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Kyrgios is a clown, his best shot is his serve without any doubt, he doesn’t have a great game but he knows to play with the mind of his opponents, What he did yesterday was embarrassing for this soport and a lack of respect to his opponent, hope today he lose like a poor chicken he is . He never will win a GS but he will continue doing the show
 

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Kyrgios was robbed during that match despite his win. Nadal fell an inch of cheating as far as I’m concerned. The umpire should be fired. The receiver can’t hold up his hand anytime he feels like it to break the server’s concentration. Nadal should know that by now. No wonder people love Fed more than him. He deserved to lose. Justice was served.
 

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Kyrgios was robbed during that match despite his win. Nadal fell an inch of cheating as far as I’m concerned. The umpire should be fired. The receiver can’t hold up his hand anytime he feels like it to break the server’s concentration. Nadal should know that by now. No wonder people love Fed more than him. He deserved to lose. Justice was served.
Oh, come on. I saw him do it once. It's not like it's not done. Sometimes the receiver is distracted and needs a second. People look for all kinds of ways to slag Nadal, I have to say.
 

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I didn’t see the first 2 sets. He held up his hand and robbed Kyrgios of an ace in the third set then held up his hand on match point. Nobody reasonable can defend him Nadal.
 

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Kyrgios was robbed during that match despite his win. Nadal fell an inch of cheating as far as I’m concerned. The umpire should be fired. The receiver can’t hold up his hand anytime he feels like it to break the server’s concentration. Nadal should know that by now. No wonder people love Fed more than him. He deserved to lose. Justice was served.
You are the tipical Federer's fan who only can see the mistakes of the others but not of him who has as more as anyone else, ridiculous
 

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I didn’t see the first 2 sets. He held up his hand and robbed Kyrgios of an ace in the third set then held up his hand on match point. Nobody reasonable can defend him Nadal.
I would say nobody reasonable can defend Kyrgios after the pathetic roll he made yesterday, only the Nadal’s haters and the ones who has the same low level as kyrgios
 

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I didn’t see the first 2 sets. He held up his hand and robbed Kyrgios of an ace in the third set then held up his hand on match point. Nobody reasonable can defend him Nadal.
The bolded is your clearly not unbiased opinion. Nadal holds up a hand, and the top of your head comes off. No mention that I see of Federer's code violation for audible obscenity on the Dubai thread. Federer is no stranger to actual misbehavior on court, so don't make him out to be a saint.
 
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Here is what Rafa said:

"[Kyrgios] lacks respect for the public, the rival and himself."
"He's a player who has the talent to win Grand Slams - a player who can fight for the top rankings, but there's a reason he is where he is."
"He is a very dangerous player but lacks consistency."
"I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's a good guy."

Nadal summed up Kyrgios career and personality in four short lines. I just don't get Kyrgios. He clearly loves the big stage. He can play under pressure. So why doesn't he apply himself so that he can get to the big matches?

I think he cannot delay gratification or has some sort of ADD. He should focus on winning the boring matches. Unless he wins those he can't get to the fun matches.
 

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Nadal summed up Kyrgios career and personality in four short lines. I just don't get Kyrgios. He clearly loves the big stage. He can play under pressure. So why doesn't he apply himself so that he can get to the big matches?

I think he cannot delay gratification or has some sort of ADD. He should focus on winning the boring matches. Unless he wins those he can't get to the fun matches.
By all accounts, Nick has a complicated relationship with tennis. He would have liked to play basketball, but his dad told him which sport he'd be able to have success at, from Australia. His parents committed a lot of money to his tennis career, and he has come good, to some extent. He's going to have a lucrative-enough career. We can get frustrated at Kyrgios for "wasting" his talent, but only he can decide what satisfies him. I like him, I like his kooky game, and I have some affection for the tortured souls of the game (Safin, Agassi.)

As to the post-match kerfuffle, I suspect Kyrgios was selectively fed what Rafa said by the press, looking for quotes, so I don't think it's all his fault. Let's not pretend that the sporting press doesn't sometimes manufacture a dust-up.
 
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Here is what Rafa said:

"[Kyrgios] lacks respect for the public, the rival and himself."
"He's a player who has the talent to win Grand Slams - a player who can fight for the top rankings, but there's a reason he is where he is."
"He is a very dangerous player but lacks consistency."
"I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's a good guy."


Every word true, and said in a respectful manner (adding in that last bit). And here's what Kyrgios had to say:

"He doesn't know the journey I have been through. He doesn't know anything about me so I'm not going to listen at all.
"That's the way I play. He's very slow in between points. The rule in the book says you have to play at the speed of the server. Rafa has the speed every time."
"I'm not going to comment on his game. He has got his game and I have got mine."


What a dumbass. He basically proved Rafa's point. Dude, have some respect - for tennis, for your elders--especially one of the greats like Rafa--and yourself.

Actually, I agree with what both of them are saying & think that they were both right when looking at things through their eyes.

My immediate opinion was opposite to that of Dude's: Kyrgios shows more respect than Nadal in this exchange. Even though Kyrgios' words are a bit "rougher" his attitude appears to show more tolerance towards his opponent: "He has got his game and I have got mine". While Nadal's intentions are more patronising: "[Kyrgios] lacks respect for the public, the rival and himself", implying that Kyrgios' attitude is wrong. Hence Kyrgios' response, smart & to the point. And also respectful. You haven't shown a full transcript of Kyrgios' presser. Later on he praised Nad & the crowd, saying: "I love playing Rafa, he’s an unbelievable champion [...] It was one of the best atmosphere’s I’ve ever played in. The majority of the crowd were going for Rafa. He’s going to get that wherever he goes. He’s an unbelievable player. One of the greatest of all time. So just to be able to be a part of that atmosphere… it was a match that I’ll never, ever forget.”

This exchange is a perfect example how subjective and sometimes difficult to measure respect (or any emotional quality) can be. Dude's and my opinions are so opposite, yet both can be objectively valid, depending which path of the complex emotional meanings one takes while interpreting the exchange. So to be "right" in your judgement you have to accept arguments from both sides (even if leading to contradictory outcomes), as Horsa did.
 
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As to the post-match kerfuffle, I suspect Kyrgios was selectively fed what Rafa said by the press, looking for quotes, so I don't think it's all his fault. Let's not pretend that the sporting press doesn't sometimes manufacture a dust-up.
Well said. I think Rafa & Nick will be getting along well in the future, despite a "frosty handshake" and "the exchange" after this match.
 

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My immediate opinion was opposite to that of Dude's: Kyrgios shows more respect than Nadal in this exchange. Even though Kyrgios' words are a bit "rougher" his attitude appears to show more tolerance towards his opponent: "He has got his game and I have got mine". While Nadal's intentions are more patronising: "[Kyrgios] lacks respect for the public, the rival and himself", implying that Kyrgios' attitude is wrong. Hence Kyrgios' response, smart & to the point. And also respectful. You haven't shown a full transcript of Kyrgios' presser. Later on he praised Nad & the crowd, saying: "I love playing Rafa, he’s an unbelievable champion [...] It was one of the best atmosphere’s I’ve ever played in. The majority of the crowd were going for Rafa. He’s going to get that wherever he goes. He’s an unbelievable player. One of the greatest of all time. So just to be able to be a part of that atmosphere… it was a match that I’ll never, ever forget.”

This exchange is a perfect example how subjective and sometimes difficult to measure respect (or any emotional quality) can be. Dude's and my opinions are so opposite, yet both can be objectively valid, depending which path of the complex emotional meanings one takes while interpreting the exchange. So to be "right" in your judgement you have to accept arguments from both sides (even if leading to contradictory outcomes), as Horsa did.
After the show Kyrgios made and winning it’s logic that he would make that kind of comment , he is not stupid even that he looks like he is
 

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My immediate opinion was opposite to that of Dude's: Kyrgios shows more respect than Nadal in this exchange. Even though Kyrgios' words are a bit "rougher" his attitude appears to show more tolerance towards his opponent: "He has got his game and I have got mine". While Nadal's intentions are more patronising: "[Kyrgios] lacks respect for the public, the rival and himself", implying that Kyrgios' attitude is wrong. Hence Kyrgios' response, smart & to the point. And also respectful. You haven't shown a full transcript of Kyrgios' presser. Later on he praised Nad & the crowd, saying: "I love playing Rafa, he’s an unbelievable champion [...] It was one of the best atmosphere’s I’ve ever played in. The majority of the crowd were going for Rafa. He’s going to get that wherever he goes. He’s an unbelievable player. One of the greatest of all time. So just to be able to be a part of that atmosphere… it was a match that I’ll never, ever forget.”

This exchange is a perfect example how subjective and sometimes difficult to measure respect (or any emotional quality) can be. Dude's and my opinions are so opposite, yet both can be objectively valid, depending which path of the complex emotional meanings one takes while interpreting the exchange. So to be "right" in your judgement you have to accept arguments from both sides (even if leading to contradictory outcomes), as Horsa did.
I think you're right that Rafa had no right imposing his own ethics on the way Nick approaches the game. That was a bit sour, or at the very least, judgmental. As I said above, we all want Nick to knuckle down and care about tennis, and play "the way he should," but that's down to Nick. Rafa, Roger and Novak are the poster boys for work hard, make the most of your gifts. It's also not untrue that Nick has disrespected the crowd, the opponent and himself, in the course of his career. And it's understandable that that would offend Rafa, but he didn't need to say it.
 

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Kyrgios was robbed during that match despite his win. Nadal fell an inch of cheating as far as I’m concerned. The umpire should be fired. The receiver can’t hold up his hand anytime he feels like it to break the server’s concentration. Nadal should know that by now. No wonder people love Fed more than him. He deserved to lose. Justice was served.

LOL! ........yes Rafa is the only one to do this in the history of the game,take your Federer glasses off......
 
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Who are the commentators of this match? what a couple of idiots!
Go Stan, take out that clown! remember what he told you about your girlfriend and Kokkinakis
 
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I didn’t see the first 2 sets. He held up his hand and robbed Kyrgios of an ace in the third set then held up his hand on match point. Nobody reasonable can defend him Nadal.
Maybe if you would have seen the first set and beginning of the second you could give a reasonable and correct opinion
 

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That was a tight first set which Nick won 7-5,he seems to be dialed in for this match,though knowing Nick this could change:)
 
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