Covid vaccine - opinions?

[Kieran]

You know, if they withdrew vaccines that had only a 1 in 10,000 chances of causing an adverse effect, what’s going on with this one? It’s way too politicised for a start, as @tented says, but also there’s obviously dodgy compromised politicians involved with Big Pharma, as your post about Rishi suggests.

The pharma industry has too much power and we as a public are become culturally too gullible and desperate for a quick fix. I don’t regret taking the vaccine except for this fact. I did it for the right reasons and so far I’ve had no adverse effects, but I shoulda listened to the missus. She’s more clued in on this stuff. I never take any pharmaceutical medicines, not in almost 30 years, but I thought this was the magic bullet to get life back to normal. Young people were terrible affected by bad government policies, and shockingly abusive PR campaigns that made them fearful of killing granny.

And now we see the effects of the vaccine.

The great British interrogator Jeremy Paxman was once asked why he goes in so hard on politicians when he interviews them and he said it’s because he looks at them sitting there and he thinks, why is this bastard lying to me. I think we’re all either fools or unthinking tribalists if we don’t adopt the same policy..

 

[don_fabio]

I was talking to a neighbor a couple of weeks ago. She is a conscious woman in her 50s, she moved from Gothenburg (Sweden) to the countryside and has her own farm, she grows everything herself. She said that no one employee of Astra Zeneca was vaccinated in Gothenburg. I think that also speaks volumes about the vaccine. In Germany there are currently over 200 lawsuits due to side effects from Pfizer vaccines.

I had to get vaccinated for work, but if I didn't have to, I never would. You could say that I have side effects, but I don't know if it's because of Covid or the vaccine. About 3 months after covid I got alopecia areata, coin size bald patches on 2-3 parts of my scalp and one on my chin. It's much better now without any medicines, but still not quite like before. Also, no one in my family is prone to autoimmune diseases. Quite often lately we hear how people's hearts have failed and they are not old nor have they had a heart attack. It sounds a little scary when you start to think more deeply about the consequences of vaccines or Covid.

 

[Kieran]

I was talking to a neighbor a couple of weeks ago. She is a conscious woman in her 50s, she moved from Gothenburg (Sweden) to the countryside and has her own farm, she grows everything herself. She said that no one employee of Astra Zeneca was vaccinated in Gothenburg. I think that also speaks volumes about the vaccine. In Germany there are currently over 200 lawsuits due to side effects from Pfizer vaccines.

I had to get vaccinated for work, but if I didn't have to, I never would. You could say that I have side effects, but I don't know if it's because of Covid or the vaccine. About 3 months after covid I got alopecia areata, coin size bald patches on 2-3 parts of my scalp and one on my chin. It's much better now without any medicines, but still not quite like before. Also, no one in my family is prone to autoimmune diseases. Quite often lately we hear how people's hearts have failed and they are not old nor have they had a heart attack. It sounds a little scary when you start to think more deeply about the consequences of vaccines or Covid.

That’s terrible!

I think the conversation about vaccine side effects is barely begun. There was an open attempt to cover stories of vaccine side effects by the US Dept of Labour, and I’ve heard countless stories from people who had adverse reactions and their doctor said, ‘nah I think it’s something else. I don’t think it’s the vaccine.’

I think this conversation will only gather momentum, like the suggestion that Fauci lied about gain of function research in Wuhan, and like Pfizer and other producers made claims they couldn’t support about the efficacy of their vaccines..

 

[the AntiPusher]

That’s terrible!

I think the conversation about vaccine side effects is barely begun. There was an open attempt to cover stories of vaccine side effects by the US Dept of Labour, and I’ve heard countless stories from people who had adverse reactions and their doctor said, ‘nah I think it’s something else. I don’t think it’s the vaccine.’

I think this conversation will only gather momentum, like the suggestion that Fauci lied about gain of function research in Wuhan, and like Pfizer and other producers made claims they couldn’t support about the efficacy of their vaccines..

Well I took probably my 7 doze of the Pfizer's vaccine (5th booster shot) last Friday but this time my side effects from the vaccine booster shot was very severe.( Body aches and 9/10 back spasms since Friday)...I have tried Tylenol and anti inflammatory medicine, hot baths with Epsom salt and green alcohol, heating pads. Today the pain is beginning to subside but I don't know if it's from sitting in the hot tub jacuzzi and the water jets. Well that's it for me. I am a believer in the vaccine especially since I have to travel internationally for work and etc. I honestly believe that this time I received a bad doze of the vaccine booster shot. Just my two cents worth

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Well I took probably my 7 doze of the Pfizer's vaccine (5th booster shot) last Friday but this time my side effects from the vaccine booster shot was very severe.( Body aches and 9/10 back spasms since Friday)...I have tried Tylenol and anti inflammatory medicine, hot baths with Epsom salt and green alcohol, heating pads. Today the pain is beginning to subside but I don't know if it's from sitting in the hot tub jacuzzi and the water jets. Well that's it for me. I am a believer in the vaccine especially since I have to travel internationally for work and etc. I honestly believe that this time I received a bad doze of the vaccine booster shot. Just my two cents worth

Can I say there has been a lot of bad side effects from the Pfizer vaccine, here in Australia, shame you could not have another type of vaccine, sorry to hear you had those side effects, I have to have boosters because I work in a hospital and have never had any side effects, though I have not had a Pfizer vaccine.
I prefer a protein based vaccine like Novavax.

 

[don_fabio]

That’s terrible!

I think the conversation about vaccine side effects is barely begun. There was an open attempt to cover stories of vaccine side effects by the US Dept of Labour, and I’ve heard countless stories from people who had adverse reactions and their doctor said, ‘nah I think it’s something else. I don’t think it’s the vaccine.’

I think this conversation will only gather momentum, like the suggestion that Fauci lied about gain of function research in Wuhan, and like Pfizer and other producers made claims they couldn’t support about the efficacy of their vaccines..

Certain people will keep digging, find a bunch of information and facts and Big Pharma will dissmiss all charges and claim innocent. They're too powerful. We'll probably get some conspiracy documentary and books about it, but world will keep going the same as before unfortunately.

 

[Kieran]

Well I took probably my 7 doze of the Pfizer's vaccine (5th booster shot) last Friday but this time my side effects from the vaccine booster shot was very severe.( Body aches and 9/10 back spasms since Friday)...I have tried Tylenol and anti inflammatory medicine, hot baths with Epsom salt and green alcohol, heating pads. Today the pain is beginning to subside but I don't know if it's from sitting in the hot tub jacuzzi and the water jets. Well that's it for me. I am a believer in the vaccine especially since I have to travel internationally for work and etc. I honestly believe that this time I received a bad doze of the vaccine booster shot. Just my two cents worth

Sorry to hear that, brother, hope you’re well!

 

[Kieran]

Can I say there has been a lot of bad side effects from the Pfizer vaccine, here in Australia, shame you could not have another type of vaccine, sorry to hear you had those side effects, I have to have boosters because I work in a hospital and have never had any side effects, though I have not had a Pfizer vaccine.
I prefer a protein based vaccine like Novavax.

What side effects are people showing?

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

What side effects are people showing?

Flu type side effects, headaches, muscle pain, fever

 

[Kieran]

Flu type side effects, headaches, muscle pain, fever

I’ve a friend ended up in hospital with blood clots. They still say it wasn’t the vaccine. Time was, a doctor might ask if you’ve taken any new medicines recently that might have caused this. The reply this time being, I don’t take medicines, but yeah got vaccinated recently.

The reply to that being, yeah but it’s not that. Anything else?

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I’ve a friend ended up in hospital with blood clots. They still say it wasn’t the vaccine. Time was, a doctor might ask if you’ve taken any new medicines recently that might have caused this. The reply this time being, I don’t take medicines, but yeah got vaccinated recently.

The reply to that being, yeah but it’s not that. Anything else?

There are some doctors that cannot think 'outside the box' they are very black and white in their approaches at times to patients, sad to say, I have bitten my tongue at times with some of their questions

 

[tented]

There are some doctors that cannot think 'outside the box' they are very black and white in their approaches at times to patients, sad to say, I have bitten my tongue at times with some of their questions

I’ve gotten to know many doctors in real life over the past 15-20 years. They mean well, but I’ve also been disabused of the ways in which I used to think of doctors: extremely knowledge, lots of experience, highly intelligent, curious minds, etc. This doesn’t apply to all of them, but many of them. It’s also a little sickening how many of them are truly doing it for the money.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I’ve gotten to know many doctors in real life over the past 15-20 years. They mean well, but I’ve also been disabused of the ways in which I used to think of doctors: extremely knowledge, lots of experience, highly intelligent, curious minds, etc. This doesn’t apply to all of them, but many of them. It’s also a little sickening how many of them are truly doing it for the money.

Some of the present doctors have not kept up with the advancements in medicine sad to say, yes some of them it is 'just a job' complaining about the hours etc, especially working in a hospital, well that should have known that before going into medicine it is not a 9 to 5 profession.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Flu type side effects, headaches, muscle pain, fever

Very painful muscle pain

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Very painful muscle pain

Is the muscle pain still there?

 

[the AntiPusher]

To be honest, a mild case of COVID would be better than this.. Pfizer vaccine needs to be recalled and removed

Flu type side effects, headaches, muscle pain, fever

 

[the AntiPusher]

Is the muscle pain still there?

Yes. It at the level of 3/10 but it's appears to come back every 3-4 hours

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

To be honest, a mild case of COVID would be better than this.. Pfizer vaccine needs to be recalled and removed

I am not a fan of Pfizer full stop, surely you could get another vaccine as a booster

 

[tented]

Pfizer vaccine needs to be recalled and removed

Careful! There may be a black ops already underway, heading to your location.

 

[the AntiPusher]

I am not a fan of Pfizer full stop, surely you could get another vaccine as a booster

My daughter took the Pfizer booster vaccine shot really zero side effects. I guess our 20 year age difference was a major factor