2024 Internazionali BNL d'Italia, Rome, Italy - Masters 1000

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“I went for a run it is hard to have a fair conversation here sometimes when someone pushes their point of view and dosent see the other side. or refuses to see the other side!“

That’s what you posted to Moxie. “Passive-aggressive behavior is characterized by a pattern of passive hostility and an avoidance of direct communication.” At the very least it was a side shot at me. If you are done discussing something, YOU move on. Telling me to move on is not within your purview.
To be fair you did push your point of view regarding Berrettini, and you could not see the other side, which I tried pointing out to you. having a conversation to me is listening to the other persons point of view, I agree Matteo has a weak bhand, and then the other person has to be able to see your point of view, to me you just wanted to push your view, I had to go out for a run before I lost my temper I am Italian and we have have short fuses.
I did say I had enough of this conversation and move on and said to you move on as well your response to me you laughed, that is a very condescending response which I did not appreciate.
 
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Getting back to earlier tennis noone has mentioned the defending champion Daniil Medvedev's match, started his Rome campaign with a good 75 64 over Jack Draper.Broke the young Brit 5 times in 2 sets.Faces Medjedovic on Monday
 

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Tabilo takes a first against Novak, quite easy actually, 6:2.
 

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Novak not feeling it today, so far. Tabilo broke him twice, won the set 6-2. Now Djokovic has broken himself first game of the 2nd. Back-to-back DFs. Meantime, the Chilean is very calm and playing great.
 
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And and early break in a 2nd set for Chilean.
 

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Is the water bottle incident having some effect on Novak in this match just tuned in?
He's having one of his "off-balance" days, but I don't think it's the water bottle. He just hasn't played much tennis this year and he's 37.
 
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Is the water bottle incident having some effect on Novak in this match just tuned in?
Probably not, more like age. I'm not watching though, back to the ocean again. We do have Starlink now and internet speed is great, but we are limited to 850mb per day, which is good for internet browsing, YT highlights, some podcasts and of course, TF forum.
 

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He's having one of his "off-balance" days, but I don't think it's the water bottle. He just hasn't played much tennis this year and he's 37.
Thanks I have been having computer troubles and just got back online and I am now able to watch this match
 

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Novak still can't take the opponent's serve. Off day or not it looks bad.
 

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Novak still can't take the opponent's serve. Off day or not it looks bad.
I've got Jimmy Arias on Tennis Channel, and he says that Novak came out nervous. He says, which I find interesting, that Novak loses balance when he's nervous. But, anyway, he's lacking matches this year, he likes this tournament, and theoretically, it's the last one for him before RG.
 

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I've got Jimmy Arias on Tennis Channel, and he says that Novak came out nervous. He says, which I find interesting, that Novak loses balance when he's nervous. But, anyway, he's lacking matches this year, he likes this tournament, and theoretically, it's the last one for him before RG.
It's a good point. Nerves are worst for your game, your legs get heavy, your arm does't listen..but I must I say I am suprised that he is going down like this. If there was one tournament to check where his game is at the moment that would be here. Tournament he loves and won many times before. Weird season for him so far, not convincing at all coming in the RG.
 

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So which loss in Rome is worse, Nadal or Novak? I'd say Novak.
 
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So which loss in Rome is worse, Nadal or Novak? I'd say Novak.
Don't depress me. I think you might be right, though. Rafa still peppered in some great shots. Novak looked flat all day. They just said that of the 4 BPs that Tabilo won games off of him, Novak DF'd on 3 of them, including match point. His feet never got under him.
 
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So which loss in Rome is worse, Nadal or Novak? I'd say Novak.
I would have to say Novak, I have seen him many times live in Rome a tournament he has usually won or done well at
I really thought he would do well here and find his clay legs before RG.
With Rafa I have already resigned myself this is his last year and my expectations are not high where he is concerned,
 
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