BNP Paribas Open, Indian Wells, CA, 2021 - ATP Masters 1000

[Kieran]

That's the problem with MOST players outside the "Big 3!" I know we keep expecting someone to break out and take over, but they seem to falter in the following weeks or months! I already knew Taylor wouldn't be able to sustain this tennis! He had to be "zoning" out to beat anyone in the top 10; NO SHADE, just fact! He's not the only one! Just because the top 3 seeds lost in IW's doesn't mean they won't pop back while the players who beat them might fall back into obscurity! I've already spoken about Dustin Brown, Robin Soderling, and many others from the past! Robin's downfall was more about his back IIRC! The rest just couldn't keep it up after their big win! Kyrgios has the game, but not the mental strength! Same w/ Shapo! ;-)

A lot of these lads who had big upset wins only win because they could hardly lose. Even if they lost, they get kudos if they win a set, or get to a tiebreak. If they lose 1, 2 & 3, the typical reaction is to yawn, because what else did you expect?

So they can take a wild swing at things, with absolutely nothing to lose, and sometimes they even win. Watch them then, in the next match, when there’s a weight of expectation on them, and they vanish like mist. Strawballs, blowing like tumbleweeds in a cowboy town. I compare them to snipers, taking a free shot at the king, with absolutely nothing at stake from their side. Okay, so you shot the king, and the next battle is hand to hand combat in the arena, and everybody knows your name, and your face, and your own reputation is on the line?

Strawballs…

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

maybe this is the final that we did not know we all wanted.

......................................................mr a. random vs mr u. whatt.

 

[the AntiPusher]

That's the problem with MOST players outside the "Big 3!" I know we keep expecting someone to break out and take over, but they seem to falter in the following weeks or months! I already knew Taylor wouldn't be able to sustain this tennis! He had to be "zoning" out to beat anyone in the top 10; NO SHADE, just fact! He's not the only one! Just because the top 3 seeds lost in IW's doesn't mean they won't pop back while the players who beat them might fall back into obscurity! I've already spoken about Dustin Brown, Robin Soderling, and many others from the past! Robin's downfall was more about his back IIRC! The rest just couldn't keep it up after their big win! Kyrgios has the game, but not the mental strength! Same w/ Shapo! ;-)

I thought Dr. Front's Robin had Mono

 

[Fiero425]

I thought Dr. Front's Robin had Mono

I thought it was something that took him out over the usual tennis injury! Sounds good to me!

 

[El Dude]

Norrie is the second player to win a Masters this year that had previously never ranked in the top 20. His previous high (last week) was #26; Hurkacz's was #28.

 

[Kieran]

Extraordinary achievement!

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

oh yeah. the bloke from nowhere arrives with a masters title.

 

[El Dude]

Trivia question: Without looking it up, there have been five Brits to win a big title during the Open Era. Who are they?

I'll give a hint, with the year of their first big titles:

First Big Title By Brit:
2021: Cameron Norrie
2008:
2003:
1998:
1976:

 

[don_fabio]

Trivia question: Without looking it up, there have been five Brits to win a big title during the Open Era. Who are they?

I'll give a hint, with the year of their first big titles:

First Big Title By Brit:
2021: Cameron Norrie
2008:
2003:
1998:
1976:

Henman? I don't know guys before him, I'm too young

 

[El Dude]

Henman? I don't know guys before him, I'm too young

Yep. He's the 2003 slot. The 2008 slot is easy.

 

[don_fabio]

Yep. He's the 2003 slot. The 2008 slot is easy.

No need to mention 2008 is Murray. Is 1998 Rusedski maybe? I remember him...

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

Trivia question: Without looking it up, there have been five Brits to win a big title during the Open Era. Who are they?

I'll give a hint, with the year of their first big titles:

First Big Title By Brit:
2021: Cameron Norrie
2008:
2003:
1998:
1976:

2008 murray
2003 henman won paris beating fedster on the way
1998 greg rusedski
1976 maybe mark cox or buster mottram, guessing really, deffo not john lloyd tho so rule him out.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

norrie was 8-14 w/l at masters level before this tourney, now he is 14-14 lol.

 

[El Dude]

2008 murray
2003 henman won paris beating fedster on the way
1998 greg rusedski
1976 maybe mark cox or buster mottram, guessing really, deffo not john lloyd tho so rule him out.

Yep, Mark Cox. That completes the quartet.