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Novak playing lucky loser Mats Moraing (#283) in Belgrade, won the first set 6-2, and has gotten so grumpy that he was assessed a point penalty for racquet abuse. I honestly think he's doubled-down on the racquet smashing since getting DQ'd out of USO.
Did you hear that all the courts at USO this year will have Hawk Eye Electronic Line Calling.So if Novak swings a ball again towards a lines woman like he did at last year's USO he cannot get defaulted,there won't be a lines person on the courts.
 
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Best thing introduced to tennis in years. No bad calls, no disruption of play, no repeating of points, no misusing of a challenge. All fair and simple and the whole match flows better without repeated challenges.
You know I have rewatched that match when Novak was defaulted,a couple of shots back he hit a plackard at the side of the court,he should have got a warning in my mind,then he might have been more careful,, not have got defaulted in that match when a lineswoman was hit.
 

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Moxie, this isn't directed at you but your post has triggered this:

OMG, Robin Soderling is the mythical unicorn of mens ATP tennis, in how he's been raised up as THE ONE who was going to challenge for tennis domination. Who is drinking all this kool aid.? The highly overrated Robin has been praised to the rafters for the year and a half he became a top 5 player.

Let's look at the facts, yes, he upset both Rafa and Roger to reach consecutive FO finals in 2009/10 but the reality was once he got to the finals there was never a whiff that he was actually going to win it, losing rather perfunctorily to them in straight set fashion. Reached the Qtrfinals in several Majors, but lost to both Rafa and Roger at Wimbledon, USO, etc. In fact that win against Roger was the only win versus 16 losses. Yes, he beat Rafa one year in the best of all possible venues for him, the indoor HC 2009 London ATP YE champs in straight sets, but other than that , subsequently he lost to Rafa at Wimbledon and the aforementioned FO finals and then another FO QTF.. Did I mention he was blitzed in both FO finals? A power hitter in the James Blake, Thomas Berdych mold who when on could be very formidable, but not consistently. Biggest win? 1 Masters tourney in Paris Indoors. THAT IS IT.

So let's lay to rest the great heralded golden platinum champion of tennis that was Robin Soderling.

End of rant.

I feel much better.
The cult of Robin Soderling comes from one thing. He beat Rafa at RG. When Rafa was nearly 23, and considered to be the surest bet in sports to win the French Open again. Federer fans have glommed onto this defeat, because they felt, IMO, and (basically wrongly) that it proved that Rafa was beatable at RG. That has mostly proven to be a false hope. But the Fed fans have argued strenuously that it had nothing to do with Nadal's knees. Even fairly reasonable Federer fans will tell you they will never believe it had anything to do with Nadal's health. Even though he lost 2 1/2 months to injury after that. They seem to accept that weather played a role, and even bad blood. But not Nadal's knees, even though he skipped DC finals due to them in 2008, in Argentina. Even though they were always taped for months. Even though he could barely move in the Rotterdam final. And even though our friend Broken has told them, shot-by-shot, why he could see that Rafa's knees weren't right in that match, based on movement and timing, they refuse to allow that it's was anything but Soderling's stellar performance that won him that match. Even despite everything that has happened in the 12 years since that match, and that only Djokovic has beaten Nadal at RG, and in Rafa's worst year on tour. No, they have to believe that Soderling won that match with no caveats, by his brilliance, and this is how we get Soderling the "Golden Platinum Champion of Tennis," as you say. He must be magnificent, otherwise that win over Rafa might actually have had something to do with Nadal's knees.

I mentioned him in the context of del Potro as a nod maybe to @Front242 who has such a bromance with him. But in fairness, he was a Top 10 player when he got sick with mono and never played again. My point is, I think I know why he needs to be such a golden boy to some people, but, since he did retire early due to illness, so there is still the argument for the unknowns. You can't prove he was a fluke if he didn't stay around long enough to prove it, himself.
 

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You know I have rewatched that match when Novak was defaulted,a couple of shots back he hit a plackard at the side of the court,he should have got a warning in my mind,then he might have been more careful,, not have got defaulted in that match when a lineswoman was hit.
James Blake called that one out. It was a mistake that the umpire didn't cite him for it. Would have made the later call clearer, as a 2nd violation. But you can't be sure that being called out would have made him more cautious. He really doesn't seem to be caring about warnings are violations.
 

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Did you hear that all the courts at USO this year will have Hawk Eye Electronic Line Calling.So if Novak swings a ball again towards a lines woman like he did at last year's USO he cannot get defaulted,there won't be a lines person on the courts.
This is pretty good news for Novak, who doesn't seem to care about his poor behavior. He's nearly hit a lines person before, at RG, so at least this lessens his chances. Since he's clearly not going to change his behavior.
 

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James Blake called that one out. It was a mistake that the umpire didn't cite him for it. Would have made the later call clearer, as a 2nd violation. But you can't be sure that being called out would have made him more cautious. He really doesn't seem to be caring about warnings are violations.
I am not saying it would, I said he might have been more careful,just made an observation that is all.
 
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This is pretty good news for Novak, who doesn't seem to care about his poor behavior. He's nearly hit a lines person before, at RG, so at least this lessens his chances. Since he's clearly not going to change his behavior.
Novak has to be careful at this year's RG,behavior wise then.
 

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You know I have rewatched that match when Novak was defaulted,a couple of shots back he hit a plackard at the side of the court,he should have got a warning in my mind,then he might have been more careful,, not have got defaulted in that match when a lineswoman was hit.
Completely agree on above. I remember plackard hit and no warning. It seems now that he abandoned ball abuse and switched mostly to racket smashes.
 

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You know I have rewatched that match when Novak was defaulted,a couple of shots back he hit a plackard at the side of the court,he should have got a warning in my mind,then he might have been more careful,, not have got defaulted in that match when a lineswoman was hit.

Completely agree on above. I remember plackard hit and no warning. It seems now that he abandoned ball abuse and switched mostly to racket smashes.

They shouldn’t waste their time with him because he was warned many times and was a fool about it…




Everyone knows that if you smash balls or rackets very hard an accident might happen but he simply doesn’t care. He still does it today. Stop making excuses for people like him.

He was actually lucky that after years of reckless behavior the ball that ended up hitting someone wasn’t struck that hard because if even in that same USO match the previous ball that he hit more violently to the side of the court had hit someone then the person would have ended up in the hospital with a broken nose or eye damage. So he is very lucky.
 
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They shouldn’t waste their time with him because he was warned many times and was a fool about it…




Everyone knows that if you smash balls or rackets very hard an accident might happen but he simply doesn’t care. He still does it today. Stop making excuses for people like him.

He was actually lucky that after years of reckless behavior the ball that ended up hitting someone wasn’t struck that hard because if even in that same USO match the previous ball that he hit more violently to the side of the court had hit someone then the person would have ended up in the hospital with a broken nose or eye damage. So he is very lucky.

If you read my reply I was not making excuses for Novak, 'I said he might have been more careful" just an observation.
Lets move on that is old news.
 
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Best thing introduced to tennis in years. No bad calls, no disruption of play, no repeating of points, no misusing of a challenge. All fair and simple and the whole match flows better without repeated challenges.
Would that the French Open implemented it next year. Not going to happen, there is way too many vested interests in keeping things as they are.


I chuckle because the reasons giving for keeping the system are laughable:
Ysern, a former chair umpire himself, said, “It’s very, very rarely that the officials can’t find the mark.”

LOL, tell that to the familiar scene through the years of players screaming at the Chair "that's not the mark!"
 

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I did an interview for another tennis website..tennisnow at a Sydney tournament with the tournament umpire regarding why umpires do not like electronic system on clay,his reasoning was sensible to me,he also officiated overseas at clay tournaments.Quite frankly I cannot see clay using the electronic system anytime soon.,there are too many variables on clay.

I will try to find the question I posed to the tournament umpire regarding hawk eye on clay and I will post it.
 
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I have found one of the questions I posed to Mr.Bjorn Wettstein,who was Chief of Officials,at Apia International,Sydney.Mr Wettstein was Tournament Umpire and has officiated tournaments overseas.,interview was done in 2017.

Question: Do you think "Hawk-Eye" could be used for clay tournaments,or are you of the opinion that the ball leaves a mark on clay,umpires are used to checking the marks when needed?

Answer: That is probably the best of all questions.The reason we do not use "Hawk-Eye" on clay probably because of the ball mark.You could have a situation where "Hawk-Eye" is called,"Hawk-Eye" says the ball was out,you go down look at the ball mark and it is clearly in.What do you do then?,do you turn "Hawk-Eye" off?, it is tricky,like everything in life,even "Hawk-Eye" has margin of error.As our eyes do too.If we used "Hawk-Eye" on clay that would probably mean we would not be allowed to make any ball mark inspections,even though you can clearly see the ball was out.
 
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Seb Korda (20 yrs old) just won his first ATP title in Parma over Marco Cecchinato. First US man to win on European clay since Querry in 2010, they tell me on my TV.
 

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Nice. I like Korda's game. :thumbs-up:
He looked really good on the clay in this tournament. I think he didn't drop a set. He plays a Spaniard he beat in straights last year at RG in round 1 this year, then Tsitsipas will probably be the next opponent, and I don't imagine Stefanos would be especially pleased about that.
 
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