Barclays ATP World Tour Finals - Day 6

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So tough today Roger. He was bad 3 or 4 times but put it behind him each time and raised his level to cause DelPo to struggle. But DelPo was missing without Roger's help too. So Roger got some help there. DelPo definitely didn't serve well or Fed may not have stood a chance in this match. So glad to see him get this win though. Of course though, I'm not enthusiastic about his match with Rafa tomorrow. He has never lost to Rafa here. But I just don't think Fed is good enough to beat Rafa right now. Rafa is too strong. And he'll have a ton of confidence after going undefeated in the rr, even if he did play the weaker of the two fields.
 

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huntingyou said:
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Yes! He'll be destroyed tomorrow, but I'm so happy now~!

We will see about that. Hope the adrenaline keeps him energized tomorrow.

We will see, for sure nobody will destroy nobody but Rafa it's hard to "resist" when he is on a mission!

Roger has had 3 "Ok" tournaments in a row now, which is way better than the 4 months prior. It becomes a good tournament only if he makes the final here, he has no prayer vs. Nole on this surface but Rafa is a much different story.
 

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Nice to see Roger signing so many autographs.
 

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DarthFed said:
Roger has had 3 "Ok" tournaments in a row now, which is way better than the 4 months prior. It becomes a good tournament only if he makes the final here, he has no prayer vs. Nole on this surface but Rafa is a much different story.

He has a better chance against Novak than Rafa right now, not sure why you keep insisting on that line. IF and that's a big IF; Roger beats Rafa then they might as well give him the winner trophy because that would mean his level will be red lining and CONSISTENT....something a somehow tired Novak will have trouble with.
 

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He has definitely a better chance against Nadal here than Novak I agree.
 

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He's lost to Novak twice at the WTF and never lost Rafa. The stats don't lie. Novak is a much tougher opponent on indoor hard for him.
 

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huntingyou said:
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Roger has had 3 "Ok" tournaments in a row now, which is way better than the 4 months prior. It becomes a good tournament only if he makes the final here, he has no prayer vs. Nole on this surface but Rafa is a much different story.

He has a better chance against Novak than Rafa right now, not sure why you keep insisting on that line. IF and that's a big IF; Roger beats Rafa then they might as well give him the winner trophy because that would mean his level will be red lining and CONSISTENT....something a somehow tired Novak will have trouble with.

No way, not on this surface pal. Nole has beaten him easily two times in a row at this tournament. On top of the much better return and backhand than Rafa, his forehand on this surface is nearly as good as Rafa's. The redlining would have to be against Nole, I will be happy if we see some consistency tomorrow, that will give him a good chance.
 

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DarthFed said:
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Roger has had 3 "Ok" tournaments in a row now, which is way better than the 4 months prior. It becomes a good tournament only if he makes the final here, he has no prayer vs. Nole on this surface but Rafa is a much different story.

He has a better chance against Novak than Rafa right now, not sure why you keep insisting on that line. IF and that's a big IF; Roger beats Rafa then they might as well give him the winner trophy because that would mean his level will be red lining and CONSISTENT....something a somehow tired Novak will have trouble with.

No way, not on this surface pal. Nole has beaten him easily two times in a row at this tournament. On top of the much better return and backhand than Rafa, his forehand on this surface is nearly as good as Rafa's. The redlining would have to be against Nole, I will be happy if we see some consistency tomorrow, that will give him a good chance.


I said RIGHT NOW.....nobody argues from a historic and stylistic point of view, Novak presents a greater challenge indoors but I'm telling you; this is Rafa's time and you will be a fool to think the 0-4 record or Rafa's relative poor results has any bearing on what he is bringing tomorrow to the SF.
 

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Enjoyed the post match analysis with Mark Petchey going through points on the tv with Roger.
 

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I wonder what this evenings match will bring...
 

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huntingyou said:
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huntingyou said:
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Roger has had 3 "Ok" tournaments in a row now, which is way better than the 4 months prior. It becomes a good tournament only if he makes the final here, he has no prayer vs. Nole on this surface but Rafa is a much different story.

He has a better chance against Novak than Rafa right now, not sure why you keep insisting on that line. IF and that's a big IF; Roger beats Rafa then they might as well give him the winner trophy because that would mean his level will be red lining and CONSISTENT....something a somehow tired Novak will have trouble with.

No way, not on this surface pal. Nole has beaten him easily two times in a row at this tournament. On top of the much better return and backhand than Rafa, his forehand on this surface is nearly as good as Rafa's. The redlining would have to be against Nole, I will be happy if we see some consistency tomorrow, that will give him a good chance.


I said RIGHT NOW.....nobody argues from a historic and stylistic point of view, Novak presents a greater challenge indoors but I'm telling you; this is Rafa's time and you will be a fool to think the 0-4 record or Rafa's relative poor results has any bearing on what he is bringing tomorrow to the SF.

Guess we'll find out tomorrow. One/many of us is/are gonna be cleaning a big wad of egg off their face(s) anyway :cool:
 

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huntingyou said:
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huntingyou said:
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Roger has had 3 "Ok" tournaments in a row now, which is way better than the 4 months prior. It becomes a good tournament only if he makes the final here, he has no prayer vs. Nole on this surface but Rafa is a much different story.

He has a better chance against Novak than Rafa right now, not sure why you keep insisting on that line. IF and that's a big IF; Roger beats Rafa then they might as well give him the winner trophy because that would mean his level will be red lining and CONSISTENT....something a somehow tired Novak will have trouble with.

No way, not on this surface pal. Nole has beaten him easily two times in a row at this tournament. On top of the much better return and backhand than Rafa, his forehand on this surface is nearly as good as Rafa's. The redlining would have to be against Nole, I will be happy if we see some consistency tomorrow, that will give him a good chance.


I said RIGHT NOW.....nobody argues from a historic and stylistic point of view, Novak presents a greater challenge indoors but I'm telling you; this is Rafa's time and you will be a fool to think the 0-4 record or Rafa's relative poor results has any bearing on what he is bringing tomorrow to the SF.

Well we agree on that, though for my money it is the opposite: the 4-0 has no bearing on how Roger will play tomorrow. Rafa's game plan and limitations on this court will be the same as always, we will see if Roger can bring a decent level consistently. The up and down way he played today won't get it done.
 

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Kieran said:
I wonder what this evenings match will bring...

If Djoker's smart he'd damn near tank it. He could be tired come Sunday if Stan pushes him at all tomorrow. 200 ranking points is nice but it might hurt his chances at many more ranking points and a big trophy come Sunday.
 

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Kieran said:
I wonder what this evenings match will bring...

Kinda no interest watching it personally as Gasquet is out and Novak's already won his group. The match we just watched decided who went to the semi. Nothing to play for but pride in tonight's match, which makes it way less interesting imo.
 

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DarthFed said:
huntingyou said:
DarthFed said:
huntingyou said:
DarthFed said:
Roger has had 3 "Ok" tournaments in a row now, which is way better than the 4 months prior. It becomes a good tournament only if he makes the final here, he has no prayer vs. Nole on this surface but Rafa is a much different story.

He has a better chance against Novak than Rafa right now, not sure why you keep insisting on that line. IF and that's a big IF; Roger beats Rafa then they might as well give him the winner trophy because that would mean his level will be red lining and CONSISTENT....something a somehow tired Novak will have trouble with.

No way, not on this surface pal. Nole has beaten him easily two times in a row at this tournament. On top of the much better return and backhand than Rafa, his forehand on this surface is nearly as good as Rafa's. The redlining would have to be against Nole, I will be happy if we see some consistency tomorrow, that will give him a good chance.


I said RIGHT NOW.....nobody argues from a historic and stylistic point of view, Novak presents a greater challenge indoors but I'm telling you; this is Rafa's time and you will be a fool to think the 0-4 record or Rafa's relative poor results has any bearing on what he is bringing tomorrow to the SF.

Well we agree on that, though for my money it is the opposite: the 4-0 has no bearing on how Roger will play tomorrow. Rafa's game plan and limitations on this court will be the same as always, we will see if Roger can bring a decent level consistently. The up and down way he played today won't get it done.

That's a happy medium I can live with.....we''ll see if Rafa can expand on his limitations, perhaps his CC backhand will be a place to start ;)
 

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Novak will not tank, 200 points and 140k plus the fact he is a proud guy.....c'mon what the deal with the tanking talk??
 

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DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
I wonder what this evenings match will bring...

If Djoker's smart he'd damn near tank it. He could be tired come Sunday if Stan pushes him at all tomorrow. 200 ranking points is nice but it might hurt his chances at many more ranking points and a big trophy come Sunday.

I think the fans pay too much money for players to tank it. I would be disgusted. But what about playing like an exhibition and going out to entertain?
 

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huntingyou said:
Novak will not tank, 200 points and 140k plus the fact he is a proud guy.....c'mon what the deal with the tanking talk??

I know, it's been creeping in here on almost every match. Apparently Rafa tanked last night and still won! :huh: