2023 Wimbledon F: Alcaraz vs. Djokovic

[Jelenafan]

I do think younger players will take inspiration. Rafa was young and on his own against Roger for a short while, but Novak and Murray didn't take long to rise up. Rune and Sinner, for two, are closer to ready. Even the likes of Tsitsipas and Zverev might be inspired. Medvedev knows he can win Majors, and I think he will again. And yes, some players to be named later, like the young Frenchmen you mention, and there are others.

I just can't see the crown Princes (Tsitsipas and Zverev) improving drastically, working on their weaknesses or even changing their overall attitude. They are now going to be in August respectively ages 25 & 26.

It struck me how, even if generous on her contribution, Alcaraz stated in a post match interview how he took to heart what Martina Navratilova advised him last year , ie using more slice on the grass. He even stated you listen to a 9 time champion. Tsitsipas and Zverev would rather cut off their nonexistent testicles than admit a female champion had any sage advice to contribute to their games. Martina N. has offered suggestions on Stefano's slice BH and you can bet the arrogant one could care less for female champions, as he whined last year the WTA didn't deserve equal pay.

Zverev has complained about the pressure of playing in Germany or playing to get to the very top, meanwhile Alcaraz has played 3 Majors in a row, where if he won or lost he would either gain or lose the # 1 ranking. That's pressure and I can't imagine under similar circumstance those two relishing that challenge.

 

[the AntiPusher]

I just can't see the crown Princes (Tsitsipas and Zverev) improving drastically, working on their weaknesses or even changing their overall attitude. They are now going to be in August respectively ages 25 & 26.

It struck me how, even if generous on her contribution, Alcaraz stated in a post match interview how he took to heart what Martina Navratilova advised him last year , ie using more slice on the grass. He even stated you listen to a 9 time champion. Tsitsipas and Zverev would rather cut off their nonexistent testicles than admit a female champion had any sage advice to contribute to their games. Martina N. has offered suggestions on Stefano's slice BH and you can bet the arrogant one could care less for female champions, as he whined last year the WTA didn't deserve equal pay.

Zverev has complained about the pressure of playing in Germany or playing to get to the very top, meanwhile Alcaraz has played 3 Majors in a row, where if he won or lost he would either gain or lose the # 1 ranking. That's pressure and I can't imagine under similar circumstance those two relishing that challenge.

JF ..I truly believe that it's was the death of Stefano's grandmother prior to the RG final that played a factor in that one..Give Novak credit he "ran"down The Young Greek just like he ran down Thien at AO.

 

[Moxie]

I just can't see the crown Princes (Tsitsipas and Zverev) improving drastically, working on their weaknesses or even changing their overall attitude. They are now going to be in August respectively ages 25 & 26.

It struck me how, even if generous on her contribution, Alcaraz stated in a post match interview how he took to heart what Martina Navratilova advised him last year , ie using more slice on the grass. He even stated you listen to a 9 time champion. Tsitsipas and Zverev would rather cut off their nonexistent testicles than admit a female champion had any sage advice to contribute to their games. Martina N. has offered suggestions on Stefano's slice BH and you can bet the arrogant one could care less for female champions, as he whined last year the WTA didn't deserve equal pay.

Zverev has complained about the pressure of playing in Germany or playing to get to the very top, meanwhile Alcaraz has played 3 Majors in a row, where if he won or lost he would either gain or lose the # 1 ranking. That's pressure and I can't imagine under similar circumstance those two relishing that challenge.

To be honest, I was just being kind to them. Like you, I think they're useless panty-waists. Love the bit about Alcaraz listening to Martina.

 

[Jelenafan]

JF ..I truly believe that it's was the death of Stefano's grandmother prior to the RG final that played a factor in that one..Give Novak credit he "ran"down The Young Greek just like he ran down Thien at AO.

AP, I know you like the guy, and believe me I know he's an incredibly gifted offensive player , but my issue with Stefano is that his game has not improved. His weaknesses when he burst on the scene are the same today. Granted only the very elite can exploit those weaknesses but we are talking about the stratosphere level of winning Slams versus the other top players. He's already in danger of being or becoming Alcaraz's not witch, not snitch, well, you know...... ; )

 

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[MargaretMcAleer]

AP,
I just got home from work about 20 mins ago and just finished your Alcaraz Fan Tee shirt? about time you were a believer no? ( forget about Tsitsipas he is old news
This young man deserves all the praise and then some, winning Queens and now Wimbledon shades of Rafa in 2008, that is the only comparison I will make.I am not going to compare him to Rafa, Novak or Federer
Thiis young man is Carlos Alcaraz, we as tennis fans are soo lucky to have him, I look forward to his ongoing career.

 

[Kieran]

I totally take your point, because they absolutely slowed the grass because it was too boring. One and done. Same reason they got rid of carpet. However, the surface is what it is, and the players play the game they need to, now. IMO, they had a hard time acing each other off the court not so much for the surface, as the fact that the person across the net was a great returner. Yes, if the courts were faster, more aces might have hit, but it still misses the big picture. The last time a huge server, (and mainly a server) made the finals was Roddick. And he almost won. Or maybe Raonic, but he didn't even come close. It's because no one wants a player with no game other than serve that they changed the grass. For the better, IMO. Would you have ever wanted an Isner v. Raonic final, for example? I'd rather stab my own eyes out.

Tennis wasn’t boring in the 90’s, but they thought it might encourage rivalries and make it more interesting to non-tennis fans so they changed it. In the 1998 boogey-match between Pete and Goran, there were 43 aces, 32 of them by Goran.

Last year there were 45 aces. Nick hit 30, Novak 15.

In 2021 there were 21 aces in 4 sets, Novak hit 5 and Berretini hit 16.

In 2019 there were 35, Roger hit 25, Novak 10.

2018 had 16 in a straight set match.

This year’s number is exceptionally low. I know they’re both great returners but this is too low. I think it could be the balls…

 

[Kieran]

This is a classic bit of internet trolling, innit? Can't admit you're wrong, so you just say the one you back played utter rubbish? Even the actual Novak fans around here give the credit to Alcaraz, which he deserves. I think you just proved you know nothing about tennis.

Classic sourpuss claptrap that what happened to Novak today had nothing to do with the person on the other side of the net. If not, then why did he "fall apart?" At Wimbledon? He played a fairly immaculate first set. Only lost the 2nd in a TB.

He pulled it back together in the 4th, and had the momentum. No credit to Alcaraz for some stunning and brave play? Did you actually watch the replay of the match? I somehow doubt it. You seem to be working with stats to recreate a narrative for that match that suits you.

Some people will always see a match the way they want to, especially a big one. There are Federer fans who still insist that the 2008 Wimbledon was all about Roger playing like crap. No credit to the guy who won. In 5 sets. Over 4+ hours. Plausible? Not really. But you'll believe what you want, I'm sure.

And there was me praising Mike for his initial reaction to the match, that it was generous. Totally doesn’t understand what he’s watching when he’s watching tennis…

 

[Kieran]

Where's the ATP villain thread. It's time to give it a bump with this gem

This kind of think tells us a lot about Djokovic and why so many of us don’t like him…

 

[Kieran]

I just can't see the crown Princes (Tsitsipas and Zverev) improving drastically, working on their weaknesses or even changing their overall attitude. They are now going to be in August respectively ages 25 & 26.

It struck me how, even if generous on her contribution, Alcaraz stated in a post match interview how he took to heart what Martina Navratilova advised him last year , ie using more slice on the grass. He even stated you listen to a 9 time champion. Tsitsipas and Zverev would rather cut off their nonexistent testicles than admit a female champion had any sage advice to contribute to their games. Martina N. has offered suggestions on Stefano's slice BH and you can bet the arrogant one could care less for female champions, as he whined last year the WTA didn't deserve equal pay.

Zverev has complained about the pressure of playing in Germany or playing to get to the very top, meanwhile Alcaraz has played 3 Majors in a row, where if he won or lost he would either gain or lose the # 1 ranking. That's pressure and I can't imagine under similar circumstance those two relishing that challenge.

Sissy and Zverev are two bimbos who couldn’t win a GS title if they played each other in the final…

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Tennis wasn’t boring in the 90’s, but they thought it might encourage rivalries and make it more interesting to non-tennis fans so they changed it. In the 1998 boogey-match between Pete and Goran, there were 43 aces, 32 of them by Goran.

Last year there were 45 aces. Nick hit 30, Novak 15.

In 2021 there were 21 aces in 4 sets, Novak hit 5 and Berretini hit 16.

In 2019 there were 35, Roger hit 25, Novak 10.

2018 had 16 in a straight set match.

This year’s number is exceptionally low. I know they’re both great returners but this is too low. I think it could be the balls…

Do you think the balls being heavier does have something to do with it? thinking more about it I think you are right

 

[Kieran]

Do you think the balls being heavier does have something to do with it? thinking more about it I think you are right

I don’t know what the serve speeds were but it would definitely slow the serve down..

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I don’t know what the serve speeds were but it would definitely slow the serve down..

Well players would have to adjust their strings in their racket for the heavier balls

 

[Kieran]

Well players would have to adjust their strings in their racket for the heavier balls

Difficult to say if it would make much difference. But anyway, 2 aces across five sets by Novak must be a record low for him..

 

[the AntiPusher]

To be honest, I was just being kind to them. Like you, I think they're useless panty-waists. Love the bit about Alcaraz listening to Martina.

I also liked the Martina Navratilova mentioned part of that post. We got to know it has happened, She has been asked to help him .no way Papa Pas could be so ignorant to not inquire.(the assistance with the slice BH)..

As for Stefano he lacks confidence and agreed he may have listened to Papa too long inside or between his ears.

E.g. listen to this coaching is what Stefano's ears need