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I’m hoping Shapo can pull this out. Nothing against Meddy, but I want to see Shapo end his year on a good note and hopefully a good start to the new year.
 
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I also have to say Patrick really seems to have gotten Rune to a better place with his game. I mean if you wanted to point to an obvious case of finding the right coach matters that is the obvious one at the moment.
 

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Denis really needs to have someone who has him focus on the key moments of a match. He always seems to come apart in the final sets of his matches. He needs to slow down and think about his point construction better.
 
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Denis really needs to have someone who has him focus on the key moments of a match. He always seems to come apart in the final sets of his matches. He needs to slow down and think about his point construction better.

Medvedev was up 40-L and decided to be generous! He allowed Denis to stay in the game for a little while before closing it out 6-2 in the 3rd! :face-with-hand-over-mouth:
 

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It’s really sad that someone with a great forehand, backhand, and first serve like Denis hasn’t figured out a way to play with controlled aggression. I actually think Patrick M would be a great coach for Denis at least get him to be more consistent and cutback on the errors. Play to rally a bit more than pull the trigger.
 

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Denis really needs to have someone who has him focus on the key moments of a match. He always seems to come apart in the final sets of his matches. He needs to slow down and think about his point construction better.
I dont know why he let Delago go in the first place, he was getting consistent results when he was his coach.
 

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I was wondering if Roger would show up for the trophy presentation in Basel, but it doesn’t look like it. There was some bad blood between Roger and the tournament a few years ago, which may still be lingering, and also factor into why he didn’t retire here, as many suspected he would.
 
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Paris will be interesting with Nadal and Djokovic back in play. It certainly isn’t easy winning tournaments, but I’m sure psychologically it helps when you aren’t facing the likes of Nadal or Djokovic in a match.
 

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I was wondering if Roger would show up for the trophy presentation in Basel, but it doesn’t look like it. There was some bad blood between Roger and the tournament a few years ago, which may still be lingering, and also factor into why he didn’t retire here, as many suspected he would.

I thought Fed might buy the tournament as Djokovic pretty much owns Serbia Open and Rafa owns Paris w/ barely a downpayment! :fearful-face: :face-with-tears-of-joy: :face-with-hand-over-mouth:
 

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I was wondering if Roger would show up for the trophy presentation in Basel, but it doesn’t look like it. There was some bad blood between Roger and the tournament a few years ago, which may still be lingering, and also factor into why he didn’t retire here, as many suspected he would.
What was the bad blood about?
 

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What an October for FAA: three titles in the month. This bodes well going forward.

As for Shapo, remember when he made a name for himself beating Rafa and del Potro in Montreal in 2017, at age 18? He now hasn't won a title since 2019 and seems to be stagnating in the 10-20 range. He's kind of looking like the next Richard Gasquet to me.

Fun fact about Gasquet: He never won more than an ATP 250, winning 15 of them.
 

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I dont care how talented Rune is at age 19 his disgraceful outrage today in his match against the umpire Mo
When he learns to control his outbursts ( his tongue) I might put him on my list of youngsters to follow
 

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Here's a random question: Who will end up with more Slams, Carlos Alcaraz or Iga Swiatek?
 

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I didn't realize what a punk Rune is, but scanned Youtube and found some doozies: calling another player a "faggot," and yelling at his mother to "get out."
Yep and you should have heard him today in the final .......Disgraceful
 
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I didn't realize what a punk Rune is, but scanned Youtube and found some doozies: calling another player a "faggot," and yelling at his mother to "get out."
Can't believe you'd missed those. It's why I'm so down on him, as a human. I don't agree with Margaret that today he was "disgraceful," compared to those, but he was petulant and rude, and he didn't do himself any favors not letting it go. He comes off as an awful brat, at best.
 

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Can't believe you'd missed those. It's why I'm so down on him, as a human. I don't agree with Margaret that today he was "disgraceful," compared to those, but he was petulant and rude, and he didn't do himself any favors not letting it go. He comes off as an awful brat, at best.
Well saying the F word 3 times to the umpire. What the F are you doing? twice. F You?......"You dont even look at me, your too proud to look at me your like a King
Sorry in my book that is 'disgraceful". Mo kept his patience, Umpiring is just a 'thankless job"
I wonder if Patrick M will reel him in on his behavior seeing he is his new coach.
 
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What an October for FAA: three titles in the month. This bodes well going forward.

As for Shapo, remember when he made a name for himself beating Rafa and del Potro in Montreal in 2017, at age 18? He now hasn't won a title since 2019 and seems to be stagnating in the 10-20 range. He's kind of looking like the next Richard Gasquet to me.

Fun fact about Gasquet: He never won more than an ATP 250, winning 15 of them.
Indeed, Felix seems to be really coming good. After so many finals without a win, he scored the rare hat-trick today.

Shapo is so undisciplined, and Im beginning to wonder if he has no tennis IQ to speak of. @Sundaymorningguy was bemoaning his lack of patience, for all of his gifts. Everyone keeps waiting for him to stop with the ball-bashing and use them, but 5 years is a long time. Not that there's been NO improvement, in the attempts to construct points, etc. I'll keep hoping he can still become the player he might be. The final today was winnable for him. He and Medvedev had both been looking formidable all week, though Medvedev, at least, hadn't faced much opposition. He won that second set by taking advantage of a small drop in level from Denis, but that's the champion's way. And Daniil is a massively more intelligent player than Denis.

Gasquet is an interesting comparison...so much early promise, so little to show for it. I'd argue that Shapo has even more gifts, with his great serve, but I see what you mean about wandering around in the 10s/20s and not winning a lot of titles. Denis should read that and shudder. He will unlikely face the same competition as Gasquet, though who knows.

Gasquet is such a fascinating cautionary tale of judging early promise. I know I've said this before, and we all know that he and Rafa are born just 2 weeks apart, came up in juniors together. The French were looking at Richard as the future of French tennis. And it's not even like he hasn't had a decent, and well-remunerated career. Reached #7. But 15 titles, all 250s. At 18, he and Nadal were seen in the same light, with the same futures. It can seem like an unfair comparison, but much more was anticipated from Richie. And it's not even like he was a perpetual head-case, like Safin and Nalbandian. He just never came good. Realistically, he was overrated as a youngster.
 
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