Australian Open 2023 F: Novak Djokovic vs. Stefanos Tsitsipas

[Moxie]

I rarely seen such a case of hypothermia crossed with a bulging fever, the ability to throw fully grown sofas through windows while screaming in tongues. I’m surprised you’re able to type in that strait jacket they stuck you in!

@tented paid my bail at Ryker's for disorderly conduct. (Thank you, Venmo!) My court date coincides with Monte Carlo. Wish me luck!

 

[Kieran]

@tented paid my bail at Ryker's for disorderly conduct. (Thank you, Venmo!) My court date coincides with Monte Carlo. Wish me luck!

How’s your liver holding up? I seen the doctor had to remove your heart because it was broke in a million pieces, and told you to use your liver instead. That was busy at the time processing baths of brandy. The human body is remarkable the way it withstands such pain!

 

[Jelenafan]

At least Novak’s dad didn’t wave the Russian flag during the awards ceremony…so small blessings. ; )

 

[Moxie]

How’s your liver holding up? I seen the doctor had to remove your heart because it was broke in a million pieces, and told you to use your liver instead. That was busy at the time processing baths of brandy. The human body is remarkable the way it withstands such pain!

It's good, especially as I didn't need to drink the can of espresso martini that was given to me as a swag gift on my recent job. That seems like a defibrillator in a can! Heart not broken. Heart still quite valiant, as it happens.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

This is from Mats Medicated Wilander's analogy on why you can easily compare the record of Djokovic's 10 AO Opens with Rafa Nafal's 14 French Opens....
" If you win 10 AO on hard, that means you have to beat maybe the best field in tennis because everybody knows how to play on hard courts"....fathom that out at your own leisure

 

[Moxie]

This is from Mats Medicated Wilander's analogy on why you can easily compare the record of Djokovic's 10 AO Opens with Rafa Nafal's 14 French Opens....
" I you win 10 AO on hard, that means you have to beat maybe the best field in tennis because everybody knows how to play on hard courts"....fathom that out at your own leisure

Once again, the endless lessening of clay over hards. I know you think Mats is an idiot. Some will always use that to weaken Rafa's astonishing accomplishments. Hey, 10 is amazing at the AO for Novak. La Décima, as it were. Nice round number. But, still a long way to go for THAT record.

 

[roberto]

I'm not getting into the numerical equivalency issue which I think is a silly concept to start with, but understand Mats' reasoning. Whether it's borne out statistically is another matter....

 

[Moxie]

I'm not getting into the numerical equivalency issue which I think is a silly concept to start with, but understand Mats' reasoning. Whether it's borne out statistically is another matter....

So where are you going with this, then? You just don't know?

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Once again, the endless lessening of clay over hards. I know you think Mats is an idiot. Some will always use that to weaken Rafa's astonishing accomplishments. Hey, 10 is amazing at the AO for Novak. La Décima, as it were. Nice round number. But, still a long way to go for THAT record.

The thing with Mats is, he changes his opinions like the wind, Novak winning 10 AO is a great accomplishment, to offer that analogy over Rafa with 14 titles at RG is weakening Rafa's record, clay is the hardest surface to win.You can bet your house on it, if Rafa happens to win at RG this year with No 15, Mats will come out with another mind blowing analogy

 

[dante1976]

You are not going to like this

50 things Djokovic has over Nadal:

 

[dante1976]

And a little bit more

- He is also the oldest year ending number one.
- Only player to win at least 80 matches at all four slams
- Only player to make at least 7 slam semis all four slams
- Only player to win at least 7 slams at two different events
- Only player to win at least 7 slams at different events on different surfaces (Hard,Grass)
- Only player to win four slams in a row on three different surfaces
- Most Sunshine Doubles - 4 (2011,2014,2015,2016)
- Most consecutive Sunshine Doubles ( 2014,2015,2016)
- Most AO-IW-Miami triples ( 2011, 2015, 2016)
- Most big titles won in a row on the calendar - 7 ( USO 2015, Shanghai 2015, Paris 2015, WTF 2015, AO 2016, IW 2016, Miami 2016)
- Only player to win the first four big events of the season - (AO 2015, IW 2015, Miami 2015, Monte Carlo 2015)
- Only player to win the first three masters of the season (IW, Miami, Monte Carlo 2015)
- Longest time between first and last YEC win - 14 years

Djokovic also owns the record for the most consecutive appearances in big titles finals in events played - 17 big finals in 17 big events played....

Paris 2014, YEC 2014, AO 2015, IW 2015, Miami 2015, MC 2015, Rome 2015, RG 2015, Canada 2015, Cincy 2015, USO 2015, Shanghai 2015, Paris 2015, YEC 2015, AO 2016, IW 2016, Miami 2016

 

[dante1976]

I promise it's a last one

Djoker vs Rafa

- More grass titles overall
- More grass slams
- More HC titles overall
- More HC slams
- More Indoor titles overall
- Djokovic also dethroned all of Nadal's 2010 wins ( Monte Carlo 2010 - dethroned in 2013, Madrid 2010 - dethroned in 2011, Rome 2010 - dethroned in 2011, RG 2010 - dethroned in 2015, Wimbledon 2010 - dethroned in 2011, USO 2010 - dethroned in 2011)
- Beaten Nadal at all four major clay events ( MC, Madrid, Rome, RG)
- Beaten Nadal in all clay masters finals ( MC 2013, Madrid 2011, Rome 2011, 2014)
- After losing in his first ever Masters final in IW 2007, Djokovic has never lost a masters final on HC to Nadal again, and only actually lost one match on HC in masters play in Montreal 2013
- Two winning streaks of 7-0 against Nadal across all surfaces.
- Djokovic is also the first and only player to beat the world number one (Nadal) in five consecutive finals ( IW 2011, Miami 2011, Madrid 2011, Rome 2011, Wimbledon 2011)
- Djokovic is only player to beat the same player in the final in three consecutive slams, that being Nadal ( Wimbledon 2011, USO 2011, AO 2012)

A couple of more trival ones

Djokovic has not lost on HC in over 9 years, he is 19-0 in sets played
Djokovic has not lost on grass in over 14 years
Djokovic has straight set Nadal at two different slams on different surfaces ( RG 2015, AO 2019)
Djokovic has won more sets against Nadal at MC and are tied 2-2
Djokovic has beaten Nadal at all four slams, the opposite is not true
Djokovic is only player to beat Nadal multiple times in clay slams
Djokovic only player to have dethroned Nadal twice at RG (2015, 2021)
Djokovic has wins over Nadal at 8 of the 9 masters, with the 9th being Shanghai, where they have not played
Djokovic has perfect records over Nadal at AO, Miami, Cincinnati and Paris
Djokovic only player to beat Nadal both outdoors (2011) and indoors (2018) at Wimbledon
Djokovic is only player to beat Nadal at RG and then win the title
Djokovic has a DCS which includes a win over Nadal at RG, the opposite for Nadal having a win over Djokovic at AO is not true
Djokovic has defended slams on two different surfaces at two different venues
Djokovic has won three slams in a row at two different events, Nadal only at one.

 

[Moxie]

Djokovic has not lost on HC in over 9 years, he is 19-0 in sets played

Not having time to fact-check all of that, but Djokovic lost in Dubai, which is HC, just last February. Surely he played more than 19 sets in 9 years on HC. I'm curious about your stats.

 

[Moxie]

Djokovic has not lost on grass in over 14 years

Actually, he lost to Sam Querrey at Wimbledon in 2016. That was 6 and a half years ago. Do we have to go through all of this?

 

[Moxie]

Djokovic has straight set Nadal at two different slams on different surfaces ( RG 2015, AO 2019)

And Nadal has straight-setted Djokovic at Slams 4 times, on two different surfaces:

2007 RG
2007 W
2008 RG
2020 RG

At least that. Let's be honest: you just copied that stuff off of the internet, and you didn't really look at it. By barely looking at it, myself, it's a combination of completely inaccurate, with a lot of misleading in there. And some Djokovic fans just gave those a "like" without looking at them, either.

 

[dante1976]

Actually, he lost to Sam Querrey at Wimbledon in 2016. That was 6 and a half years ago. Do we have to go through all of this?

Vs Nadal

 

[dante1976]

Not having time to fact-check all of that, but Djokovic lost in Dubai, which is HC, just last February. Surely he played more than 19 sets in 9 years on HC. I'm curious about your stats.

vs Nadal

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[dante1976]

And Nadal has straight-setted Djokovic at Slams 4 times, on two different surfaces:

2007 RG
2007 W
2008 RG
2020 RG

At least that. Let's be honest: you just copied that stuff off of the internet

For sure.... I didnt double checked them all but... with equal slam count Novak is just way more dominant in stats against Rafa (apart RG of course)

 

[Moxie]

Vs Nadal

vs Nadal

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Well, that was rather buried, wasn't it? But don't think I won't fact-check it, with the rest of your dicey facts.

 

[Moxie]

For sure.... I didnt double checked them all but... with equal slam count Novak is just way more dominant in stats against Rafa (apart RG of course)

Let's face it, you posted a laundry-list of "facts," and they're not all right. And you say that "Novak is way more dominant in stats against Rafa (apart from RG, of course.) Well, let's see if that's true, based on your list, and also, why do you get to put Roland Garros aside? You don't, actually. It IS a Major, and the statics from it count.