Aegon Championships (Queen's Club) 9-15 June 2014

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Fiero425 said:
1972Murat said:
Gents, remember the "Debate the point, not the poster" gem? Well, it is true, so lets keep it free of unnecessary tangents eh?

Yeah, right! Make that gent not gents Thank You very much! Only one person has lost their freakin' mind here! I'm still as calm as I can be being insulted by some person I don't know or care to know! :nono :angel:

It's really hard to ever call you "calm," since you never met an emoticon, exclamation point, or hyperbolic statement that you didn't like. You get around here like your hair is on fire all the time, so you've got a lot of nerve calling out JLLB for using emoticons against you. If you're going to be emphatic with your posts, you have to take it, as well. Remember you said this about Murray:

"If he was that great on grass, why did he have to come back from 0-2 against an also-ran like Verdasco last season? He played in 2 finals, winning one! That doesn't register in my mind as someone that dominant on the surface! We'll see if he even makes the semi's next month! :lolz::snigger:laydownlaughing "

Actually, that Verdasco match was interesting for both of them. No one expected Verdasco to feature, and Murray was surely nervous about expectation. So good on Fernando for trying to capitalize, but better on Andy for finding his nerve and form. I wouldn't snigger about that match…I thought it was one of the more fascinating of last year's men's Wimbledon. As to the rest of your comment, who do you think, then, would be considered dominant on grass, for now?
 

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While labelling Murray grass no. 1 on the back of one Wimbledon final is a bit hyperbolic, to treat it as if it's laughable is just as bad, if not worse. His last 4 grass tournaments have seen him win Wimbledon, Queens and Olympic gold and reach another Wimbledon final. Who exactly is grass number one if not Murray? Nadal with one grass win in the last two years? Djokovic who didn't even get a medal at the Olympics and hasn't won a grass court title since three years ago? Federer is the only one you could make an argument for.

I'll be surprised if Murray fails to make the semi finals but I don't make him favourite for Wimbledon because his general form since he won it just hasn't been good enough.

talking of bad poasts..the one you just emitted has to be up there :huh:..

"labelling murray grass no1 on the back of one Wimbledon final is a bit hyperbolic"..:s wut ?..well I suppose you would be right..if it was july 2012 and we were between that Wimbledon and the Olympics..but its not july 2012 is it, and since "that one Wimbledon final" murray won the Olympic gold, then in 2013 won queens and then Wimbledon..since start of wimb2012 he is roughly 24-1 on grass (?).

It was a typo, I meant to say on the back of one Wimbledon title, apologies for that. I don't exactly know why you feel the need to pick me up on it though seeing as I was clearly putting the case FOR Murray being "grass #1" at the moment. Perhaps read by the first line in future so you don't end up labelling other peoples' "poasts" as bad ones when they're actually saying the same thing you're saying ;)

I did see you were agreeing with me..sort of, more like damning me with faint praise claiming the other "poast" was "just as bad, if not worse". ;)

and its not just one wimbledon title..its all the rest too. :idea:
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
While labelling Murray grass no. 1 on the back of one Wimbledon final is a bit hyperbolic, to treat it as if it's laughable is just as bad, if not worse. His last 4 grass tournaments have seen him win Wimbledon, Queens and Olympic gold and reach another Wimbledon final. Who exactly is grass number one if not Murray? Nadal with one grass win in the last two years? Djokovic who didn't even get a medal at the Olympics and hasn't won a grass court title since three years ago? Federer is the only one you could make an argument for.

I'll be surprised if Murray fails to make the semi finals but I don't make him favourite for Wimbledon because his general form since he won it just hasn't been good enough.

talking of bad poasts..the one you just emitted has to be up there :huh:..

"labelling murray grass no1 on the back of one Wimbledon final is a bit hyperbolic"..:s wut ?..well I suppose you would be right..if it was july 2012 and we were between that Wimbledon and the Olympics..but its not july 2012 is it, and since "that one Wimbledon final" murray won the Olympic gold, then in 2013 won queens and then Wimbledon..since start of wimb2012 he is roughly 24-1 on grass (?).

It was a typo, I meant to say on the back of one Wimbledon title, apologies for that. I don't exactly know why you feel the need to pick me up on it though seeing as I was clearly putting the case FOR Murray being "grass #1" at the moment. Perhaps read by the first line in future so you don't end up labelling other peoples' "poasts" as bad ones when they're actually saying the same thing you're saying ;)

I did see you were agreeing with me..sort of, more like damning me with faint praise claiming the other "poast" was "just as bad, if not worse". ;)

and its not just one wimbledon title..its all the rest too. :idea:

Of course its all the rest, again I mentioned it all in my post. I didn't mean to insult your posting if that's how it sounded at any point, if that's what you took from it, apologies. The bottom line is, though, that I was actually backing you up.
 

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Lopez def. Hewitt: 6-3, 6-4
 

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Moxie629 said:
Fiero425 said:
1972Murat said:
Gents, remember the "Debate the point, not the poster" gem? Well, it is true, so lets keep it free of unnecessary tangents eh?

Yeah, right! Make that gent not gents Thank You very much! Only one person has lost their freakin' mind here! I'm still as calm as I can be being insulted by some person I don't know or care to know! :nono :angel:

It's really hard to ever call you "calm," since you never met an emoticon, exclamation point, or hyperbolic statement that you didn't like. You get around here like your hair is on fire all the time, so you've got a lot of nerve calling out JLLB for using emoticons against you. If you're going to be emphatic with your posts, you have to take it, as well. Remember you said this about Murray:

"If he was that great on grass, why did he have to come back from 0-2 against an also-ran like Verdasco last season? He played in 2 finals, winning one! That doesn't register in my mind as someone that dominant on the surface! We'll see if he even makes the semi's next month! :lolz::snigger:laydownlaughing "

Actually, that Verdasco match was interesting for both of them. No one expected Verdasco to feature, and Murray was surely nervous about expectation. So good on Fernando for trying to capitalize, but better on Andy for finding his nerve and form. I wouldn't snigger about that match…I thought it was one of the more fascinating of last year's men's Wimbledon. As to the rest of your comment, who do you think, then, would be considered dominant on grass, for now?

That's a poser really; mainly because I don't have the same regard for anyone who wins on "this grass!" They've so overworked it to make it court friendly to players of the day that stand on the baseline for dear life! They rarely venture into the net unless absolutely necessary for the most part! I was watching the athleticism of Margaret Court and BJK from their Wimbledon match in 1970 last night! That was some true grass court playing and a lot more entertaining than the ball bashing from the baseline that most pros resort to now! Sorry, but it's much too difficult to give anyone as much credit in winning Wimbledon on "this grass!" Since Federer at least won multiple championships in a row, 7 overall, he's still THE KING IMO! I guess you can say I'm stuck in the past! :clap :angel:
 

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1972Murat said:
Gulbis is out, Wawrinka goes through without breaking a sweat (maybe a little) after Baggy folded it seems like. Murray wins first match under the guidance of Mauresmo. Tomic cannot buy a win, loses to Radek the chick magnet.

Baggy retired after 5 games. Tomic lost in 2 tie-breaks. I felt sorry for him re: that, but, yeah, Stepanek is 32 or something and going strong, and Bernie has lost a lot of ground in terms of rising stars.
 

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Thursday's Order of Play

Centre Court - 12:30 P.M.


Mannarino (FRA) v Berdych (CZE) [2]

Stepanek (CZE) [15] v Murray (GBR) [3]

Wawrinka (SUI) [1] v Querrey (USA)

Matosevic (AUS) v Tsonga (FRA) [5]

Bryan (USA) [1] / Bryan (USA) [1] v Murray (GBR) / Peers (AUS)




Court 1

De Schepper (FRA) v Lopez (ESP) [10]

Dimitrov (BUL) [4] v Roger-Vasselin (FRA)

Nieminen (FIN) v Dolgopolov (UKR) [8]

Dolgopolov (UKR) / Gulbis (LAT) v Benneteau (FRA) [7] / Roger-Vasselin (FRA) [7]




Court 9

Anderson (RSA) [7] v Stakhovsky (UKR)

Lopez (ESP) / Melzer (AUT) v Peya (AUT) [2] / Soares (BRA) [2]
 

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murray wins..looking good. tidy win. seemed to adjust to the skidding ball after plodding around on clay.

...and he continues his awesome grasscourt form. grigor won yesterday (yippee).
 

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So much for Baggy's start of his campaign to return to the top 10.
 

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what was his injury. baggo won a challenger last week and has a wildcard for Wimbledon.
 

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Decent performance from Murray, not at his grass court best yet but you obviously don't expect that in the first match.

Honestly thought Tsonga might lose when he faced break points in the first set but he came through eventually.

Stan Baghdatis match started out nicely, looked as if it was going to be entertaining but sadly Baghdatis had to retire.

As for Tomic, he honestly doesn't even register on my "up and coming" radar anymore. That Wimbledon run just seems to be a bit of a fluke. There were reports about him getting involved in some scandal involving cocaine and teenage girls a couple of weeks back, got to say I don't really understand why people still look at him as a potential slam contender when he's done nothing of real note for a good three years now barring that 250 win in Sydney.
 

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For me there is no better sight in tennis than Murray on a grass court. In his Wimbledon whites of course.
 

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Iona16 said:
For me there is no better sight in tennis than Murray on a grass court. In his Wimbledon whites of course.

Just can't believe he is doing so much defensive retrieving.
 

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1972Murat said:
Gulbis is out, Wawrinka goes through without breaking a sweat (maybe a little) after Baggy folded it seems like. Murray wins first match under the guidance of Mauresmo. Tomic cannot buy a win, loses to Radek the chick magnet.

chick magnet :laydownlaughing:laydownlaughing