2018 Men's SF: Chung - Federer

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I'm not trying to be judgy, I'm just saying you never know if you'll ever be in another one of these situations. It's the sort of thing where you would think they would say fuck it, I'm going all out for this. Still...it's an interesting parallel with Novak isn't it? Remember his first slam semi where he retired. He got panned for that, but then went on and made slam semis his own
I get that point...stay in as long as you can. But I don't take the kid for a brat or a folder. If his feet were shredded, maybe he really just couldn't. Or, maybe the humiliation was just too much. We'll see what he's made of, going forward.
 

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Likewise, I guess we'll see what Cilic is made of, in the final. Surely he'll have something to make up for in the final. And have a bit of revenge in his heart. One can only hope. :good::D
 

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Likewise, I guess we'll see what Cilic is made of, in the final. Surely he'll have something to make up for in the final. And have a bit of revenge in his heart. One can only hope. :good::D

I've been worried about that motivation all along
 
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I don't get the fuss over someone not finishing a game or a set when they are injured. He was the one feeling the pain, and it could have been really bad. That does not diminish Roger's win in any way.
 

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very sad for Chung, hope he can be healthy next time
 

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That was one of the worst performance by a pro tennis player I have ever seen.. that was pure despicable by Chung..This is by far Roger’s easiest path to a title..Congrat to his fans..
 
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^Wow! That's a bit extreme. The guy was injured
No one knows what pain someone else is going through & what goes through someone else's head so I guess as no one's psychic no one will ever know. The question is, "was he really in pain & putting on a brave face, trying to work through it & doing a brilliant job of it until it got too much or did he realise he was beaten, give up the fight & use blisters as an excuse instead of saying the other player was better than him & he wasn't playing at his best?". I'll tell you my position here. I'm sitting on the fence. I like sitting on the fence because it's very comfortable. Lol.
 

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No one knows what pain someone else is going through & what goes through someone else's head so I guess as no one's psychic no one will ever know. The question is, "was he really in pain & putting on a brave face, trying to work through it & doing a brilliant job of it until it got too much or did he realise he was beaten, give up the fight & use blisters as an excuse instead of saying the other player was better than him & he wasn't playing at his best?". I'll tell you my position here. I'm sitting on the fence. I like sitting on the fence because it's very comfortable. Lol.

There are pictures showing the injury. It looks way worse than what Cilic was going through at Wimbledon last year. Worse than Novak's blister in the USO final against Stan. Look... I think he should have kept on playing. Not because I doubt the pain he was in, but because opportunities like that might never come round again. But I definitely don't believe he was making any excuses. I've had to contend with blisters playing sports before, it ain't a picnic
 
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There are pictures showing the injury. It looks way worse than what Cilic was going through at Wimbledon last year. Worse than Novak's blister in the USO final against Stan. Look... I think he should have kept on playing. Not because I doubt the pain he was in, but because opportunities like that might never come round again. But I definitely don't believe he was making any excuses. I've had to contend with blisters playing sports before, it ain't a picnic
Thank you very much for your information. In that case, I've got a lot of sympathy for him. I've had bad blisters myself & know what it's like to try to carry on as normal. I think he did well to keep a brave face & carry on as long as he did then. All credit to the guy & I hope this doesn't spoil his future chances. Do you know what you've just done? You've made me lose my seat on the fence. Lol.
 
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Nobody is thrashing this kid as he does not have experience of how to handle these situations. In general, in later stages of GSs, one tends to play. For example, Cilic played out the whole match despite blisters in last Wimby, because he knew it is considered terrible to retire in the final of GS, unless absolutely necessary.

This being SF and considering blisters is not a deadly condition, I think Chung should have at least waited until the second set is over before quitting. The only reason, he did not do so, I believe, is that being young he did not know the proper etiquette. So, I would not blame him.
Annabell Croft saying guy's movement was restricted, cause she wants to be diplomatic, audience saw what happened for real and booed the shit out of Chung......
 
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just lol, i checked all the match comments here, no one noticed that Chung had movement problem, everybody was talking about how Fed was outplaying Chung, and after the match some pretend to give credit to the blister story, just fucking lol......
 
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People can hide the pain they're in to a certain extent & everyone has a different pain threshold. I meant to say this earlier but I was trying my best to maintain a truce with a certain person to keep peace for everyone else. I was also trying not to disagree with him because he can't handle it when anyone disagrees with him but we reached stale-mate & he wouldn't agree to leave off as both sides gave their points & were getting nowhere so I'm just ignoring him.
you know people don't give a shit about your imaginary war with me.....

You could address for example why no one during the match on this board talked about Chung's movement problem (and there are many sharp-eyed people here) but ofc you don't know anything lol....
 

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He didn't have a noticeable movement problem in the first set. Actually, Roger said as much in the post-match interview - that it wasn't until the second set that something was obviously wrong.

Anyhow, Blistergate is a non-issue. Chung probably should have at least finished the game, but it really isn't a big deal that he didn't.
 
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Fed was on court barely over an hour and so he getting one day rest vs. Cilic getting 2 days rest should not play a role in the final.
I for one would not offer it as an excuse in the unlikely event Fed loses the final.

Haven't seen the match but I saw the highlights. Basically Roger got in an hour of 2 practice sets. I feel for the kid...but his day will come. I also read that his blister was a blister in a blister in a blister - subcutaneous and not really treatable and very painful. Can't really blame him for not wanting to make it worse to the point where it gets infected, too. Of course it might have hurt a whole lot less if he wasn't getting a tennis lesson from the Maestro...
 

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Fed had two poor stats in this match, even though it did not feel so during the match.

Only 43% of first serves in.

Only 36% break point conversion.

These two departments will be crucial in the final.

The first serve definitely needs to be better - 60-65%. The break point conversion? To me that's fine - especially if he protects his own serve and doesn't give Cilic a lot of looks breaks himself. Sure 50% would be better, but...it's Roger...
 

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That was one of the worst performance by a pro tennis player I have ever seen.. that was pure despicable by Chung..This is by far Roger’s easiest path to a title..Congrat to his fans..

Do you mean in terms of play? Cuz if so, then I'm guessing this means you've never seen Bernie Tomic and NIck Kyrgios play one of their I-can't-be-bothered-cuz-I'm-a-bored-millionaire matches? Or you missed Danil Medvedev throwing coins at the chair umpire because he didn't agree with a call? Or the time Kyrgios shtie-talked Stan Wawrinka's girlfriend by saying she's slept with Kokkinakis? All things considered I think Chung handled himself pretty well. Cut the kid some slack. He's human and allowed to make mistakes.
 
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He didn't have a noticeable movement problem in the first set. Actually, Roger said as much in the post-match interview - that it wasn't until the second set that something was obviously wrong.

Anyhow, Blistergate is a non-issue. Chung probably should have at least finished the game, but it really isn't a big deal that he didn't.

I watched the match on ESPN and I seem to remember the commentators commenting in the early stages of the first set that Chung didn't seem to be moving very well, that his footwork wasn't very good, and that he just wasn't playing very well in general. They attributed it to nerves/tightness and made no mention of injury (at the time)...at least that's my recollection.
 
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If Chung was leading in the match, he'd have handled the pain. He quit because he realised he had no chance of winning and Federer was running him ragged.