ATP World Tour Finals 2017, London, UK

[DarthFed]

Conjugate "AMO" down to the "Past Perfect Future!"

You remember that shit way better than me man haha

 

[DarthFed]

Come on Front and Fed fans. Show some class

I complemented him on his English already.

I will give one other complement; I love watching Rafa play when he loses.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Come on Front and Fed fans. Show some class

I take it on my broad shoulders, the responsibility of showing some class.

Congrats to Rafa for achieving the YE #1 ranking in 2017. This is his fourth time to finish YE #1. With this
in one stroke, he created the following records.

1. He is the first player to finish YE #1 after the age of 30.
2. He is the first player to finish YE#1 four or more years after doing so the last time (He last did it in 2013).
3. He is the first player to finish YE #1 nine or more years after first doing so. (He first did it in 2008).
4. He is the first player to finish YE #1 in four non-consecutive years. (Most people usually have a streak of at least two).

Way to go Rafa!

p.s. Let us hope this is the last time as well.

 

[Fiero425]

You remember that shit way better than me man haha

The older I get, the more I'm likely to remember something inane from the 70's, but at the same time I have to think when asked to give my address and cell #! History is more ingrained in my head than current events and celebrity! If Beyoncé wasn't talked about on the news, I wouldn't even know her! I can still see myself sitting in class conjugating verbs & declining nouns; I be, you be, he be, we be, they be!

 

[brokenshoelace]

Man, Rafa has so much fake hair!
Chia pet treatment is working!

It's actually real hair. Apparently they just take the hair from the back of your head, where it will grow back, and surgically place it on the balding area. The root of the hair would be placed in that area and the hair would grow normally. The things money can buy.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Speaking of laughable - today the ATP posted the stat for the 8 players vs. Top 10 opponents. I just shook my head a the ineptness of 5 of the other 6. I'm cutting Zverev some slack because he's only 20...

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lol, Roger's career record against top 10 players is absolutely ridiculous. Jesus.

 

[DarthFed]

Cilic is going to win this one. I think that's going to be a tough one for Roger. I think Cilic is his biggest threat in the tournament not just his group.

 

[Fiero425]

lol, Roger's career record against top 10 players is absolutely ridiculous. Jesus.

But isn't Nole's even more ridiculous; actually surpassing Borg for a time! He set a record of defeating 35 or so top 10 players a couple years ago! Fed's the best, Nadal had his time owning him, and Nole has records that surpass them both! This has been some time to be around watching tennis! I always thought the 90's were the most competitive with so many major winners! At any given time you would have 10 to 12 GS winners in a tournament from Andres Gomes upsetting Agassi to take FO in 1990 to Kafelnikov's AO win in '99! Fedalovicray have owned this era lock, stock, and barrel for the most part, taking us back to a bygone era of the 20's when Tilden was unbeatable for a decade! This era has the best talent, but the weakest competition allowing 4 players to own the tour! That's ridiculous and gutless as far as I'm concerned! Today's players just don't seem to know how to finish off a "top echeloner," allowing them to dodge multiple match points and thereby crushing their competitive spirits! :cuckoo:

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Sasha breaks Cilic at love in the last game to win the match.

Sasha will play Fed next.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

It's actually real hair. Apparently they just take the hair from the back of your head, where it will grow back, and surgically place it on the balding area. The root of the hair would be placed in that area and the hair would grow normally. The things money can buy.

I know the details of the treatment. I meant fake in the sense of not naturally occurring. It is indeed real hair and it is his own hair too.

 

[Moxie]

Cilic is going to win this one. I think that's going to be a tough one for Roger. I think Cilic is his biggest threat in the tournament not just his group.

Cilic's weak head and Sasha's gritty play at the end, and Sasha takes it!

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Cilic's weak head and Sasha's gritty play at the end, and Sasha takes it!

Sasha is 4-0 over Cilic now.

 

[Moxie]

Sasha is 4-0 over Cilic now.

I read earlier that you like Cilic to get out of this group. I would have said Zverev before today, anyway, but I'd like Sasha to get through, with Roger. He has looked a bit like the strain of the year was getting to him, in this last phase, but he stepped up at the end today. I like his commitment to the win.

 

[shawnbm]

I take it on my broad shoulders, the responsibility of showing some class.

Congrats to Rafa for achieving the YE #1 ranking in 2017. This is his fourth time to finish YE #1. With this
in one stroke, he created the following records.

1. He is the first player to finish YE #1 after the age of 30.
2. He is the first player to finish YE#1 four or more years after doing so the last time (He last did it in 2013).
3. He is the first player to finish YE #1 nine or more years after first doing so. (He first did it in 2008).
4. He is the first player to finish YE #1 in four non-consecutive years. (Most people usually have a streak of at least two).

Way to go Rafa!

p.s. Let us hope this is the last time as well.

No matter how you want to try and slice that, and this goes out to all fans of tennis, including the Federer fans, that is quite an impressive statistical rundown. I think that it is a testament to what many of us, this writer included, did not believe was possible for this particular all-time great player – – that he would be able to excel into his 30s. I did not believe Rafael Nadal could do he did this; meaning do what he did this year. As strange as it may seem, because of the age difference, I feel it was MORE unlikely that Rafa could return to number one and win two slams at 30 and 31 years of age, compared to Roger winning at 35 and 36 years of age two slam some one year. To me, it is less surprising that Roger did he did then Rafael this year. That being said, to me – – precisely because of the age and how far Federer had dropped in the rankings (went from 17 to 2) – is the player of the year in addition to being comeback player of the year. I never thought I would ever see two players that could be mentioned as influential and meaningful to the sport as guys like lever, Connor’s, Oregon, McEnroe, etc. These two guys are there if not higher.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Some people were commenting as to whether Sasha would regret skipping Next Gen Event. I said no, he would not.
Chung won $390,000 for being the undefeated champion at Milan. The participation fee in London is $191,000 (that is
how much you get, for making the cut and showing up). Each RR win fetches $191,000. So, Sasha has almost already
equaled Chung's earnings (not to mention that he got 200 points today and there no points at stake in Milan).

 

[Ricardo]

But isn't Nole's even more ridiculous; actually surpassing Borg for a time! He set a record of defeating 35 or so top 10 players a couple years ago! Fed's the best, Nadal had his time owning him, and Nole has records that surpass them both! This has been some time to be around watching tennis! I always thought the 90's were the most competitive with so many major winners! At any given time you would have 10 to 12 GS winners in a tournament from Andres Gomes upsetting Agassi to take FO in 1990 to Kafelnikov's AO win in '99! Fedalovicray have owned this era lock, stock, and barrel for the most part, taking us back to a bygone era of the 20's when Tilden was unbeatable for a decade! This era has the best talent, but the weakest competition allowing 4 players to own the tour! That's ridiculous and gutless as far as I'm concerned! Today's players just don't seem to know how to finish off a "top echeloner," allowing them to dodge multiple match points and thereby crushing their competitive spirits! :cuckoo:

allowing top players to dodge multiple match points is not limited to just those players, Federer has done it the most.....vs Safin 2005 AO, vs Nadal 2006 Rome, vs Delpo 2009 USO, vs Djokovic 2010, 2011USO, just off the top of my head. No other top player has blown so many big matches, for a while i thought Fed may be close to a bit of a choker. Don't think Nadal has ever done that at that level, and Novak may have had 1 but no more.

 

[Moxie]

Some people were commenting as to whether Sasha would regret skipping Next Gen Event. I said no, he would not.
Chung won $390,000 for being the undefeated champion at Milan. The participation fee in London is $191,000 (that is
how much you get, for making the cut and showing up). Each RR win fetches $191,000. So, Sasha has almost already
equaled Chung's earnings (not to mention that he got 200 points today and there no points at stake in Milan).

If Sasha had played that, just to be greedy, or whatever, he would almost certainly have lost today. (Or tomorrow, if they'd accommodated him by having his group play second.) He's committed to playing with the Big Boys and he's ranked #3 in the world. It would have been foolish. I don't mean to totally disrespect the #NextGen tournament, but it was a bit of a dog-and-pony show and experiment theatre for the ATP. They barely let us watch it.

 

[Moxie]

Fedalovicray have owned this era lock, stock, and barrel for the most part, taking us back to a bygone era of the 20's when Tilden was unbeatable for a decade! This era has the best talent, but the weakest competition allowing 4 players to own the tour! That's ridiculous and gutless as far as I'm concerned! Today's players just don't seem to know how to finish off a "top echeloner," allowing them to dodge multiple match points and thereby crushing their competitive spirits! :cuckoo:

I don't know that you can praise these top 4 as the best and then decry the weakness of their opponents as complete folders. Also, Ricardo seems to know something about the "multiple match points" lost, (above.) Rafa, Novak and Murray have all credited Fed and their otherwise top opponents with making them be better. If the rest of the field can't step up to that level, or more than occasionally, well, it's because they're barely at the hem of the gowns. You can't really have both, I don't think.

 

[Moxie]

No matter how you want to try and slice that, and this goes out to all fans of tennis, including the Federer fans, that is quite an impressive statistical rundown. I think that it is a testament to what many of us, this writer included, did not believe was possible for this particular all-time great player – – that he would be able to excel into his 30s. I did not believe Rafael Nadal could do he did this; meaning do what he did this year. As strange as it may seem, because of the age difference, I feel it was MORE unlikely that Rafa could return to number one and win two slams at 30 and 31 years of age, compared to Roger winning at 35 and 36 years of age two slam some one year. To me, it is less surprising that Roger did he did then Rafael this year. That being said, to me – – precisely because of the age and how far Federer had dropped in the rankings (went from 17 to 2) – is the player of the year in addition to being comeback player of the year. I never thought I would ever see two players that could be mentioned as influential and meaningful to the sport as guys like lever, Connor’s, Oregon, McEnroe, etc. These two guys are there if not higher.

This is good of you. You're always complimentary of Rafa...and it was good of @GameSetAndMath to put it up. As to the YE#1, or frankly, even #1 again, I don't even think most Rafa fans thought that would happen again. It has been a trope in tennis since before Rafa was 26 that he'd be finished early, especially with his early prodigiousness, not even just playing style. And it's been a question he's been tired of hearing. But here he still is. I do think he and Roger have become perhaps the two most influential players in the modern era, for a lot of reasons. I'm thinking by "Oregon" you meant "Borg?" Damned auto-correct. :lulz2:

 

[Ricardo]

I don't know that you can praise these top 4 as the best and then decry the weakness of their opponents as complete folders. Also, Ricardo seems to know something about the "multiple match points" lost, (above.) Rafa, Novak and Murray have all credited Fed and their otherwise top opponents with making them be better. If the rest of the field can't step up to that level, or more than occasionally, well, it's because they're barely at the hem of the gowns. You can't really have both, I don't think.

exactly, he likes to cry out of nothing and he is even incorrect on things he's crying about. So the more the top players dominate, the less competitive it becomes.....how can you whinge about that?