2017 Wimbledon Championships - Men

[Shivashish Sarkar]

This court is slow no doubt

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[Moxie]

This court is terrible no doubt. And nadal might be the favourite already.

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All this talk about the terrible courts. How can they be? They have a guy who tends them all year, and they don't even play the qualifying rounds on them. And it's Wimbledon. How "terrible" are they, really?

 

[Denis]

Guys I think we are overreacting. There are still players that do well on grass and not clay that are making progress and vice versa. Raonic, Muller, Cilic, Dimitrov, Tsonga, Zverevs, Mannerino.

Although also notable losses.

 

[DarthFed]

All this talk about the terrible courts. How can they be? They have a guy who tends them all year, and they don't even play the qualifying rounds on them. And it's Wimbledon. How "terrible" are they, really?

It's terrible because it plays nothing like the lead up tournaments, it doesn't play anything like the grass as we've come to know it. It's basically like playing Australia again except in London. This is the worst year yet, these courts had at least been fast the first week until this year.

 

[Moxie]

It's terrible because it plays nothing like the lead up tournaments, it doesn't play anything like the grass as we've come to know it. It's basically like playing Australia again except in London. This is the worst year yet, these courts had at least been fast the first week until this year.

Alright, so we're really just moaning about them being slow, again. A.P. was wondering if the terrible courts had something to do with Mattek-Sands' fall, so I thought people were saying they were terrible in terms of quality, not just your personal preference.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Rafa serving too good. But, the kid is gaining ground slowly.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Kei has not been playing well lately

I don't mind Kei losing. But, losing to RBA is a shame.

 

[Moxie]

Too bad, on Halle grass this may be close to a tossup.

Cliff Drysdale showed a slo-mo of KK's forehand wind-up and it's long and complicated. Also, he's not comfortable at net, so Cliffy says that his game is more suited to clay and always will be. So maybe that match in Halle v. Roger was a fluke.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

So Nishikori is gone. One more contender everyone can stop worrying about.

What contender? Everyone knew he was a pretender. The bookies did not even give him 1% chance.

 

[Denis]

Rafa looks very good. My hopes of an upset with Muller/Cilic are diminishing quite significantly.

 

[Denis]

Did anyone see how Nadal ran around his backhand to hit that slice? Like in his best days.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

The kid is facing Rafa for the first time. One might hear and read a lot about Rafa. But, seeing Rafa across the net and facing him directly will be altogether different experience. I would see the kid is doing fine, considering that. He is holding up in 3rd set after the learning achieved in the first two sets.

 

[DarthFed]

Rafa looks very good. My hopes of an upset with Muller/Cilic are diminishing quite significantly.

Muller has zero chance, you got to stop looking at this as "grass". Muller has been broken something like 5 times by rosol and the journeyman today. That doesn't happen on grass. Rafa will have no problem with that serve on this junk.

And I'd say Nole's chances vs Roger would be a lot better than I figured earlier based on the court.

 

[rafanoy1992]

Nadal is starting to press here a little bit. He is hitting the balls short AND he is missing routine shots. We will see if Khachanov can take the opportunity this set.

 

[Denis]

Khachenov and the linespeople waste 3 bp on nadal's serve. I bet it is curtains quickly for K now.

 

[kskate2]

If we're talking about the slowness, they didn't do anything different to the courts this year but Mac and Fleming went out yesterday and hit with 2 sets of balls. They had a can of balls from last year and one from this year. Fleming said this year's ball is definitely heavier.

In his R1 presser, Dreddy also said the balls were heavier.

 

[Front242]

Baustista Agut is two sets to love against Nishikori. A surprising scoreline. The Samurai seems out of petrol, or has an injury.

Cliff Drysdale showed a slo-mo of KK's forehand wind-up and it's long and complicated. Also, he's not comfortable at net, so Cliffy says that his game is more suited to clay and always will be. So maybe that match in Halle v. Roger was a fluke.

A fluke? He lost as he should have

 

[Denis]

If we're talking about the slowness, they didn't do anything different to the courts this year but Mac and Fleming went out yesterday and hit with 2 sets of balls. They had a can of balls from last year and one from this year. Fleming said this year's ball is definitely heavier.

In his R1 presser, Dreddy also said the balls were heavier.

Interesting. Perhaps they really wanted a blockbuster Fedal final to commemorate the first one a decade ago?

edit: I realise its actually 11 years ago.

 

[Denis]

Tiebreak now. K had a set point. He has settle a little, adjusted to Rafa's game I guess.

 

[DarthFed]

^ they might just want Rafa to win. The courts are playing significantly slower to any year I've seen. Ball used is a big part of court speed just like the surface itself.