2023 ATP General News

[Moxie]

Don't forget about Novak choking away the 2016 US Open final. He wins that match, the Year End #1 would have been locked.

Did he "choke," it, though? Novak lost in 4, v. Stan, so he could have had another set to play with. Stan was of Novak's bugaboos in Majors. It really bothers me when some say that the top guy "choked" it, when the other guy took it to him. Especially if they don't go the full option of sets. In my memory of that match, Stan played really smart and calm. By then, he knew how to beat Novak, even in the final of a Major, and he did.

 

[Moxie]

I don't see how Charlie would rank below Jannik and Meddi when he won a slam this year and they didn't.

This is one of my problems with things like UTR. They use their own ratings, but they don't necessarily pass the eye test...or the sniff test. Winning a Major gets you one step closer to the Hall of Fame. Passing a guy who won a Major on the UTR rankings...gives you bragging rights to the UTR acolytes, I guess?

 

[El Dude]

Let's see how my Premier Event Points does:

1. Djokovic 53
2. Alcaraz 35
3. Medvedev 27
4. Sinner 21
5. Rublev 13
6-7. Zverev, Tsitsipas 9
8. Rune 8
9-11. Hurkacz, Ruud, Fritz 7

Of course that's pretty much exactly the same as the ATP rankings.

 

[Moxie]

Let's see how my Premier Event Points does:

1. Djokovic 53
2. Alcaraz 35
3. Medvedev 27
4. Sinner 21
5. Rublev 13
6-7. Zverev, Tsitsipas 9
8. Rune 8
9-11. Hurkacz, Ruud, Fritz 7

Of course that's pretty much exactly the same as the ATP rankings.

Remind me what "Premier Event Points" are?

 

[El Dude]

Remind me what "Premier Event Points" are?

What, you don't have a glossary handy of all of my stats?

It is a system I concocted to assess the overall value of a given season, very similar to the "tournament points" of GOAT Points. Basically:

Grand Slam 10 W, 5 F, 3 SF, 1 QF
TF: 1 per win, +1 for title (max 6)
Masters: 4 W, 2 F, 1 SF
Olympics: 4 Gold, 2 Silver, 1 Bronze
ATP 500: 2 W, 1 F
ATP 250: 1 W
Davis Cup: 1 for singles Final win
Slam bonuses: +5 for all four, +2 for 3 Slams, +1 for 2 Slams; +1 for two surfaces, +2 for three surfaces; +1 for all finals (3 or more Slams played)

(So it differs for GOAT Points by giving a bit more weight to Slam wins and Olympic Gold, plus the Slam bonuses).

Basically 10 PEP is a good year for a second tier player; 20 is elite (roughly top 200 of the Open Era), 30 is great (roughly top 100 Open Era), 40 is probably the best in a given year (roughly top 50 Open Era) and the type of season only all-time greats have, 50 is historic and among the top 20 or so best season of the Open Era. There have only been six 60+ seasons (two by Federer, two by Djokovic, 1 each by Laver and McEnroe).

Novak's 53 PEP was the third highest of his career and 13th highest overall in the Open Era. Here are the 50 PEP seasons of the Open Era:

1. 75 - Djokovic 2015
2. 71 - Laver 1969
3. 71 - Federer 2006
4. 64 - McEnroe 1984
5. 63 - Djokovic 2011
6. 59 - Federer 2007
7. 56 - Nadal 2013
8. 56 - Nadal 2010
9. 56 - Federer 2004
10. 54 - Lendl 1986
11. 54 - Federer 2005
12. 54 - Murray 2016
13. 53 - Djokovic 2023
14. 52 - Borg 1980
15. 52 - Nadal 2008
16. 51 - Djokovic 2016
17. 50 - Connors 1974
18. 50 - Djokovic 2012
19. 50 - Djokovic 2021

Note that this is a pretty simple formula. I have a more complex version that incorporates a "PEP%"--that is, PEP divided by tournaments played, to differentiate players who, for example, accumulated 40 PEP in 25 tournaments vs. 15 tournaments. But I've only calculated it for a handful of players so far. It helps balance eras a bit, and gives a bit more weight to those players who had extraordinary seasons without playing every Slam, for instance.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Russian and Belarusian athletes will be allowed to compete at the 2024 Paris Olympics as "Individual Neutral Athletes'
Qualified athletes with a Russian or Belarusian passport will be entered and compete as Individual Neutral Athletes ("AINs)
No Russian or Belarusian government or state officials will be invited to or accredited for the Olympics Games Paris 2024 ( source The Tennis Letter)

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Nick Kyrgios has announced his withdrawal AO 2024, ongoing wrist injury, he will be commentating for Channel 9 during the AO

 

[don_fabio]

Nick Kyrgios has announced his withdrawal AO 2024, ongoing wrist injury, he will be commentating for Channel 9 during the AO

and he announced that he is opening free-to-access OnlyFans page.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Nick Kyrgios has announced his withdrawal AO 2024, ongoing wrist injury, he will be commentating for Channel 9 during the AO

If you listen to Nick's comments over the past year and half since he was in the SW19 final. I NEVER heard any thoughts or feelings of regrets for loosing that match to Novak. Really it was the opposite, he was just happy to be there but really zero remorse for not giving it his All. I think he is very entertaining to watch but just like Monfils, that's really all he is about.

 

[Kieran]

If you listen to Nick's comments over the past year and half since he was in the SW19 final. I NEVER heard any thoughts or feelings of regrets for loosing that match to Novak. Really it was the opposite, he was just happy to be there but really remorse for not giving it his All. I think he is very entertaining to watch but just like Monfils, that's really all he is about.

Well said, and he must be cheap if they’re hiring him as a commentator, because really, who cares what he thinks? We know what he thinks of tennis from his career of tanking and not giving a feck…

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

If you listen to Nick's comments over the past year and half since he was in the SW19 final. I NEVER heard any thoughts or feelings of regrets for loosing that match to Novak. Really it was the opposite, he was just happy to be there but really zero remorse for not giving it his All. I think he is very entertaining to watch but just like Monfils, that's really all he is about.

You have never been a fan of Nick K, you post dosent surprise me in the least, quite frankly I wont be surprised if Nick dosent return to tennis, which I am sure you will be pleased.

 

[Front242]

Russian and Belarusian athletes will be allowed to compete at the 2024 Paris Olympics as "Individual Neutral Athletes'
Qualified athletes with a Russian or Belarusian passport will be entered and compete as Individual Neutral Athletes ("AINs)
No Russian or Belarusian government or state officials will be invited to or accredited for the Olympics Games Paris 2024 ( source The Tennis Letter)

Why are Israel allowed compete without any of this bs? Their country have the most bloodthirsty scum government on the planet at present. This neutral flag bs for Russia and Belarus is laughable at this stage. If they didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards...

 

[the AntiPusher]

You have never been a fan of Nick K, you post dosent surprise me in the least, quite frankly I wont be surprised if Nick dosent return to tennis, which I am sure you will be pleased.

Dear MM ..it's just my opinion about him as a competitor

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Dear MM ..it's just my opinion about him as a competitor

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, , and as I am entitled to reply to your post ,? Nick did a good job as a commentator when he was on Tennis Channel recently,, so I think he will do a good job at the AO, I am over Jim Courier, who I usually 'mute'. at the AO.

 

[kskate2]

Oh no MM. They are showing 2 games simultaneously on MNF. They enrolled Ken Doll to call the one in Miami. Just when I thought I wouldn't have to hear him until next year in Oz.



CC: @MargaretMcAleer

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Oh no MM. They are showing 2 games simultaneously on MNF. They enrolled Ken Doll to call the one in Miami. Just when I thought I wouldn't have to hear him until next year in Oz.



CC: @MargaretMcAleer

Please try to be Kind to Ken Doll, you know I have a 'soft spot for him

 

[kskate2]

Please try to be Kind to Ken Doll, you know I have a 'soft spot for him

I'm still trying to figure how he got here. There are so many people they can use to call NFL games for ESPN. Why him? He's a college basketball officienado.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I'm still trying to figure how he got here. There are so many people they can use to call NFL games for ESPN. Why him? He's a college basketball officienado.

Ken probably knows 'people in high places' other than college basketball, maybe that's how he got the gig

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Felix Auger-Alliassime has been named the 2023 Arthur Ashe Humanitarian Award recipient in recognition of his philanthropy work around the world.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Francisco Roig ( former coach of Rafa Nadal, he also coached WTA player, Sloane Stephens for awhile) is the new coach of Matteo Berrettini.