CANADIAN MASTERS 2013 MONTREAL 2-11 August

[sid]

Couple of historical stats, which just underlines how much this event was dominated by the Big 4:
They won the last 9 Canada Rogers Cups: Djokovic 3 of them (2007, 2011, 2012), The other 3 2 each, Murray in 2009 and 2010, Rafa in 2005 and 2008 and Roger in 2004 and 2006.
You have to go back to 2003 to find a different winner Roddick.
Based on this, almost everything points to a final between the top 2 seeds, who shared the last 4 titles.

The obvious question is who would be if any of the 3 former winners competing unable to make it into the SF would be a big surprise and if the first time 3rd seed Ferrer makes this first SF in Canada living up to his ranking and reiterating his best year on tour once again?

I see only one historical stat; where is the second one?

Answers to your obvious questions, as I have a functioning
crystal ball.

1. Murray will lose to Del Potro (if not to Baby Fed).
Special note to Iona and co: Not because,
he is a bad player, but because he will be day dreaming and
might even see Fred in those dreams.

2. Ferrer will make it to SF, but will lose to Del Potro.

Potty just won the Citi Open (congrats) but how much gas has gone out of his tank,better have another look in that Crystal Ball

 

[tented]

Potty just won the Citi Open (congrats) but how much gas has gone out of his tank,better have another look in that Crystal Ball

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Juan-Martin-Del-Potro.aspx?t=pa&y=2009&m=s&e=0#

It didn't hurt him in 2009. Yes, that was 4 years ago, but he's only 24.

 

[sid]

Potty just won the Citi Open (congrats) but how much gas has gone out of his tank,better have another look in that Crystal Ball

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Juan-Martin-Del-Potro.aspx?t=pa&y=2009&m=s&e=0#

It didn't hurt him in 2009. Yes, that was 4 years ago, but he's only 24.

Murray might be rusty in 1st 2nd round,but if he meets Potty,my money would be on Murray.I can hear you say why,Murray likes the courts here.It's good that Potty playing great tennis.:clap

 

[Emma]

We don't wanna talk about Murray meeting Delpo just yet though Siddy!

 

[sid]

We don't wanna talk about Murray meeting Delpo just yet thought Siddy!

Babyfed first lol i know.

 

[Emma]

But more importantly, people need to realize that Murray is the better player on grass than Nole. In fact, he has the 3rd most consistent record on grass behind Federer and Hewitt in this era. He's probably the best player on grass right now.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-Grass-Current-List.aspx

Sort by Career Index, and Murray is No. 2 among active players.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-Grass-Career-List.aspx

On the active and non-active list, he's No. 4.

I actually wasn't going by the career index but most wins by active players. Here's the list taken from the first link.

1. Roger Federer: 13 titles; 122 wins and 18 losses

2. Leyton Hewitt: 7 titles; 120 wins and 36 losses

3. Andy Murray: 5 titles; 73 wins and 14 losses

4. Novak Djokovic: 1 title; 53 wins and 15 losses

5. Rafael Nadal: 3 titles; 50 wins and 13 losses

 

[tented]

But more importantly, people need to realize that Murray is the better player on grass than Nole. In fact, he has the 3rd most consistent record on grass behind Federer and Hewitt in this era. He's probably the best player on grass right now.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-Grass-Current-List.aspx

Sort by Career Index, and Murray is No. 2 among active players.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-Grass-Career-List.aspx

On the active and non-active list, he's No. 4.

I actually wasn't going by the career index but most wins by active players. Here's the list taken from the first link.

1. Roger Federer: 13 titles; 122 wins and 18 losses

2. Leyton Hewitt: 7 titles; 120 wins and 36 losses

3. Andy Murray: 5 titles; 73 wins and 14 losses

4. Novak Djokovic: 1 title; 53 wins and 15 losses

5. Rafael Nadal: 3 titles; 50 wins and 13 losses

Ah, I see. Terrific numbers for Andy.

 

[ClayDeath]

andy is tough on grass.

 

[ClayDeath]

where the hell is general sid?


general sid feel free to fire up a cincy masters thread.


it is just 1 week away now.

lets get that party started too.

you just know that roger and Tsonga will try to play there. it is going to be huge if all the top guns show.

 

[Emma]

While it shows who's the most consistent of the current bunch, it still is a bit misleading. For instance, I'd move Nadal 1 spot up and give him the 3rd place and Nole down to bottom.

Nadal has not done very well lately though. Has gone out now twice in a row in early rounds. I suppose it's a very hard transition to make from clay to grass especially when he wins so many of them. But still, I wasn't very surprised by his loss. Federer's loss in the 2nd round was the biggest surprise of the tournament for me, as I rate him quite high on grass. But of course it had to come at some point and he's turning 32 just this Thursday. He's bound to be a step and half slower at this stage.

It will be interesting to see how both Nadal and Federer fare in this hard court season leading up to USO. Both Andy and Nole are very consistent at the moment and also, this surface suits their game so it would be unlikely to see them not do well during this season.

 

[Emma]

andy is tough on grass.

I really think it's his best surface. He moves so well and looks so comfortable as if he was born to play on grass. While I was on the edge of my seat throughout the whole match vs Verdasco at Wimbledon, I was equally sure he was going to pull the win in the end - even when Verdasco was leading 2 sets to none. And I was not at all intimidated or impressed by Janowicz. He had 11 Aces and 11 DFs in that match. Personally I find him overrated. In any case, Andy knows exactly how to handle the big servers. And in fact, a lot of the time, when he is in the mood, he ends up serving more Aces than his opponent. That's just too cool but it's also deceptive because no one notices it as much.

 

[ClayDeath]

andy needed that tough test against verdasco anyway emma.

 

[herios]

Qualified players for the main draw:
Lu, Becker, Polansky, Weintraub, Goffin, Bogomolov, Matosevic

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Qualified players for the main draw:
Lu, Becker, Polansky, Weintraub, Goffin, Bogomolov, Matosevic

OK. But, when do they plan to place them in the draw?

 

[herios]

Qualified players for the main draw:
Lu, Becker, Polansky, Weintraub, Goffin, Bogomolov, Matosevic

OK. But, when do they plan to place them in the draw?

Here:

http://www.rogerscup.com/men/english/singlesDraw.php

Anymore wishes I could help you with?

 

[Iona16]

Off on holiday tomorrow so no tennis for me next week. Enjoy the tennis guys.

I'm leaving Murray in the capable hands of Clay Death. I know he can lead Andy to victory.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Off on holiday tomorrow so no tennis for me next week. Enjoy the tennis guys.

I'm leaving Murray in the capable hands of Clay Death. I know he can lead Andy to victory.

Bad Omen for Andy. Iona won't be watching.

 

[Iona16]

Off on holiday tomorrow so no tennis for me next week. Enjoy the tennis guys.

I'm leaving Murray in the capable hands of Clay Death. I know he can lead Andy to victory.

Bad Omen for Andy. Iona won't be watching.

Argh don't say that. I'm banned from checking the scores while I'm away.

I'll not be watching but Andy will know I'm with him in spirit.

 

[ClayDeath]

order of play for tomorrow:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=421

 

[Moxie]

Off on holiday tomorrow so no tennis for me next week. Enjoy the tennis guys.

I'm leaving Murray in the capable hands of Clay Death. I know he can lead Andy to victory.

Bad Omen for Andy. Iona won't be watching.

Argh don't say that. I'm banned from checking the scores while I'm away.

I'll not be watching but Andy will know I'm with him in spirit.

Yeah, don't start with that. Let everyone have their holiday. Whatever they do will happen, whether we sit in front of the TV fretting over it, or not. Iona, we'll hold down the fort for you!