Bartoli announces retirement (?!)

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special700 said:
No it is not stunning after she won Wimbeldon in one of the press conference she said "now I can retire." It seems as though it's just my sister and I who heard made that statement.

That's interesting. So maybe it's been on her mind a while and she weighs everything up and knows she can't match what she's done, but will have to work hard through injuries anyway...but it won't be worth it to her...
 

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It sounds like she is just burnt out.. As the poster mentioned earlier.. Why now? She could just skip the USO because of injuries but still keep her current and future endorsements. Something about this just doesn't add up.:nono
 

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nehmeth said:
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:clap :clap :clap

Marion Bartoli retires! Happy day.


:idea: Now if only Serena would get the same idea.

I am curious...why you feel like this... Bartoli game was fun to watch and Serena is playing very clean error free tennis which power that we have never seen before from the WTA tour..

No other reason than I just don't like them.

Wouldn't it just be easy for you to not watch, read or write about them?
 

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It is a shocking retirement, because she is ONLY 28, and she just won the biggest title in all of tennis. But, that being said, not everyone has to march by the same drummer. No one should be put under suspicious because they didn't retire in the "usual" or "typical" manner.

That being said, instead of putting her retirement under a cloud of suspicious, how about applauding her decision and applauding her achievements in the sport.
 

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Calvy said:
nehmeth said:
the AntiPusher said:
nehmeth said:
:clap :clap :clap

Marion Bartoli retires! Happy day.


:idea: Now if only Serena would get the same idea.

I am curious...why you feel like this... Bartoli game was fun to watch and Serena is playing very clean error free tennis which power that we have never seen before from the WTA tour..

No other reason than I just don't like them.

Wouldn't it just be easy for you to not watch, read or write about them?

Just as easy for you to put me on your ignore list. :) It's okay not to like players and it's okay to voice it too.
 

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I do not understand why so many think this is a shocking announcement.

Calvy said:
It is a shocking retirement, because she is ONLY 28, and she just won the biggest title in all of tennis.

1. Everybody quotes her age of 28. However, she has put in lot of miles as she
started early compared to others. Show me how many players her age have
played 47 grand slams.

2. She may have just won a big title. That does not add to the shock. That only
explains the retirement. One retires when they feel they are not going to
achieve much in the future. It is reasonable to assume that she will not
win another slam. Instead of wasting time and hurting herself, she choose
to retire.
 

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I always liked watching Marion's quirkiness on the court, and thought it was pretty cool that she had such a high IQ - athlethes are often not the most academically smart people. I was very surprised by the announcement but after thinking about it does sort of make sense if she really had all these nagging injuries. She really did put an incredible amount of stress on her body especially with her extra movement and her intensity. She trained and practiced and played for many years and finally tasted success at a major. She's reached the pinnacle of the sport. She's likely not going to be in another major final, so in reality she's accomplished everything she really could with her talent level. Now she's going to go do something else with her life.

I will miss that double handed forehand and the angles she could create with it, all the practicing of her strokes between points, and for some reason this sticks out. She had just lost the IW final to Wozniacki in maybe 2010, and she commented how Caro's box was full of people but then only Walter was in her box. Just the bond between father and daughter was nice to see.

Allez Marion!
 

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Calvy said:
It is a shocking retirement, because she is ONLY 28, and she just won the biggest title in all of tennis. But, that being said, not everyone has to march by the same drummer. No one should be put under suspicious because they didn't retire in the "usual" or "typical" manner.

That being said, instead of putting her retirement under a cloud of suspicious, how about applauding her decision and applauding her achievements in the sport.

Calvy.. Maid Marion( I was just starting to like that name) is leaving a lot of bread,coins, duckies, dough, euros or dollars on the table. Who does that? It doesn't make good business sense, think about it. That's just like saying that you will walk away from a job with taking your 401 k or pension. Feel me!
 

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Calvy said:
It is a shocking retirement, because she is ONLY 28, and she just won the biggest title in all of tennis. But, that being said, not everyone has to march by the same drummer. No one should be put under suspicious because they didn't retire in the "usual" or "typical" manner.

That being said, instead of putting her retirement under a cloud of suspicious, how about applauding her decision and applauding her achievements in the sport.

It maybe a shocking retirement for you, but when I heard it I was not surprise since she did say in a presser after she won Wimbledon "now I can retire." My sister and I even laughed it off, but apparently she was serious about it.
 

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Farewell to Marion Bartoli

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Marion Bartoli stunned the tennis sports world last night when she announced that her losing effort yesterday to Simona Halep at Cincinnati was the last match of her professional tennis career. The tennis world is stunned because the 28 years old French National just won her first Grand Slam title at Wimbledon just over a month ago.

During the early 1990s a young Monica Seles showed up on the Pro Tennis Circuit employing a most peculiar style of play. She was a left handed player who used both hands on the racket from both wings of the body. And, just over a decade later Marion Bartoli came on the tour with a similarly unorthodox style being a right handed player with both hands on the racket from both wings of the body. While Bartoli’s career tennis successes are not comparable to those of Monica Seles, she did achieve mediocre level successes. She reached two Grand Slam Finals with a 50% success rate. She was a Top 10 caliber player with a career high ranking of #7. She won 8 career titles, including 1 Grand Slam title. She left with a career Singles Win/Loss record of 61.1% (WTA only) and $11,042,914.00 in prize money earned.

Bartoli intimated that injury problems and tennis burnout are among the reasons for her sudden permanent departure from the sport. “My body just can’t do it anymore” Marion Bartoli explained. “I’ve already been through a lot of injuries since the beginning of the year. I’ve been on the tour for so long, and I really pushed through and left it all during Wimbledon. I really felt I gave all the energy I have left in my body,” she added. “I made my dream a reality and it will stay with me forever, but now my body just can’t cope with everything. I have pain everywhere after 45 minutes or an hour of play. I’ve been doing this for so long and body-wise I just can’t do it anymore.”

While Bartoli’s unexpected exit from the sport is sadly the subject of speculations of something sinister on the part of some tennis fans, even a cursory examination of her entire tennis career would reveal that just the sheer volume of her tennis career alone explicates the condition of her body by which she is forced to leave the sport. The volume of Bartoli’s tennis career in relation to the length of time she was on the WTA tour expounds upon her state of burnout.

Marion Bartoli turned pro in the year 2000. She played the ITF (International Tennis Federation) Junior Circuit from 1999 to 2002, plus the 2001 French Open, the 2002 Australian Open, the 2002 French Open, and the 2002 US Open. Her professional career spans a total of 306 tournaments in Singles competition and 85 Doubles tournaments. However, from 2003 when she began to play a full schedule on the tour to the time of retirement yesterday Bartoli participated in a total of 282 main draw tournaments. Yes, 282 tournaments in an 11 years period as follow:

2003 -------------------------- 26 Tournaments
2004 -------------------------- 27
2005 -------------------------- 27
2006 -------------------------- 31
2007 -------------------------- 31
2008 -------------------------- 26
2009 -------------------------- 24
2010 -------------------------- 21
2011 -------------------------- 28
2012 -------------------------- 25
2013 -------------------------- 16
Total 282.

As an aside, Serena Williams is currently on just her 162 professional Singles tournament in Cincinnati. And so, 31 years old Serena with 15 years on the tour is a fresh player compare to Marion Bartoli.

One reason why Bartoli was able to play so many tournaments is because she managed to stay healthy ever so long over the years. Until this year Bartoli did not suffer any major injury setbacks. She played in a total of 47 Grand Slam Singles, including 44 consecutive Grand Slam tournaments going back to the 2002 US Open. Now the injuries were coming frequently and Marion grows impatient and frustrated.

It is published that Marion is very much financially secure, being one of the richest tennis player in the world, thanks to not only her tennis career and the endorsements that came with it, but to her financial investments as a business woman. She is said to be worth about $158M. As such, it is quite understandable that that will enable her to make her retirement decision more easily. Moreover, perhaps Marion is ready to start a family of her own. For whatever reason though I say thanks to Marion Bartoli for the entertainment she gave us in Tennis fandom over the years. Farewell!

laj.
 

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nehmeth said:
Calvy said:
nehmeth said:
the AntiPusher said:
nehmeth said:
:clap :clap :clap

Marion Bartoli retires! Happy day.


:idea: Now if only Serena would get the same idea.

I am curious...why you feel like this... Bartoli game was fun to watch and Serena is playing very clean error free tennis which power that we have never seen before from the WTA tour..

No other reason than I just don't like them.

Wouldn't it just be easy for you to not watch, read or write about them?

Just as easy for you to put me on your ignore list. :) It's okay not to like players and it's okay to voice it too.
Exactly, ignore what you don't like. See, sometimes you answer your own issue.
 

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special700 said:
Calvy said:
It is a shocking retirement, because she is ONLY 28, and she just won the biggest title in all of tennis. But, that being said, not everyone has to march by the same drummer. No one should be put under suspicious because they didn't retire in the "usual" or "typical" manner.

That being said, instead of putting her retirement under a cloud of suspicious, how about applauding her decision and applauding her achievements in the sport.

It maybe a shocking retirement for you, but when I heard it I was not surprise since she did say in a presser after she won Wimbledon "now I can retire." My sister and I even laughed it off, but apparently she was serious about it.

Well, aside from you and your sister, it seems to have come as a surprise to the rest of the tennis world, particularly people whom in the industry that interact with her from time to time.
 

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Calvy said:
It is a shocking retirement, because she is ONLY 28, and she just won the biggest title in all of tennis. But, that being said, not everyone has to march by the same drummer. No one should be put under suspicious because they didn't retire in the "usual" or "typical" manner.

That being said, instead of putting her retirement under a cloud of suspicious, how about applauding her decision and applauding her achievements in the sport.

Calvy.. Maid Marion( I was just starting to like that name) is leaving a lot of bread,coins, duckies, dough, euros or dollars on the table. Who does that? It doesn't make good business sense, think about it. That's just like saying that you will walk away from a job with taking your 401 k or pension. Feel me!

People walk away from potential huge payoff all the time, nothing unusual about that. Heck, Pat Tillman walked away from a potential multi million dollar football career after college to join the military. Elena Dementieva left with the potential of millions more dollars to be made, same as Bjorn Borg, he was still in his prime. Fact is, it's not like you or I walking away from our jobs, because, these players, Borg, Marion and Elena, have already made miliions. And trust me, she will make many dollars on speaking engagements.
 

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Calvy said:
the AntiPusher said:
Calvy said:
It is a shocking retirement, because she is ONLY 28, and she just won the biggest title in all of tennis. But, that being said, not everyone has to march by the same drummer. No one should be put under suspicious because they didn't retire in the "usual" or "typical" manner.

That being said, instead of putting her retirement under a cloud of suspicious, how about applauding her decision and applauding her achievements in the sport.

Calvy.. Maid Marion( I was just starting to like that name) is leaving a lot of bread,coins, duckies, dough, euros or dollars on the table. Who does that? It doesn't make good business sense, think about it. That's just like saying that you will walk away from a job with taking your 401 k or pension. Feel me!

People walk away from potential huge payoff all the time, nothing unusual about that. Heck, Pat Tillman walked away from a potential multi million dollar football career after college to join the military. Elena Dementieva left with the potential of millions more dollars to be made, same as Bjorn Borg, he was still in his prime. Fact is, it's not like you or I walking away from our jobs, because, these players, Borg, Marion and Elena, have already made miliions. And trust me, she will make many dollars on speaking engagements.
Pat Tillman got killed by friendly fire, Borg is bankrupted and tried to sell his Wimbledon trophies and Elena never had endorsements like Hingis, the Williams, Sharapova or Anna K. I truly believe if Elena hung around, she would have been a grand slam winner if you look at the titles that Serena, Vika and Pova didn't claim. Marion could have taken a Serena or Rafa type of sabbatical and retired next spring or Summer like Sampras did.
 

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Calvy said:
nehmeth said:
Calvy said:
nehmeth said:
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I am curious...why you feel like this... Bartoli game was fun to watch and Serena is playing very clean error free tennis which power that we have never seen before from the WTA tour..

No other reason than I just don't like them.

Wouldn't it just be easy for you to not watch, read or write about them?

Just as easy for you to put me on your ignore list. :) It's okay not to like players and it's okay to voice it too.
Exactly, ignore what you don't like. See, sometimes you answer your own issue.

calvy, I was simply celebrating the retirement of Bartoli which (I believe) is still allowable on these boards.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Calvy said:
the AntiPusher said:
Calvy said:
It is a shocking retirement, because she is ONLY 28, and she just won the biggest title in all of tennis. But, that being said, not everyone has to march by the same drummer. No one should be put under suspicious because they didn't retire in the "usual" or "typical" manner.

That being said, instead of putting her retirement under a cloud of suspicious, how about applauding her decision and applauding her achievements in the sport.

Calvy.. Maid Marion( I was just starting to like that name) is leaving a lot of bread,coins, duckies, dough, euros or dollars on the table. Who does that? It doesn't make good business sense, think about it. That's just like saying that you will walk away from a job with taking your 401 k or pension. Feel me!

People walk away from potential huge payoff all the time, nothing unusual about that. Heck, Pat Tillman walked away from a potential multi million dollar football career after college to join the military. Elena Dementieva left with the potential of millions more dollars to be made, same as Bjorn Borg, he was still in his prime. Fact is, it's not like you or I walking away from our jobs, because, these players, Borg, Marion and Elena, have already made miliions. And trust me, she will make many dollars on speaking engagements.
Pat Tillman got killed by friendly fire, Borg is bankrupted and tried to sell his Wimbledon trophies and Elena never had endorsements like Hingis, the Williams, Sharapova or Anna K. I truly believe if Elena hung around, she would have been a grand slam winner if you look at the titles that Serena, Vika and Pova didn't claim. Marion could have taken a Serena or Rafa type of sabbatical and retired next spring or Summer like Sampras did.
lol...the point is not whether they are dead or bankrupt, it shows that it's not unusual as you stated for people to walk away from a financial windfalls. And the fact Elena never got the type of endorsements that the players you mentioned is irrelevant, she walked away from potentially millions more, and that's point.

Just for the record, Marion was never going to have the financial windfall that Maria, Caroline, Serena or Na have, because she isn't looked upon by the advertising world as being as marketable. Had Sabine won, she would have had a greater financial (endorsements) payday.

And just for the record, Dementieva, imo, would have never won a slam, just didn't have that finishing mentality...
 

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nehmeth said:
Calvy said:
nehmeth said:
Calvy said:
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No other reason than I just don't like them.

Wouldn't it just be easy for you to not watch, read or write about them?

Just as easy for you to put me on your ignore list. :) It's okay not to like players and it's okay to voice it too.
Exactly, ignore what you don't like. See, sometimes you answer your own issue.

calvy, I was simply celebrating the retirement of Bartoli which (I believe) is still allowable on these boards.
No one is knocking you for stating your glee, I just suggested, if you don't like Marion or Serena, as you also stated, then you have the option not to watch, read and comment about them.

Hey, I don't like the Dallas Cowboys, but, I don't comment on them or watch their games.
 

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nehmeth said:
Thanks calvy... had I known not commenting was an option, I would have still posted.

NO, really?!
 

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Yep. Obviously since you weren't shocked by that, then your real reason had nothing to do with giving me the option of choosing not to post, but just trying to get me to shut up. If I offended you by celebrating Marion's departure and wishing Serena's retirement, you could have just said so.