Andy Murray Fans Thread

[Horsa]

he doesn't have a strong Scottish accent. That's a red herring

He may not have a strong Scottish accent to us Brits who are used to Scottish accents but to other people he has. I know this because I've watched programmes where people have spoken to Scots who have less of an accent than Andy Murray has & they've had subtitles on the bottom of the screen & I hadn't touched the subtitle button. I thought I can understand this easy so everyone else should. (I love a Scottish accent so wouldn't complain anyway but I realise that not everyone understands strong Scottish accents like I do.)

 

[Federberg]

^I think it's best to speak for yourself. I've heard Murray interviewed all over the world. Not once has there been any confusion about his speech. Red herring..

 

[Horsa]

^I think it's best to speak for yourself. I've heard Murray interviewed all over the world. Not once has there been any confusion about his speech. Red herring..

I agree with your 1st sentence but I know a lot of people who don't understand a Scots accent so have to disagree with your 3rd sentence. Just because we understand things perfectly doesn't mean to say everyone else can.

 

[Federberg]

^That's precisely what I'm saying. No one. No interviewer has ever indicated that Murray's accent is an issue at all. Furthermore, check post threads on youtube, or whatever other medium where Murray interviews are shown.

IT

IS

NOT

AN

ISSUE.

Sorry...

 

[Horsa]

^That's precisely what I'm saying. No one. No interviewer has ever indicated that Murray's accent is an issue at all. Furthermore, check post threads on youtube, or whatever other medium where Murray interviews are shown.

IT

IS

NOT

AN

ISSUE.

Sorry...

I know very well what you're saying. Interviewers may not find Murray's accent a problem. We certainly do not but for other people it may be. Like I said I know people with less of an accent on T.V. speaking with subtitles. I can tell an accent a mile off & am often accurate as to where they're from after only listening to them for a minute as well as understand what they're saying. I just love accents.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOUT AT ME! I JUST DISAGREE WITH YOU WHICH I HAVE A RIGHT TO DO.

Sorry.

 

[Federberg]

Lol! You keep trying to speak for others. As I said, check the actual reaction to Murray interviews. As a Brit you know perfectly well that he has a very light accent. It's not as if the guy has been stuck on the bad side of Dunblane all his life. The dude went off to Spain when he was young. You're barking up the wrong tree. I just don't understand why you pursue this narrative. Anyway I've spent quite enough time on a Murray thread. I've fulfilled my quota obligations for the next year

 

[Horsa]

Lol! You keep trying to speak for others. As I said, check the actual reaction to Murray interviews. As a Brit you know perfectly well that he has a very light accent. It's not as if the guy has been stuck on the bad side of Dunblane all his life. The dude went off to Spain when he was young. You're barking up the wrong tree. I just don't understand why you pursue this narrative. Anyway I've spent quite enough time on a Murray thread. I've fulfilled my quota obligations for the next year

Lol. I don't try to speak for others. I used to because I had to. I'm getting out of the habit. I'm actually acknowledging that while I can understand him perfectly like a lot of Northerner's can there will be a lot of people who can't which I showed with an example of watching programmes with what I'd call light Scots accents being used & subtitles shown without me pressing subtitles when I could understand perfectly what was said. As a Brit I'd say his accent was medium to strong. I'd classify a light Scottish accent as an Edinburgh, Perth or Pitlochry accent & I've heard a lot of different Scottish accents. I disagree. You say I'm wrong. I say you're wrong. The reactions to his interviews don't take everyone's opinions into account because it would be impossible to do that. I guess I could have agreed to disagree. It takes 2 people to keep things going. Just because I'm normally the 1 to back down doesn't mean to say I always have to. That's your choice. Enjoy yourself!

 

[Horsa]

He's got a light Scottish accent indeed when I can understand Scots as written by both Robert/Robbie/Rabbi Burns & Sir Walter Scott easily which often come with notes & I understand these both sung & spoken too without the subtitles often provided when you watch programmes featuring them as well as the songs "the Barrass" & the Barnyards of Delgaty very easily without & I can understand the broad Glaswegian, Aberdonian & Caledonian Hielander accent easily but had to listen carefully to what he had to say before I got it which I didn't have to do for the accents & languages mentioned above. Don't make me laugh. Like I said I'd class a light Scottish accent as an Edinburgh, Perth or Pitlochry accent.

I don't like people telling me what I'm attempting to do or what my intentions are either. No-one knows exactly what I'm thinking unless I tell them & they don't find out until I tell them. Maybe I'll have to start saying I think that or it's my opinion that before I actually say anything.

 

[Moxie]

I find Murray very easy to understand, with a mild and charming accent. I know Scots can be hard to understand...when "Trainspotting" was released in the US, it had subtitles! Andy has traveled the world all of his adult life, and he gets interviewed by and communicates with people he knows wouldn't understand him easily if he had a strong accent or used a lot of local slang. I think hanging out with a lot of non-Scots also influences his accent. I recently heard Rafa's sister speaking (in Spanish) and noted that she has a much stronger Mallorcan accent than Rafael does, which made me think that he's softened his accent because he does so much public speaking. Same thing with Murray, I suspect.

 

[Horsa]

I find Murray very easy to understand, with a mild and charming accent. I know Scots can be hard to understand...when "Trainspotting" was released in the US, it had subtitles! Andy has traveled the world all of his adult life, and he gets interviewed by and communicates with people he knows wouldn't understand him easily if he had a strong accent or used a lot of local slang. I think hanging out with a lot of non-Scots also influences his accent. I recently heard Rafa's sister speaking (in Spanish) and noted that she has a much stronger Mallorcan accent than Rafael does, which made me think that he's softened his accent because he does so much public speaking. Same thing with Murray, I suspect.

O.K. Point taken. I find Scots very easy to understand normally even people with strong Glaswegian & Scottish Highlander accents. I love all Scottish accents. I grew up with them as I had a Glaswegian Brother-in-Law & his Mother had a really broad Glaswegian accent. I've spoken to people from Dunblane when I was in Gretna Green on my way back from the Highlands of Scotland a few times. They sounded different. Maybe, I had a problem understanding his accent because I was expecting to hear a different accent than I did so rather than concentrating on what he had to say I was working out why he sounded different or I was too busy thinking that I liked his accent & got lost in thought instead of actually focussing on what was said. I understand that people who have a mixture of nationalities & who speak to people of all different nationalities pick up different accents & dialects. For example, genealogically I'm mainly Scots/Irish but also have English & Norman French ancestors who moved to Lancashire & I was born & brought up in Yorkshire. I was taught to speak standard British English at school although I learnt Cockney rhyming slang. Most of the time I speak proper English but Yorkshire slang comes in sometimes. My parents sometimes speak some words of Lancashire as well as Scots/Irish dialect which has worn off on me. I get your point. I watch a lot of Neil Oliver's programmes & have noticed that he has a broader accent when the programmes I'm watching were targeted at the Scottish audience.

 

[Horsa]

Lol! You keep trying to speak for others. As I said, check the actual reaction to Murray interviews. As a Brit you know perfectly well that he has a very light accent. It's not as if the guy has been stuck on the bad side of Dunblane all his life. The dude went off to Spain when he was young. You're barking up the wrong tree. I just don't understand why you pursue this narrative. Anyway I've spent quite enough time on a Murray thread. I've fulfilled my quota obligations for the next year

Sorry, Federberg. I was wrong. I'd had a bad day where I was supposed to be at a funeral but couldn't make it & everything went wrong. I realise that I shouldn't have taken it out on you but I didn't realise that that was what I was doing at the time. I thought that I was just saying what I thought & noticed.

 

[Federberg]

Sorry, Federberg. I was wrong. I'd had a bad day where I was supposed to be at a funeral but couldn't make it & everything went wrong. I realise that I shouldn't have taken it out on you but I didn't realise that that was what I was doing at the time. I thought that I was just saying what I thought & noticed.

don't sweat it at all. My condolences

 

[Horsa]

don't sweat it at all. My condolences

O.K. Thank you very much for your understanding.

 

[isabelle]

according to l'Equipe, Sir Andy said yesterday in a presser at Queen's club that his hip's finally pain-free, great news for him and his fans
he signed a contract with Castore. he hopes to play again one day

 

[Horsa]

according to l'Equipe, Sir Andy said yesterday in a presser at Queen's club that his hip's finally pain-free, great news for him and his fans
he signed a contract with Castore. he hopes to play again one day

Definitely.

That's great.

 

[Front242]

Murray signed a deal with Castore? Castor sugar? That's a sweet deal!

 

[Horsa]

Murray signed a deal with Castore? Castor sugar? That's a sweet deal!

Haha! Very punny! Love it. :0)

 

[Chris Koziarz]

O.K. Point taken. I find Scots very easy to understand normally even people with strong Glaswegian & Scottish Highlander accents. I love all Scottish accents. I grew up with them as I had a Glaswegian Brother-in-Law & his Mother had a really broad Glaswegian accent. I've spoken to people from Dunblane when I was in Gretna Green on my way back from the Highlands of Scotland a few times. They sounded different. Maybe, I had a problem understanding his accent because I was expecting to hear a different accent than I did so rather than concentrating on what he had to say I was working out why he sounded different or I was too busy thinking that I liked his accent & got lost in thought instead of actually focussing on what was said. I understand that people who have a mixture of nationalities & who speak to people of all different nationalities pick up different accents & dialects. For example, genealogically I'm mainly Scots/Irish but also have English & Norman French ancestors who moved to Lancashire & I was born & brought up in Yorkshire. I was taught to speak standard British English at school although I learnt Cockney rhyming slang. Most of the time I speak proper English but Yorkshire slang comes in sometimes. My parents sometimes speak some words of Lancashire as well as Scots/Irish dialect which has worn off on me. I get your point. I watch a lot of Neil Oliver's programmes & have noticed that he has a broader accent when the programmes I'm watching were targeted at the Scottish audience.

Very wise reflections, thank you.
Your experience indicates how subjective & personal the notion of understanding someone's accent can be. I, as an example, understand Murray better than I do understand my friend from Edinburgh, who lives in Australia for some 25 years but who proudly maintains his accent and does not want to "lose it". I also know a man from Glasgow who is now 80 and has been living in my town for 40y+ but speaks so different to anything I've heard before that a conversation with him is a real challenge for me. He has no trouble understanding me and everybody around but he refuses to "blend in" with his speech.
I'm becoming familiar with many dialects and accents and to be honest I don't care anymore how they are called, especially if they are processed by my brain with no trouble. So accordingly, I'd call Murray's accent not Scottish bit simply "Sir Andy Murray speech". A unique melody of voice owned by himself only (his brother & mother speak differently).

 

[Andy22]

Hope murray takes back retirement, he could just take a one or two seasons off then come back. At least one more AO.

 

[Horsa]

Very wise reflections, thank you.
Your experience indicates how subjective & personal the notion of understanding someone's accent can be. I, as an example, understand Murray better than I do understand my friend from Edinburgh, who lives in Australia for some 25 years but who proudly maintains his accent and does not want to "lose it". I also know a man from Glasgow who is now 80 and has been living in my town for 40y+ but speaks so different to anything I've heard before that a conversation with him is a real challenge for me. He has no trouble understanding me and everybody around but he refuses to "blend in" with his speech.
I'm becoming familiar with many dialects and accents and to be honest I don't care anymore how they are called, especially if they are processed by my brain with no trouble. So accordingly, I'd call Murray's accent not Scottish bit simply "Sir Andy Murray speech". A unique melody of voice owned by himself only (his brother & mother speak differently).

You're welcome. I've got a friend where I live who originally came from Scone but I didn't realise until he told me because he sounds so English. Some people are also good at swapping & changing accents because they're good actors.

I love a good accent. Everyone has a different voice but I agree that accents & voices blend in to make people's speech unique. I agree with your last sentence so much & think it's a good job most people have unique voices because most of the time I don't remember people by their faces like most people do but by their voices.