2018 Wimbledon Quarterfinals: Nadal vs. Del Potro

Who wins?

  • Nadal in 3 sets

  • Nadal in 4 sets

  • Nadal in 5 sets

  • Del Potro in 3 sets

  • Del Potro in 4 sets

  • Del Potro in 5 sets


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DarthFed

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In fairness, before play started, Rafa's looked easier, but you're right, it evened out.

I don't think it evened out, you could maybe argue DP over KA, and I mean only maybe, but Roger's was noticeably tougher each round before this. It's splitting hairs anyways, it took a pathetic choking Federer to not make the SF in that cupcake half.
 
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delshitro can't get it done against dull on grass too. What an abomination. Tennis and humanity in the hands of Novak Djokovic. Pray Fed fans, pray.
 
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I love your avatar. Is that your dog? He's adorable.

My pooches... the one in the avatar is on the left.
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delshitro can't get it done against dull on grass too. What an abomination. Tennis and humanity in the hands of Novak Djokovic. Pray Fed fans, pray.

Bro I've been praying for that puta's demise for over a decade, nothing seems to work. He is the bane of my existence.
 
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Bro I've been praying for that puta's demise for over a decade, nothing seems to work. He is the bane of my existence.
He fell off a cliff for a little while. Losing to fog at the us open was great. He also lost to Fed in an AO final, you must have enjoyed that.

For most of his career he’s won 1-2 slams per year, I really doubt he will win anything else than the French this year. He’s going back to his early years when it was only the French. The thing is that he’s so much better than anyone else on clay, he’s guaranteed that slam almost. It helps the tally.
 

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He fell off a cliff for a little while. Losing to fog at the us open was great. He also lost to Fed in an AO final, you must have enjoyed that.

For most of his career he’s won 1-2 slams per year, I really doubt he will win anything else than the French this year. He’s going back to his early years when it was only the French. The thing is that he’s so much better than anyone else on clay, he’s guaranteed that slam almost. It helps the tally.

I haven't enjoyed the sport for awhile as I do openly admit that I hate Nadal even more than I like Roger. The end is almost near for Fed and displays like today makes it tougher to take. It's a good time to forget about this sport and pretend this year never happened.
 

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He fell off a cliff for a little while. Losing to fog at the us open was great. He also lost to Fed in an AO final, you must have enjoyed that.

For most of his career he’s won 1-2 slams per year, I really doubt he will win anything else than the French this year. He’s going back to his early years when it was only the French. The thing is that he’s so much better than anyone else on clay, he’s guaranteed that slam almost. It helps the tally.
Rafa fell less "off of a cliff" than any of the rest of the big 4. He's the only one not to go out of the top 10 since he entered it, it's worth remembering. I'm sure you're hoping that he wins only the French this year, but your guy is just now showing signs of his old form, whereas Rafa is #1 and the in-form player on tour. You can massage over old Nadal losses if it makes you happy. I won't return the favor, even though they are fresher and rather more ignominious.
 

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I haven't enjoyed the sport for awhile as I do openly admit that I hate Nadal even more than I like Roger. The end is almost near for Fed and displays like today makes it tougher to take. It's a good time to forget about this sport and pretend this year never happened.
Wouldn't it be better for you just to drown your sorrows, go to bed then wake up tomorrow nursing a hangover & feel better when the hangover wears off? I know too much alcohol isn't good for you & the dangers of alcoholism but in moderation it's not bad. We all need to let our hair down & have fun sometimes. I've allowed alcohol to calm me down sometimes but normally prefer peppermint tea, poetry, music & writing to calm me down. I used to like swimming to calm me down but since I needed spectacles all the time I can't go swimming unfortunately but if I was in a life or death situation where swimming could save my life I could still do it.
 

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Rafa fell less "off of a cliff" than any of the rest of the big 4. He's the only one not to go out of the top 10 since he entered it, it's worth remembering. I'm sure you're hoping that he wins only the French this year, but your guy is just now showing signs of his old form, whereas Rafa is #1 and the in-form player on tour. You can massage over old Nadal losses if it makes you happy. I won't return the favor, even though they are fresher and rather more ignominious.
Oh you may, don’t worry. I’ve learned to accept what has been going on for two years. But I’ve seen a lot of matches by Novak and I can tell things are looking really good right now. And I’m not too impressed with Nadal tbh, even if he made his first semi since 2011. Friday will be a big test.
 

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Bro I've been praying for that puta's demise for over a decade, nothing seems to work. He is the bane of my existence.

He's the bane of every true tennis fan's existence bro. If there is any justice faker beats him tomorrow.
 

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Bro I've been praying for that puta's demise for over a decade, nothing seems to work. He is the bane of my existence.

He's the bane of every true tennis fans existence so you're not alone. If there is any justice in tennis then Djokovic will save tennis.
 

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Look, I'm sorry for the Fed fans on this forum. Today was tough. But I have had quite enough of how "humanity" needs saving from Nadal, or that Darth would prefer to see half of the countries in the world go underwater than have Rafa win this Wimbledon, or "justice." Humanity has plenty enough problems that have nothing to do with tennis. No one wants to see half of the world go underwater, I'm sure, and justice in sport is meted out in the W/L column. You people need to get a grip and some perspective. Peace.
 

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Fedal in serious trouble now. Tb wins the third set.

Nadal looks nervous. It’s just not his surface, I think we have to acknowledge that. It’s amazing he won twice here and reached another final if you think of it.

He won twice and reached 3 other finals. In his physical prime he was great at Wimbledon. Yeah, yeah, he would have close matches in the first week, but that's the nature of grass. Nobody's saying he's an all-time great grass courter or anything, but everyone focuses on the five setters he's had during his 2006-2011, as if Nole or Murray never had those.
 
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That was GSM and BS.

Look, even DP doesn't have much grass court chops, and he hasn't shown a pulse for most of 9 years now. This was always a dream scenario for Rafa. And he has a walkover in the final now, so it comes down to the semi.

A guy just played great and took Nadal to five sets in a 4 h 48 min match and you're here acting like it was a cakewalk. That guy is Del Potro too, not some chopped liver. You can talk about his career post injuries and all, but please stop with the insane narratives. DP is a tough outing when he's on, and while he's not the player he was in 2009, particularly off the backhand, he's legit.
 
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I don't think it evened out, you could maybe argue DP over KA, and I mean only maybe, but Roger's was noticeably tougher each round before this. It's splitting hairs anyways, it took a pathetic choking Federer to not make the SF in that cupcake half.

Did you seriously just say "you could argue Del Potro over Kevin Anderson, and only maybe"? Get out of here.
 
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Anyway, Darth's insanity aside, this was the best match I've seen all year.
 

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Anyway, Darth's insanity aside, this was the best match I've seen all year.
Agreed. I said it was a classic. There were breathtaking exchanges. Juan Martín refused to fold, even with all of the slipping and sliding. He won a point flat on his back. I hope he's got another Major in him. And it could be this coming USO.
 

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So the greatness of the match itself aside, this to me looked very similar to a pattern I've seen Nadal develop over the past few years, whereby he plays better as the match progresses, not because he's in good form, not because he's feeling good about his game, but because of experience, will, fighting-spirit, tactical adjustments, and playing the moment.

This is what I said before the match on page 1 of this thread: "Nadal to win this in a struggle. I think he'll "find a way" but his forehand needs to be on. It really feels like he's either not hitting it with enough intensity or the surface is just not eating up his spin at all which is really weird considering how hard and bouncy it is with the conditions, further indicating that it's the way he's hitting the ball that's the problem. I was watching old clips from Nadal on grass, including his 2011 match with DP here at Wimbledon, and the difference in forehands is pretty glaring. I can't explain it."

And this is exactly my take-away from the match (yes, I'm patting myself on the back). I think Nadal is playing decent on the whole, especially with his struggles here in recent years, but this level isn't enough to win the tournament. It really feels like all his shots, including the serve, are some 10% weaker in terms of power and zip. I don't know how to explain it, but he's generally employing the right approach, playing the right way, going for the right shots, but there seems to be something lacking.

Despite the conditions being to his liking, his forehand isn't exploding off the court, and Del Potro, who's hardly the quickest guy on tour, was able to track it down regularly, even when Nadal pulled the trigger inside out. It got to a point where it was a risk going for that shot because it gave Delpo the opportunity to fire up his running forehand up the line. Luckily for Nadal, this match-up has become heavily in his favor since Del Potro's backhand regressed so much over the years, and he was able to exploit it a lot (though Del Potro continues to be disappointing by never even attempting to go after his CC backhand. He has no confidence in that shot at all anymore, but I feel in this match-up, he's better off going for it even if it misses, just to take Nadal out of his comfort zone).

There's a reason you saw Nadal go to the net so often, use the drop shot more than ever, and utilize his slice to break rhythm...he was doing problem solving and trying to savvy his way into victory, because he didn't have full confidence in his ground game and it showed. It worked, he played a really smart match, and played the big points incredibly well in the final set. But he was getting no free points on serve and I don't see how that doesn't bite him against Novak. Plus, he'll need to be in shot-making mode against Djokovic. Playing smart won't cut it, and I just don't think Nadal has that in him right now.
 

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Very good analysis, as usual. I'm hoping that Nadal still has another gear, and that the intangibles come into play. He's hard to bet against at this stage, and with a window of opportunity open.