Andy Murray: The Future King Of Tennis
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Clay Death said:
Yes, I saw your prediction several days ago, when you were saying Murray could win Canada master.
And no, I am not confrontational. I am also not convinced that Murray is the best HC around.
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It's interesting with Murray, the last 2 years he has played like the #1 player at slams (pretty close to a tie between him and Novak) but meanwhile at the other events he barely looks like he belongs in the top 10. Before 2012 it was the opposite so his fans will gladly take this over Murray winning a bunch of MS events and not winning slams. But if he wants to take that next step and get to #1 he is going to have to do better at the other events too.
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Riotbeard said:
I agree. Until proven differently, Djokovic is currently the best on hards. However, if Murray were to beat Novak at the US Open again, then that would signal a significant shift in the other direction.
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tented said:
Maybe, maybe not. Nole has quite the stranglehold on the Australian Open, clearly his best slam by far. As of now I think Nole has a bigger edge on Murray and everyone else at AO than Murray has on Nole at USO. The only reason I'd give Murray an edge in a potential final at USO this year is due to this past Wimbledon. Bad losses like that can linger the next time you play the person who beat you easily.
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DarthFed said:
This is a key factor in what could be the shift. We've seen examples of players getting into others' heads, and the effect that can have, such as Nadal in Federer's head, Novak in Rafa's head. If Murray beats Novak in two consecutive slam finals, that could begin to turn things around in Australia. Or not. We'll see.
murray disappoints obviously in montreal but that does not change the big picture. looks like baron and I had andy winning it but it does not always work out.
we have still done pretty damn good with our predictions. we tend to do better with the slams.
I am still betting on andy fighting tooth and nail at flushing meadows to defend his crown there.
he is the best player in the game if that happens. end of story.
I don't care what the rankings say.
now how long that lasts is anybody`s guess.
we have still done pretty damn good with our predictions. we tend to do better with the slams.
I am still betting on andy fighting tooth and nail at flushing meadows to defend his crown there.
he is the best player in the game if that happens. end of story.
I don't care what the rankings say.
now how long that lasts is anybody`s guess.
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tented said:
Yes that's why it would be bigger than most GS finals if that's the matchup. If Nole beats Andy there he is clearly the best player in the world and the man to beat at both HC slams while being the #2 favorite at the other 2 (IMO). If Murray wins then he is the "real" #1 despite the rankings and would have a significant mental edge over Djokovic. The talk of Murray having Nole on the run is kind of laughable after one match. Hope we see them in the final of New York (assuming Roger has no prayer) and then we will see where they stand.
then you might want to tell lendl that its is "laughable".
he is the one who said that andy has nole under pressure.
one match can change somebody`s stars. I believe that straight set destruction at Wimbledon has changed andy`s stars.
I can see him winning the u.s. open and I can see him winning the next Wimbledon.
he is the one who said that andy has nole under pressure.
one match can change somebody`s stars. I believe that straight set destruction at Wimbledon has changed andy`s stars.
I can see him winning the u.s. open and I can see him winning the next Wimbledon.
nonsense. lend is being realistic. he did NOT make these type of remarks prior to this win at Wimbledon.
I also believe that andy has nole on the run. watch what happens if they meet in the final at the u.s. open.
andy did not really have full belief last year and he still captured the crown. he beat the best hard court player on the planet on the biggest of stages.
now he is armed with the game and the belief. he knows exactly what works against nole.
I also believe that andy has nole on the run. watch what happens if they meet in the final at the u.s. open.
andy did not really have full belief last year and he still captured the crown. he beat the best hard court player on the planet on the biggest of stages.
now he is armed with the game and the belief. he knows exactly what works against nole.
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Yes, it's not like Lendl has a horse in the race or anything. Lendl knows top tennis well enough to realize 1 match does not mean Murray owns Djokovic. Murray is flat out the better player on grass and has a significant matchup edge there. It is darn close to equal on the US hardcourts and Nole has the edge at AO. If they meet in the USO final it will be a hell of a battle.
lendl is not going to make an ass of himself. he is a bright chap.
he would not have announced to the world that andy has nole under pressure if it was not true.
lendl saw something in andy that day at the wimby final.
I think he is far better qualified to say what he had to say.
and lendl does not need the money.
he would not have announced to the world that andy has nole under pressure if it was not true.
lendl saw something in andy that day at the wimby final.
I think he is far better qualified to say what he had to say.
and lendl does not need the money.
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who knows what the hell he is up to general gsm. he should have been in contention for one of these 2 masters events.
he did win queens but he did not make much of an impression on clay. some of that because of the bad back obviously.
it is just hard for me to pick anybody other than the defending champ. clearly nadal has declared his intentions to wage war on flushing meadows also.
now they both have nole on the run.
he did win queens but he did not make much of an impression on clay. some of that because of the bad back obviously.
it is just hard for me to pick anybody other than the defending champ. clearly nadal has declared his intentions to wage war on flushing meadows also.
now they both have nole on the run.
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I think both Rafa and Nole (even Fed and JMDP) have Andy on the run.
Andy has no chance at USO. But, my prediction is Andy will not even get
to meet one of the above guys. His scalp will be taken by some no name
guy. By no name guy, I don't mean outside 100 or outside 50. I mean
some spoiler who does not stand a chance to win it all.
Andy has no chance at USO. But, my prediction is Andy will not even get
to meet one of the above guys. His scalp will be taken by some no name
guy. By no name guy, I don't mean outside 100 or outside 50. I mean
some spoiler who does not stand a chance to win it all.