Covid vaccine - opinions?

Will you take the vaccine when it is available to you?

  • I will take the vaccine

    Votes: 12 70.6%
  • I don't trust the vaccine

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • Don't know enough yet

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Thrilled there is a vaccine...it feels like there is light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • I'll wait to see how it works for others

    Votes: 2 11.8%

  • Total voters
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Kieran

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Nice one by Woody Harrelson, although at this point I'm wondering why NBC was OK with that. My guess is that we're going to see a narrative switch towards "we were all duped - we need a scapegoat...where's that Fauci guy?"

Now I think Fauci is a criminal, but he's just the top of the iceberg. No one has mentioned the big news about the WSJ reporting that the lab leak theory is correct, but that should lead to serious trouble for Fauci (as it should). Thus, scapegoat.
There’s been persistent arguments that the CDC fund research in the Wuhan lab. Fauci sneers at elected officials - therefore, he sneers at the electorate - and condescendingly denies it. But if it’s proven then basically America will at best share culpability for this virus. They may have funded the pandemic…
 
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I'm in two minds about this mate. I'm bewildered that anyone in the medical profession with access to the data could have been pushing this into 2022. 2020? Forgivable? 2021? Very grey area, especially the latter part of the year. 2022, 2023? Karma will eventually prevail and it won't be pretty.

Still, for arguments sake, lets give the bloke the benefit of the doubt - but not accord him any hero status. There are thousands of others who got well and truly shafted by standing their ground.
 

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Dr Vernon Coleman is probably a better recipient for the "man who called it" award. Best selling author who had his Wiki pages edited and locked, smeared over all social media, multiple threats... the "old man in a chair" didn't give a f**k and called it from the beginning. If we're giving out platitudes, that fella needs to be one of the first called up.
 

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Amateur Dramatics:






If you look for theatre and theatrics, you will find them, but generally, masking is a useful tool against infection. It's why they use it in hospitals...since forever. At this point, masking is a choice, in certain situations. I'm good with that.
 

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If you look for theatre and theatrics, you will find them, but generally, masking is a useful tool against infection. It's why they use it in hospitals...since forever. At this point, masking is a choice, in certain situations. I'm good with that.
I've traveled to Asia and really for decades pre-Covid it's customary in public places to see many people choosing to mask up for a myriad of health reasons. Many times they do it out of concern of not spreading sickness to others. Japan in particular, masking up is not mandatory but again they choose to. The World figure skating championships were held in Japan last week and most spectators in the arena had masked up.
 
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I can understand the covid distrust based on the misrepresentations and profiteering. I can even understand a lot of the scepticism relating to masks. What I don't understand is how we've arrived at a place where people wearing masks get ridiculed. As I've said before if I get on public transport, which is very rare for me, I'll wear a mask. I finally understand why orientals wear them. I remember years back seeing them in tourist groups and I actually got a bit offended... "what you think your home is less polluted than here??" was my attitude. But they'd had SARS and MERS. I get it now
 
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If you look for theatre and theatrics, you will find them, but generally, masking is a useful tool against infection. It's why they use it in hospitals...since forever. At this point, masking is a choice, in certain situations. I'm good with that.

Not since forever... modern "health" measures started around a century or so ago. No cures, no tackling the source of disease... just pills, pills and more pills. You can't patent nature, so they synthesize it. Mimic it and add a few extra ingredients.

No offence, but you probably think they introduced fluoride to protect your teeth... while removing free dental care and promoting sugar 24/7. Fluoride was used to create a dumb, passive, obedient bunch of drones in prisoner of war camps... and it's been used ever since.
 

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You have to love legalese and fact checkers.


All controlled by the same bunch of actors...
 

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Not since forever... modern "health" measures started around a century or so ago. No cures, no tackling the source of disease... just pills, pills and more pills. You can't patent nature, so they synthesize it. Mimic it and add a few extra ingredients.

No offence, but you probably think they introduced fluoride to protect your teeth... while removing free dental care and promoting sugar 24/7. Fluoride was used to create a dumb, passive, obedient bunch of drones in prisoner of war camps... and it's been used ever since.
"Not since forever" was a rhetorical flourish, which I think you know. I didn't mean that cavemen surgeons were wearing masks. Even @Federberg agrees that there's no reason to put people off of masking. But then you deflect to "pills, pills, pills." That has nothing to do with masking, which was the only point I was making.

No offense, but I think you follow a lot of weird theories down the rabbit hole. I will not be freaking out about fluoride in my toothpaste.
 
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"Not since forever" was a rhetorical flourish, which I think you know. I didn't mean that cavemen surgeons were wearing masks. Even @Federberg agrees that there's no reason to put people off of masking. But then you deflect to "pills, pills, pills." That has nothing to do with masking, which was the only point I was making.

No offense, but I think you follow a lot of weird theories down the rabbit hole. I will not be freaking out about fluoride in my toothpaste.
even @Federberg :face-with-tears-of-joy:

good grief! I guess I'm some sort of monster to you now, just because I don't agree with your woke views. It's funny, but such a sad reflection of modern society
 

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"Not since forever" was a rhetorical flourish, which I think you know. I didn't mean that cavemen surgeons were wearing masks. Even @Federberg agrees that there's no reason to put people off of masking. But then you deflect to "pills, pills, pills." That has nothing to do with masking, which was the only point I was making.

No offense, but I think you follow a lot of weird theories down the rabbit hole. I will not be freaking out about fluoride in my toothpaste.

Not really deflecting - just aware that these people don't have your interests at heart. They have their interests at heart. If masks made a difference, don't you think they'd be wearing them?

The "health" industry doesn't have your interests at heart either. They serve profit-making corporations answerable to shareholders looking for a return on investment. Healthy men and women aren't good customers.

It's rather like calling a plumber to fix a leaking pipe problem. The plumber turns up with a mop, gets rid of the water but doesn't fix the source of the problem. You'll be constantly calling him to come around with mop. Bingo - there's your health industry. Sick people = Unsolved problem at source = Profit.

As for flouride - sure there is natural flouride. This isn't added to the water, it's already there. The stuff added to the water isn't natural and is effectively a poison. Sodium Fluoride.

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Pro Tip - if you get a reaction from rubbing something on your skin, then never eat it. Or in this case, rub on your gums.

The wise old grannies from yesteryear always knew their stuff. It's why the old Indian tribes always needed Grandma's wise wisdom of final approval to go to war. Men appreciate the divine feminine. Blokes wearing skirts not so much.



Thanks for your link. I'll raise you this one - the supressed docs where 18 of 19 studies show it lowers IQ. Other docs show the American IQ is the lowest since records began.


Houston, we have a problem.



If you liken fluoridation to the mop example above - why not tackle the sugar intake rather than the effects? Or at the very least let people buy fluoride pills rather than polluting the entire water system.
 
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Who (pardon the pun) would have thought...



Here's some context....



Of course, these creatures have your health at heart. Lol.

 

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As for flouride - sure there is natural flouride. This isn't added to the water, it's already there. The stuff added to the water isn't natural and is effectively a poison. Sodium Fluoride.

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Pro Tip - if you get a reaction from rubbing something on your skin, then never eat it. Or in this case, rub on your gums.
Do you mind if I ask which brand of toothpaste you use? It’s hard (in the US, at least) to find fluoride-free toothpaste. A quick google search found this, but they’re not brands you can easily find here.
 

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Do you mind if I ask which brand of toothpaste you use? It’s hard (in the US, at least) to find fluoride-free toothpaste. A quick google search found this, but they’re not brands you can easily find here.
I use a locally sourced Hemp-based paste. Before that I was using a brand called Grants, which was fine but it got runny in the heat of the Australian summer. I'm not sure if you can get it in the States or not, but there will be other similar ones.
 
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