Abierto Mexicano TelCel, Acapulco, Mexico, ATP 500

[MargaretMcAleer]

Rafa could have won this match perfectly well but I can see that he doesn't have too much confidence like he had before. I don't expect too much of him in IW and Miami, sad but true. Tomorrow Kyrgios will lose because he can't win two matches in a row but not because he is injured, he is not, the way that he was running and serving is not way he had back and knees problems

Carol if you are still around what has happened to Almagro? someone asked me yesterday about him

 

[Moxie]

Carol if you are still around what has happened to Almagro? someone asked me yesterday about him

Forgive me for jumping in, but Almagro had a knee surgery last spring. I can find no news about his recovery or come-back, but he's 33 now, and has dropped completely out of the rankings. It's hard to think he's not done.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Forgive me for jumping in, but Almagro had a knee surgery last spring. I can find no news about his recovery or come-back, but he's 33 now, and has dropped completely out of the rankings. It's hard to think he's not done.

I thought he had a knee problem,gosh 33 already time flies,good player,pity about his head at times,sad to see any player having to give the game away regarding a injury.

 

[El Dude]

Ferrer is retiring after this year, right? I imagine Robredo and Almagro aren't far behind. Verdasco is holding steady, and of course Rafa is Rafa, but the strong cohort of Spanish players is thinning out a bit.

 

[El Dude]

Forgot about Feliciano...he's still hanging in there, although faded from that late career spike a couple years ago.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Ferrer is retiring after this year, right? I imagine Robredo and Almagro aren't far behind. Verdasco is holding steady, and of course Rafa is Rafa, but the strong cohort of Spanish players is thinning out a bit.

David is retiring in Madrid tournament this year I believe,sad to see him go I have watched him live many times on clay,pity he could not win a GS title,,pound for pound he leaves everything on court.

 

[Front242]

Unfortunate but it's probably 99.99% all over for Almagro. He's had 3 knee surgeries since that injury. 1 surgery is hard to recover from for most, let alone 3 at his age.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.ten...almagro-unsure-when-he-will-return-to-action/

 

[isabelle]

Stan has a good opportunity there, allez Stan

 

[atttomole]

Love or hate Kyrgios, he may be the most entertaining player on tour. Hopefully he can string together enough magic to win a big title or three.

He's a different player from Monfils, but I almost see him in that "anything goes" wildcard mold...but Monfils with more bite. But the ATP tour could use more unusual players (what happened to Dolgopolov, anyway?).

I think if he can hire someone like Darren Cahill, Kyrgios could be more consistent. Cahill is a no nonsense guy who can add steel to Kyrgios’ game.

 

[Federberg]

For those who think Kyrgios is an underrated talent, consider:
vs. Novak: 2-0
vs. Rafa: 3-3
vs. Roger: 1-3

He's now 6-6 vs. the three greatest players in tennis history (probably). Ironically he's 1-5 vs Andy.

if that doesn't illustrate the peculiar nature of match ups I don't know what does

 

[herios]

Kyrgios lives and dies of his serve. If that is clicking, he will get to a TB like any dervebot and then he can beat anyone because he does not get edgy and handles pressure well.

 

[tented]

I think if he can hire someone like Darren Cahill, Kyrgios could be more consistent. Cahill is a no nonsense guy who can add steel to Kyrgios’ game.

I’m not sure Cahill could work with him, even if he wanted to, because he has a contract with Adidas to work with their athletes.

 

[atttomole]

I’m not sure Cahill could work with him, even if he wanted to, because he has a contract with Adidas to work with their athletes.

I see. Then it could be a problem, but they may try to find a different arrangement if Darren’s contract has some flexibility.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

For those who think Kyrgios is an underrated talent, consider:
vs. Novak: 2-0
vs. Rafa: 3-3
vs. Roger: 1-3

He's now 6-6 vs. the three greatest players in tennis history (probably). Ironically he's 1-5 vs Andy.

You know, this is exactly the reason I do not like the guy. He needs a solid work ethic (read Novak), he has to play every point and the match and the opponent as seriously as he can (read Rafa) and work and train hard to be consistent year in year out (read Roger).
His record against those guys means nothing to me personally. How many slams did that record get him? What about his record against everyone else?
Until he shows me dedication, he is a clown with talent.

 

[tented]

You know, this is exactly the reason I do not like the guy. He needs a solid work ethic (read Novak), he has to play every point and the match and the opponent as seriously as he can (read Rafa) and work and train hard to be consistent year in year out (read Roger).
His record against those guys means nothing to me personally. How many slams did that record get him? What about his record against everyone else?
Until he shows me dedication, he is a clown with talent.

I agree with your post in general, but I think all of the Big Three have a solid work ethic, and work & train hard to be consistent.

“What about his record against everyone else?” — that’s it, isn’t it? He’ll show little to no effort at times, but rises to the occasion with the Big Three. If he were to put in that amount of effort every time he’s on court, his results could be significant.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

I agree with your post in general, but I think all of the Big Three have a solid work ethic, and work & train hard to be consistent.

“What about his record against everyone else?” — that’s it, isn’t it? He’ll show little to no effort at times, but rises to the occasion with the Big Three. If he were to put in that amount of effort every time he’s on court, his results could be significant.

100%. I just wanted to divide those qualities up player by player mostly because each of those qualities personify the player I matched them with...in my opinion.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Looks like Nick and Rafa got into it a little bit? I did not see the match myself. Any tense moments or something?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/47398578

 

[GameSetAndMath]

It was a pretty even, and yet odd match.

I like that expression. You are almost talking like a mathematician.

 

[El Dude]

Looks like Nick and Rafa got into it a little bit? I did not see the match myself. Any tense moments or something?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/47398578

Here is what Rafa said:

"[Kyrgios] lacks respect for the public, the rival and himself."
"He's a player who has the talent to win Grand Slams - a player who can fight for the top rankings, but there's a reason he is where he is."
"He is a very dangerous player but lacks consistency."
"I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's a good guy."

Every word true, and said in a respectful manner (adding in that last bit). And here's what Kyrgios had to say:

"He doesn't know the journey I have been through. He doesn't know anything about me so I'm not going to listen at all.
"That's the way I play. He's very slow in between points. The rule in the book says you have to play at the speed of the server. Rafa has the speed every time."
"I'm not going to comment on his game. He has got his game and I have got mine."

What a dumbass. He basically proved Rafa's point. Dude, have some respect - for tennis, for your elders--especially one of the greats like Rafa--and yourself.

 

[Horsa]

Here is what Rafa said:

"[Kyrgios] lacks respect for the public, the rival and himself."
"He's a player who has the talent to win Grand Slams - a player who can fight for the top rankings, but there's a reason he is where he is."
"He is a very dangerous player but lacks consistency."
"I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's a good guy."

Every word true, and said in a respectful manner (adding in that last bit). And here's what Kyrgios had to say:

"He doesn't know the journey I have been through. He doesn't know anything about me so I'm not going to listen at all.
"That's the way I play. He's very slow in between points. The rule in the book says you have to play at the speed of the server. Rafa has the speed every time."
"I'm not going to comment on his game. He has got his game and I have got mine."

What a dumbass. He basically proved Rafa's point. Dude, have some respect - for tennis, for your elders--especially one of the greats like Rafa--and yourself.

Actually, I agree with what both of them are saying & think that they were both right when looking at things through their eyes.