AO Mens Final: Novak Djokovic v Rafael Nadal

[MargaretMcAleer]

Just finished watching the final,

Just a clinical performance from Novak,congratulations on winning your 15th GS title and surpassing Emerson's AO record with 7th AO titles.

 

[Andy22]

You can't win and this is just as dumb as McEnroe's moaning. Djokovic got less match play 'cos of Nishikori's retirement which was a lot worse really 'cos he hadn't been tested at all. Nadal gets 2 days rest and the Nadal camp moan that he had too much time off and it broke his rhythm and other times he gets too little rest and you say he's not fresh for the final like the bs claim in 2017. It can't be both. :cuckoo:

Tons of Nadal fans were claiming he'd win this and that his performance had been amazing even when the more level headed people said there's a world of difference between playing nobodies and looking great and playing Djokovic. Guess who were right.

Its easy to be right than nadal has not played for four months, so chill out you finally got one right remember RGA vs. Tsitsipas, I made you look like a fool. Also nadal still a Two slams ahead of djokovic and still won the last two matches against Djokovic on clay.

 

[Andy22]

Nadal going to win multiple slams this season, as well nadal will destroy federer easy if they play this season, and will do the something to djokovic on clay. So nadal most likely wins two out of the last three slams this season easy.

 

[tented]

I was actually surprised that Djokovic did well at net today. I figured if there was a spot that Nadal would have edged Djokovic was at net, but Djokovic actually made him pay there. I don’t think there was anything Nadal would have been able to do to change the outcome. Novak was locked in from start to finish and was doing everything well today. That return was like warm knife through butter today. We will see what happens at the French.

Great to see you @Sundaymorningguy

 

[Front242]

Its easy to be right than nadal has not played for four months, so chill out you finally got one right remember RGA vs. Tsitsipas, I made you look like a fool. Also nadal still a Two slams ahead of djokovic and still won the last two matches against Djokovic on clay.

LOL at you making me look like a fool. That'll never happen. Mark my words. Just yesterday you said Nadal was the best player all tournament and now you're making excuses that's he's been out 4 months and way past his prime. I'm off to sleep before I piss myself laughing at this nonsense.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

rafa started the match by defecating into the back of his underpants..

it is v difficult for him to win with his knickers clogged up with shit.

so he lost.

 

[Andy22]

LOL at you making me look like a fool. That'll never happen. Mark my words. Just yesterday you said Nadal was the best player all tournament and now you're making excuses that's he's been out 4 months and way past his prime. I'm off to sleep before I piss myself laughing at this nonsense.

I never said nadal was going to win AO I just said he was the best player of the event, also nadal is injured why do you that think he could not defend in that match. its a statistical fact that nadal is way out of his prime, since 2013 the facts say that, plus federer would have got destroyed as well just like he did at Cincinnati where he looked like a joke.

 

[Andy22]

Federer fan boys forget that this happened to federer as well in the dubai final 2011 3-6 3-6 to djokovic. And also most worst match ever played in a grand slam final by federer 1-6 3-6 0-6 loss.

 

[Mastoor]

First of all, I’d like to congratulate No1e’s fans on this success. Record 7th AO, 3rd consecutive slam and 15th career slam. We worked very hard for it. ;-)



I also congratulate to Fed’s fans. As soon as they got Rafa they wished for, one who goes for a kill in first couple of shots and whom many called unbeatable, he got easily pulverised by No1e in the final. It must be quadruple joy for them.



I’ve found funny that many experts expected a long match, whilst I sensed it would be a 3 setter. Even No1e in his interviews talked about 2012 match and mentioned a possibility of a long final this time. I knew he said that only because so many people expected it, but he knew he can beat Nadal quickly. My only doubt was because he really blew that final in London against Zverev when everyone expected him to win easily, but then I thought, if he screwed up there, he won’t do it this time again.



They talked about Nadal’s improved service and also standing closer to the baseline which all allowed him to go for a winner earlier in the point. Even though, I don’t think his service was as good as USO10, he really looked very impressive to me, but that’s the case with him with all that facial expressions, mannerism, muscles, fist pumping, loudness and all, in addition to exceptional play, he must look very impressive to everyone.



No1e’s game, on the other hand, looked very impressive too, especially in the semi final. If you compared the stats of the two semifinals, you could have concluded that the better player was actually No1e. Even some experts suggested that No1e should win in 3 or 4 sets because he is actually stronger and faster than Nadal.



I can’t say I was disappointed to hear Nadal saying he wasn’t 100% physically during the match even there was absolutely nothing to suggest that during the match or in last two weeks. He lost 28 times to No1e and I don’t remember any loss when Nadal was 100% physically, do you?



Points wise, No1e is now far in front and even with only 5 tournaments he intends to play before Wimbledon (IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome, RG), he is likely to remain #1 until then, at least.

 

[atttomole]

First of all, I’d like to congratulate No1e’s fans on this success. Record 7th AO, 3rd consecutive slam and 15th career slam. We worked very hard for it. ;-)



I also congratulate to Fed’s fans. As soon as they got Rafa they wished for, one who goes for a kill in first couple of shots and whom many called unbeatable, he got easily pulverised by No1e in the final. It must be quadruple joy for them.



I’ve found funny that many experts expected a long match, whilst I sensed it would be a 3 setter. Even No1e in his interviews talked about 2012 match and mentioned a possibility of a long final this time. I knew he said that only because so many people expected it, but he knew he can beat Nadal quickly. My only doubt was because he really blew that final in London against Zverev when everyone expected him to win easily, but then I thought, if he screwed up there, he won’t do it this time again.



They talked about Nadal’s improved service and also standing closer to the baseline which all allowed him to go for a winner earlier in the point. Even though, I don’t think his service was as good as USO10, he really looked very impressive to me, but that’s the case with him with all that facial expressions, mannerism, muscles, fist pumping, loudness and all, in addition to exceptional play, he must look very impressive to everyone.



No1e’s game, on the other hand, looked very impressive too, especially in the semi final. If you compared the stats of the two semifinals, you could have concluded that the better player was actually No1e. Even some experts suggested that No1e should win in 3 or 4 sets because he is actually stronger and faster than Nadal.



I can’t say I was disappointed to hear Nadal saying he wasn’t 100% physically during the match even there was absolutely nothing to suggest that during the match or in last two weeks. He lost 28 times to No1e and I don’t remember any loss when Nadal was 100% physically, do you?



Points wise, No1e is now far in front and even with only 5 tournaments he intends to play before Wimbledon (IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome, RG), he is likely to remain #1 until then, at least.

I don't think Rafa said he wasn't 100% fit.

 

[Mastoor]

But he did.

 

[atttomole]

Do you have a link for that? I think he should not have said that, considering how well he is playing.

 

[Mastoor]

I don't have a link, but if you find videos to what he said after the match you'll definitely hear it.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

Points wise, No1e is now far in front and even with only 5 tournaments he intends to play before Wimbledon (IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome, RG), he is likely to remain #1 until then, at least.

Novak skipping Micky Carlo?

 

[mrzz]

I don't have a link, but if you find videos to what he said after the match you'll definitely hear it.

Mastoor, I happen to hear a good bit of the Nadal presser and also the full on court speech. I think what he said was slightly different than "not 100% physically". He said that, coming back from injury, he still hasn't played, defensively, at the level that he needed to play today. In other words (also his own), that he was lacking match play at the highest level, that would allow him to have something "extra", being that extra fundamental to be able to compete with Djokovic at the level he played. Or something along those lines.

Yes, it is a bit odd, but all in all I guess it was ok in the end. He summarized by saying that if he had that something extra the match would have been more competitive and that maybe he would have a chance. Maybe it started out as an excuse but he corrected it mid-flight.

But I haven't seen 100% of the interview so maybe in some other bit he said he wasn't 100%, but it would not be coherent with the part I heard.

 

[shawnbm]

I must say it was shocking to get up at 5:30 in the morning, turn on the television and see the mighty Spanish Bull being decimated like that. I have since watched the match and I can see that Novak was hitting on all cylinders and Nadal was not playing his best, but certainly well enough to probably compete with the top echelon in Tennis. Novak can dobthat to him. Nothing but his best could’ve competed today. Congratulations to Novak and all of his many fans. The Spanish Bull will be back once the red clay is under his feet. But the Serbian Slayer will be a mighty difficult hurdle for Rafa even, as there could a mental scar after this one.

 

[Carol]

Mastoor, I happen to hear a good bit of the Nadal presser and also the full on court speech. I think what he said was slightly different than "not 100% physically". He said that, coming back from injury, he still hasn't played, defensively, at the level that he needed to play today. In other words (also his own), that he was lacking match play at the highest level, that would allow him to have something "extra", being that extra fundamental to be able to compete with Djokovic at the level he played. Or something along those lines.

Yes, it is a bit odd, but all in all I guess it was ok in the end. He summarized by saying that if he had that something extra the match would have been more competitive and that maybe he would have a chance. Maybe it started out as an excuse but he corrected it mid-flight.

But I haven't seen 100% of the interview so maybe in some other bit he said he wasn't 100%, but it would be coherent with the part I heard.

 

[Carol]

I must say it was shocking to get up at 5:30 in the morning, turn on the television and see the mighty Spanish Bull being decimated like that. I have since watched the match and I can see that Novak was hitting on all cylinders and Nadal was not playing his best, but certainly well enough to probably compete with the top echelon in Tennis. Novak can dobthat to him. Nothing but his best could’ve competed today. Congratulations to Novak and all of his many fans. The Spanish Bull will be back once the red clay is under his feet. But the Serbian Slayer will be a mighty difficult hurdle for Rafa even, as there could a mental scar after this one.

Well. it depending how each one is seeing that loss but I can tell you that I don't think Nadal could have a mental scar after this one and why.
Nadal came back from two injuries, first his knee in the USO and second the surgery of his ankle which took him almost 5 months to be out of the court . Even that he has played an excellent tournament but not enough to compite against an opponent who has not stopped to play (after his elbow surgery only one month o less) and been at 100% physically and of course mentally too. Remember they are not twenty something anymore, look how bad Novak played in IW 2018, Miami and the clay season until the grass season. I think that Rafa has played much better but too bad against Novak who has taken a hug advantage of it, he needed that 'punch' they have when they are on track and he wasn't

 

[Moxie]

Well. it depending how each one is seeing that loss but I can tell you that I don't think Nadal could have a mental scar after this one and why.
Nadal came back from two injuries, first his knee in the USO and second the surgery of his ankle which took him almost 5 months to be out of the court . Even that he has played an excellent tournament but not enough to compite against an opponent who has not stopped to play (after his elbow surgery only one month o less) and been at 100% physically and of course mentally too. Remember they are not twenty something anymore, look how bad Novak played in IW 2018, Miami and the clay season until the grass season. I think that Rafa has played much better but too bad against Novak who has taken a hug advantage of it, he needed that 'punch' they have when they are on track and he wasn't

It's quite clear that Rafa has some mental scars from Novak. That's what lost him the 2018 Wimbledon SF, which likely cost him the title. It can happen. Rafa did it to Roger. Djokovic was untouchable today, fair enough, but let's not pretend he's not in Rafa's head. Still, clay is a different story, so no need to lose heart.

 

[Carol]

It's quite clear that Rafa has some mental scars from Novak. That's what lost him the 2018 Wimbledon SF, which likely cost him the title. It can happen. Rafa did it to Roger. Djokovic was untouchable today, fair enough, but let's not pretend he's not in Rafa's head. Still, clay is a different story, so need to lose heart.

That match in Wimbledon was very tied and could have gone to one side or to the other side but Rafa played very bad the last game, too many errors and he paid it very badly. Today has been a very different story, I agree that Novak has played excellent but the match was very far to be a classy, good and competitive like many people were expecting , Nadal played with a very low level helping Novak to look even much better. Maybe he has that some mental scar, maybe but we have to understand that maybe he wasn't ready to play at 100% like Novak was