2017 US Open Final: Nadal vs. Anderson

Who wins?

  • Nadal in three sets

  • Nadal in four sets

  • Nadal in five sets

  • Anderson in three sets

  • Anderson in four sets

  • Anderson in five sets


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DarthFed

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RG can be sped up as much as you'd like, Roger ain't winning there again.

Yes at age 36 when he is unlikely to play it again. If it was sped up for good in his mid-late twenties or earlier...Hell just look at 2011, a terrible year for Fed pretty much start to finish, but they used a different ball leading to much faster conditions and he was the only thing that prevented Nole from a calendar year slam.
 

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This. Look at Anderson's path, too. He should have had to face Sasha Zverev and Marin Cilic, but they went out. Instead, he got Querrey and PCB.

Well of course, that's why he's there. And that's why people are rightly saying the draw from 3rd round on looked a lot like an ATP 250
 

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Tournament took a big hit when neither Djokovic nor Wawrinka - last year's finalists, btw - weren't even entered. Then Murray withdrew and unbalanced the draw. Then the upsets, etc....
 

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Will Rafa start tight and nervous, then it can be a battle.

I just hope the whole friends box thing KA did at the end of the SF isn't a harbinger that mentally just making the finals is his "win".
 
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I did say in my OP that Anderson is the lowest ranked player in the finals of USO only.
Yes, I saw, but not so low-ranked compared to the lowest of other Majors, by far. Kind of interesting to wonder why.
 

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Well of course, that's why he's there. And that's why people are rightly saying the draw from 3rd round on looked a lot like an ATP 250
Apart from the bow-outs, there were a lot of players with opportunities who didn't step up. Roger was supposed to face Kyrgios, and Rafa was supposed to see Fognini and Dimitrov. While I hate to admit it, (as a New Yorker, not as a Rafa fan,) this is the least interesting men's Major I've seen in a long while. A lot of guys not seizing the moment. We don't know what the draw would have been if Murray had withdrawn a day earlier, but I have to think it affected the quality of the tournament.
 

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Will Rafa start tight and nervous, then it can be a battle.

I just hope the whole friends box thing KA did at the end of the SF isn't a harbinger that mentally just making the finals is his "win".
Robby Koenig was sitting in KA's box on Fri. Will he be sitting there again tomorrow?
 

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Just hope this turns out to be a good match and people here come back to discuss tennis properly.
 

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You can laugh about it, I would too if AO and RG were sped up immensely and suddenly played more to Roger's strengths year after year. I remember the good old days when Wimbledon and USO were both very fast and you didn't have a topspinning baseliner who returns from 20 feet behind the baseline winning these events. I still say Wimby and USO tourney director love them some Wafa for God knows what reason.

I know it's been a few decades, but I seem to remember a certain Swede who won 5 straight Wimbledons! Heaven knows Borg was out of the picture at times like Rafa dodging linesmen and ball boys! It's what makes him iconic and respected even with only 11 majors at just 2 majors; 6 FO's and 5 Wimbledons! :clap: :yesyes: :ptennis:
 
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Latest odds for the final match.

Rafa 2/15 (about 85%).

Anderson 11/2 (about 15%)
 

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I guess Rafa will be extra motivated to win for his Uncle Toni, last GS he is coaching. Bleh.

This actually would be very fitting. Toni is the greatest tennis coach of all time. I know there's a question mark about whether he would have succeeded with someone else, and the answer to that may very well be no, but it doesn't matter, because what he's been able to accomplish with Nadal, and help shaping him to become a 15 (hopefully soon-to-be-16) time GS champion is special.
 

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That's pretty generous to Uncle Toni considering he hasn't done anything of note with anyone outside Rafa. I'd have Tony Roche as #1
 
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Yes at age 36 when he is unlikely to play it again. If it was sped up for good in his mid-late twenties or earlier...Hell just look at 2011, a terrible year for Fed pretty much start to finish, but they used a different ball leading to much faster conditions and he was the only thing that prevented Nole from a calendar year slam.
At this point this is a futile observation, if not speculation, whether it be balls or courts. The players, the fans and even the bookies seem to prefer whatever the changes/authorities are over the past decade. No one, including the players seem, to care about even knowing the court conditions and balls Before tourneys begin. Can't fight market forces. Roger himself has never been particularly vocal about this. He has been in a position to make some noise about tournament ball/court decisions for a decade. On occasion, he has even mentioned how difficult it was to play in the 'very fast conditions' on a day in some place. As far as the tennis and the fan world is concerned, this discussion is among the lunatic, if not deluded, fringe. We have to accept what's beyond our control and move on. Is there anyone who measures these things? Because we can at least analyze data to see how court/balls/bounce influence ATP GS results. That would put an end to this speculation.

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If Anderson does not win the first set, this will be a straight set beat down