask you your responses -- WHEN i do HAVE my own ''schedule"

DOES NOT EQUATE with my demanding you match YUR SCHEDULE WITH MINE

OR EVEN that you respond even if I asked a question that needs PROPER DIRECT ANSWER - such as when i asked you what you know abotu KARABAKH - VISIT BY KERRY TO ''somewhere" directly related to WHO gets to be president --

RATHER THAN YOU ELIDING AWAY AND NOW TALKING ABOTU ''BUILLYING".

you keep changng the subject from SUBJECT MATTER -- TO



teddytennisfan.


something is very wrong about THAT line of dscussion. and it says more about the one that keeps doing it.

and that isnt' ME.

 

[teddytennisfan]

You did not read that Billie, another poster, and myself, decried both of those bombings on another thread, when they happened. We don't ignore these things, but I won't be bullied into talking about them on your schedule, and when you co-opt a thread. And, yes, you're being a bully. Or trying to be.

AND -- GOOD FOR YOU -- from my personal view -- that you and billie exchanged and shared horror at those poor people killed -- whether in pakistan or brussels

yet whether or not i read YHOUR exchange "in another thread" -- and I don't make a habit of checking every single one -- but respond to ONE that takes my particular interest and WHICH I GET MESSAGES OR UPDATES ABOUT --

in other words -- i donj't JUST barge n on people...

even if i KNOW i have PLENTY to say -

DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT that you have tried to CURTAIL my exploration of the connections between


THIS THREAD'S SUBJECT OF AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS -- TRUMP AS THE TTLE --

WITH AMERICAN POLICIES --

WHICH ARE INHERENTLY WHAT THE PRESIDENTS DO -- SUCH AS WAR CRININALS OBAMA , KILLTON,

SUSAN RICE, CONDI RICE , CHENEY RICE...

ETC.. ECTC...

your country -- USA has its fingers everywhere in the p;lanet like some endless nuimbered tentacular criminal organization --


YET YOU ARE GOING TO TELL ME where and on WHAT one can talk about WHICH topic that nvolves


the CRIMINAL, STATE TERRORIST USA?

or does THAT SOUND TOO HARSH?


let's ask the native peoples that were destroyed N ORDER TO BUILD THE WONDERFUL EMPIRE OF YOURS


that is as busy - -busier even -- as ever in ''adventures to conquer the endless wild west|"


which NOW comprises the WORLD ITSELF!
!
WITH YOUR CURRENT CHIEF OBAMA -- soon to be followed by the CROWNING OF EMPRESS KILLARY

who of course got her PRACTICE ON LIBYA...

nse see if DONALD ''CAN WIN"
!
for whatever THAT s worth!


n oreer to BULD

 

[Moxie]

https://www.youtube.com/user/LastWeekTonight

 

[teddytennisfan]

https://www.youtube.com/user/LastWeekTonight

THANK YOU for this k, Moxie...

yeah khnow aboutr him of course...


COMPARED to the nformaton i gather from across the world

t s too ''pale" for me.

stll -- gve him hs credt.


anyweay -- am there n that other trhead you referred to .

 

[britbox]

The more I'm seeing of Bernie Sanders, the more I'm liking him. Hillary will probably get the democrat nomination though and that pick is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

[teddytennisfan]

for me -- i\m basically DONE with them .

but i can agree with anyone that -- since - if people are going to exercise their votes in the american pretend democracy --

and if that is all really -= even if just for the RITUAL and its usefulness to keep up the charade -- and make americans feel good about their ''free choice"

HEY -- i'd go for sanders too.

BUT ABSOLUTELY -- since only one has to win -- HILLARY IS SOMETHING (based of course on actual HIGH POWER DECISION-MAKING RECORD) -

ANYONE that can still at least trust his or her own EYES IF - AND ONLY IF -- they are sufficiently informed -- whch americans most decidedly are NOT in the true critical matters for correct judgment --

based on what can be seen with what hillary has ALREADY done

to demonstrate just how MUCH OF A THREAT this woman truly is -- not just for ordinary americans -- but for the world.

people really have no idea.

she would becpome the personification of the separate powers

of GEORGE SOROS (RESPONSIBLE for the funding, in large part of UKRAINE DEBACLE - which he blames with his ''open society" foudnation on RUSSIA - Responsible also for encouraging the DESTRUCTION of european countrie's idnependence and sovereignty with his SAME ''OPEN BORDERS" MEME --
WHICH HE also blames on russia...

responsible for the DESTRUCTION OF THE BANK OF LONDON OR WAS THAT BARCLAYS? IN THE 1990'S WITH HIS SIMILARLY CONCOCTED \\

|"short selling " speculation to COLLAPSE ENTIRE economies for years by destroying the value of their currencies -- such as that VIRUS he unleashed in southeast asiia in the 1980's...(he attempted that with CHINA recently -- and the chinese FRONT-PAGED him with a SEVERE WARNING -- that he is up aganst something much BIGGER than HE! ) ..

and what about albrght ? oh wha ta grandma she IS!!!

WHAT ABOUT hillary's husband's ''senior adviser" for the destruciton of yugoslavia as ''TEST CASE" FOR

WHAT IS NOW HAPPENING across the middle east, north africa, their attempts n central asia

to go for RUSSIA which IS BRZEZINSKI'S OBSESSION TO ''carve up into 3 smaller countries to be man
aged more easily by us".


?

huh? JUST EVEN THOSE THREE -- AND THAT'S NOT SAYING ALL OF IT -- by a mile --


are ''multiple personalities of evil"

waiting to be unleashed ALL N ONE NEAT PACKAGE

going by the name of '\'FIRST EMPRESS OF THE EMPIRE OF CHAOS"

KILLARY KILLTON.

and she' s probably gonna talk somewhere down theline abotu ''WOMEN"s POWER|" -- while madeleine albright LITERALLY

went on tv and media SCOLDING ANY AMERICAN WOMAN

who DARES not to vote for hillary "THERE IS A SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL FOR YOU"!!


WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE THESE? MY GOD!

AND NOW -- AS i already forewarned here -- the ALL-OUT MEDIA CAMPAIGN AGAINST PUTIN

thinking that they could MAKE the russian people drop him by ''corruption'' accusations BY ASSOCIATION -- NOTHING MORE (LIKE ALL ACCUSATIONS THE USA has thrown around -- -- accusation EQUALS EVIDENCE AND THEREFORE EQUALS CONVICTION AND THEREFORE EQUALS EXECUTION -- that's how LOW - lower than the GUTTER american morality and intellectual ''logic" has gone down to )


by associating him with a supposed ''close friend caught in money laundering in PANAMA"...


OH BOY -- YOUR OWN BBC, BRITBOX -- now NOTORIOUS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD as a nest o fliars anyway --

worse than EVEN YOUR OWN GEORGE ORWELL EVER IMAGINED...


AND EVEN MORE CRASS THAN GEOBBELS...


COMES UP WTH INSTANT -- READY

FRONT PAGE PHOTOS OF PUTIN AT THE CENTER OF THE \'PANAMA DOCUMENTS OF POWERFUL PEOPLE THAT ARE CORRUPT"

WITH OVER A MLLION PAGES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF PUTIN...

JUST THAT A FRIEND OF HIS MIGHT BE!!


ONLY TO BE QUICKLY EXPOSED



just an hour ago -- by more scrutiny be REAL journalists --

that the SAME ORGANIZATION N PANAMA JUST HAPPENS TO BE FUNDED BY SOROS AND THE


USAID for democracy!!!


oh my god!!

is that HOW LOW AND CLUMSY THEY HAVE GOTTEN DOWN TO NOW?


but never mind -- the echo chamber of the USA AND BRITISH AND WESTERN MEDIA

WILL MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE HEAR THE ''TRUTH"

FROM THEIR MINISTRIES OF TRUTH

GEORGE ORWELL WOULD CRINGE FROM!!


SO

THAT LEAVES WHO? SANDERS instead of hillary ? who is already so CERTAIN OF HER WIN (despite losing 6 of the last 7 contests) --

that her ADS CONCENTRATE ON ''PRESUMED TRUMP?"

DOESN'T THAT TELL SOMETHING ABOUT ''AMERICAN DEMOCRACY?"


IT'S - FRANKLY -- AND DESERVEDLY TEH LAUGHING STOCK OF THE UNIVERSE!


not least because america LECTURES the world about what it DOESN'T have!

 

[teddytennisfan]

The more I'm seeing of Bernie Sanders, the more I'm liking him. Hillary will probably get the democrat nomination though and that pick is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

i was so NASTY to MOXIE LAST NIGHT -- AND I AM SORRY - MOXIE

I AM JUST being overly wrought ..but i shouldn't be so ''hot" tempered like that just because we don't see eye to eye.


it's not nice of me.

 

[teddytennisfan]

The more I'm seeing of Bernie Sanders, the more I'm liking him. Hillary will probably get the democrat nomination though and that pick is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

she really , really scares me...BRITBOX...

there is something almost deliriously LUNATIC about her ..her eyes, her visage -- the way her face hardens or in the obvious

manufactured , practiced smile and look of ''spontaneous rapport" with people...you can almost see her brain WHIRRING AWAY

about the POWER she will wield once she gets in office --

making EDICTS AND going around the law and constitution for whatever it is worth ...

I LONG AGO knew a young man - he was from israel -- and had some difficulty with papers - he's ok now, good for him --


but as a desperate effort an old man he knew tried something -- to introduce him to someone who KNEW hillary (as she was then NY state senator to get her ''official creds") --

so that maybe she -- having constitutional authority - could give him a dsipensation...he just didn't want to fight n the isaeli army and kill people -- or be arrested if he ever went back OR must declare homself insane (those are the only choices they are allowed -- i learned that DIRECTLY from at least 3 of them - one a colonel long ago) -

so he was brought to her office --

he described to me:

"we walked in -- and the door opened and she was sitting behind this very large desk - very much like a queen ...and as i was introduced - my name, so andso -- she never moved a hair or a twitch -- only her eyes looked at me her face lke a stone...and she looked at me long enough withou a word - and i was sure she wanted -- SHE WANTED me to feel like i am nothing...and then that was it -- we went out without a word.."

AND HE GOT nothing frpm that visit -- he just luckily did truly fall n love with someone who cared about him and i think they are very happy now..which is good.

but imagine?

so -- THAT is what hillary WILL BE to the ''PEOPLE' who are little ants and unworthy of HER HIGHNESS.

WHO HAS GREAT THNGS N HER MIND -- HER THOUGHTS OF GREAT CONSEQUENCES TO THE EXISTENCE OF HUMANITY!!


she empress hillary -- |"my turn"!!

 

[Federberg]

Maybe... or perhaps she was upset about having to deal with an individual case like that which is way below her pay grade, and could open her up to the very accusations of corruption she is being accused of. Was the guy one of her constituents? Probably not, so why should she be put in a position to have to refuse him?

 

[teddytennisfan]

Maybe... or perhaps she was upset about having to deal with an individual case like that which is way below her pay grade, and could open her up to the very accusations of corruption she is being accused of. Was the guy one of her constituents? Probably not, so why should she be put in a position to have to refuse him?

well -- she didn't do anything did she?


elected officials of a certain grade HAVE that authority .

and there is nothing undue or untoward about it..because the ypoung man had NOTHING to offer - he was poor - and had no one to turn to ...THAT is an outright case of HUMANITARIAN consideration -- that an official HAS the authorization by law to dispense to cases.

but forget about even that -- she has foundations tha treceiver BRIBES but are clever to skirt the law JUST SO PERFECTLY

her ''donors" from OIL companies are one such thing

the FAMOUS BILL CLINTON |""PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY"

no different from his defense on monica lewisnky

"it depends on what you mean -- what IS - IS".

that's where SHE and her husband are VERY , very CLEVER ABOUT...

BUT AGAIN never mind THAT -- IT'S THE WAY she made the yhoung man feel -- like he was nothing ...so WHAT if 2 minutes of her STARING TIME was wasted? who does she or anybody think they are because they are at the top of the world?

athe end of the day -- in a country LIKE the USA is supposed to be -


tehya re SERVANTS of the people SUPPOSEDLY!

SO -- my point is -- that was a window into the KIND OF PERSON SHE IS - and FROM THERE FLOWS

the EVIL that pours out of her own pores...LIKE HR GIDDY smacking on libya as ''the HITLER OF THE DAY " GADDAFI WAS literaly MURDERED N FRONT OF THE WORLD WITH A SWORD UP HIS BUTT..

TO SHOW THE KKND OF PEOPLE THIS HILLARY


will comport with to get the american empire's REGIME CHANGE.

but you know what ELSE/

WITH THAT invasion -- 150 tonnes of libya's GOLD DISAPPEARED....


where do you think that went?

GADDAFI was then in the fnal stages of formalizing the DETACHMENT from PETRO DOLLAR

N SELLING LIBYA'S OIL AND GAS - AND USE THE LIBYA GOLD AS THE COLLATERAL FOR issuing GOLD BACKED DINARS

TO increase investments and iinfrastructure buildng throughout HIS CONTINENT to free them from AMERIFCAN , EUROPEAN COLONIALISM.


THAT WAS A BIG, ,M BIG NO NO ...


same thing happened with hussein -- same thing they attempt against IRAN THAT has also been building up gold reserves and WON'T trade in dollars...even to the point of trading 'food for oil" ...etc..or ''product for product --

tonnage of carpets or caviar in exchange for wheat or shoes, whatever...

SAME THING with the RUSSIANS AND CHINESE -- who --

thankfully -- HAVE set up a GOLD EXCHANGE N SHANGHAI

to EXPOSE THE DISHONESTY OF \

\PRINTNG DOLLARS that have NO real collateral but 'ITSELF" WHCH IS DEBT!

AND THE MERE ''SAY SO" OF THE usa ...which IS the foundation of american empire iself...for WITHOUT the ability to

PRINT MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR -- and FORCE the world to SUPPPORT the USA by buying the ''GATE KEEPER DOLLAR" bn global exchange -- (which ALSO WASTES THE SAVNGS OF COUNTRIES IN ORDER TO BUY US DOLLAR TREASURIES AS /''reserve currency FOR "" TRANSNATIONAL TRANSACTIONS --


DO YOU REALLY THINK THE USA CAN ''print"


ITS MASSIVE ARMADAS -- ITS HUNDREDS OF JETS THAT RAIN DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ON COUNTRIES?

no sirree..........

and HILLARY is RIGHT AT THE CENTER of it all.
regardless that one agrees with or not -- about CAPITALISM

(WHICH I DETEST ,MYSELF)


THIS american ''way" in itself IS AN EVEN MORE dishonest DISHONESTY.

IT'S LIKE A SCAMMER OF ITS FELLOW GANGSTERS OF EUROPE .

AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE WORLD.

AND THAT'S what hillary wants to rule because |"it's my turn".


just my opinion -- but -- it's up to you folks. BUYERS BEWARE.

 

[Federberg]

^Hey I don't necessarily disagree, I was trying to present an alternative reason. But I do agree that there was no reason for condescension. Perhaps slick Bill had a reason for getting up to what he did. I'll always love the guy for the cigar thing. As a fellow cigar smoker he really opened my eyes!