2016 Roland Garros Final: Djokovic vs. Murray

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You can skip it. Overall a dismal effort from Murray. I think Novak would have gotten more competition by playing a wall.
 

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Congrats to Nole & his fans,sad thing is iv'e not seen it yet.

I know you are an Andy fan. I would recommend that you not watch it. :angel:
 

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Congrats Novak. Woke up at the beginning of the second set so missed when Andy played his best set. Maybe there will be a rerun later today. Looking forward to the Wimbledon Preview Talk thread. :)

Edit: I wonder, have the same two players ever met in all four finals of the same same calendar year?
 

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The greatest challenge will come from Stanimal realizing he has to wake up and put in his one brilliant performance a year at either Wimbledon or the US Open to claim his own career slam year by slow year.
 

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Djoker hit 16.950 points. Just 50 more... so Olympics.

Anyone get more than 17 k ?
 

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Mile said:
Djoker hit 16.950 points. Just 50 more... so Olympics.

Anyone get more than 17 k ?

Nah, imagine that's the highest now. The points system doubled in the last decade or so but no one has reached this amount amount I believe.
 

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AnonymousFan said:
Congrats Novak. Woke up at the beginning of the second set so missed when Andy played his best set. Maybe there will be a rerun later today. Looking forward to the Wimbledon Preview Talk thread. :)

Edit: I wonder, have the same two players ever met in all four finals of the same same calendar year?

The replay is on now; TCC started at 2 pm EST! Enjoy! :angel: :dodgy: :popcorn
 

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Mile said:
Djoker hit 16.950 points. Just 50 more... so Olympics.

Anyone get more than 17 k ?
No, Novak reaching 16000 points at some point in the fall last year already was a record. Federer's best 12 month period after the Masters Cup 2006 converted to the current point system would have been 15745.

For the Olympics and Davis Cup no points will be awarded, so for the rest of the year he can only gain points by winning the Canadian Open, Cincinnati, the World Tour Finals with three wins in the group matches or by adding a 250 or 500 he didn't play last year. With the Canadian Open and Cincinnati so close to the Olympics I doubt he will improve this record.

With the ATP not awarding points for the ITF competitions apart from the majors this year he probably lost his chance to score 17000 points by going out in the quarter finals of Dubai and the 2nd round of Monte Carlo.
 

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Sundaymorningguy said:
The greatest challenge will come from Stanimal realizing he has to wake up and put in his one brilliant performance a year at either Wimbledon or the US Open to claim his own career slam year by slow year.

Stanimal is getting run ragged by a blonde 20 year old piece of fluff.... and not on the tennis court.
 

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-FG- said:
Mile said:
Djoker hit 16.950 points. Just 50 more... so Olympics.

Anyone get more than 17 k ?
No, Novak reaching 16000 points at some point in the fall last year already was a record. Federer's best 12 month period after the Masters Cup 2006 converted to the current point system would have been 15745.

For the Olympics and Davis Cup no points will be awarded, so for the rest of the year he can only gain points by winning the Canadian Open, Cincinnati, the World Tour Finals with three wins in the group matches or by adding a 250 or 500 he didn't play last year. With the Canadian Open and Cincinnati so close to the Olympics I doubt he will improve this record.

With the ATP not awarding points for the ITF competitions apart from the majors this year he probably lost his chance to score 17000 points by going out in the quarter finals of Dubai and the 2nd round of Monte Carlo.

OMG, who really cares about this point situation? We're seeing history and no one down the line is going to give one jot to an ATP's points lead years down the line! Nole's already added to and closing in on most records in the book! Who said no points will be awarded for Olympics and DC? Not like I care, but why the change this season or are you aware there is a system in place? :puzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy: :cover
 

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I wonder if Djoker is going to skip warm ups and just go straight into Wimbledon. I think it worked well for him last year, and he can come down from his RG high to come in calm and focused on Wimbledon '16.
 

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Sundaymorningguy said:
I wonder if Djoker is going to skip warm ups and just go straight into Wimbledon. I think it worked well for him last year, and he can come down from his RG high to come in calm and focused on Wimbledon '16.

Borg didn't play Queens way back when and he won 5 straight with 6 finals! Why change the routine now? :angel: :dodgy:
 

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Fiero425 said:
Sundaymorningguy said:
I wonder if Djoker is going to skip warm ups and just go straight into Wimbledon. I think it worked well for him last year, and he can come down from his RG high to come in calm and focused on Wimbledon '16.

Borg didn't play Queens way back when and he won 5 straight with 6 finals! Why change the routine now? :angel: :dodgy:

I actually think this year would be a good idea to play a warm up before Wimby. For the exact reason above...to come down from RG after a win this time around. Getting into the groove of things as opposed to sitting on your bum and basking in your glory. It was different when he lost RGs. After a win, he has to realize maybe even more that life goes on and there is a lot of tennis around the corner. IMHO.
 

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Front242 said:
Mile said:
Djoker hit 16.950 points. Just 50 more... so Olympics.

Anyone get more than 17 k ?

Nah, imagine that's the highest now. The points system doubled in the last decade or so but no one has reached this amount amount I believe.

19,000 is the maximum possible ranking points. Novak has 89.2% of maximum possible. This low percentage :) is because he does not play the maximum allowed number of events.
 

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1972Murat said:
Fiero425 said:
Sundaymorningguy said:
I wonder if Djoker is going to skip warm ups and just go straight into Wimbledon. I think it worked well for him last year, and he can come down from his RG high to come in calm and focused on Wimbledon '16.

Borg didn't play Queens way back when and he won 5 straight with 6 finals! Why change the routine now? :angel: :dodgy:

I actually think this year would be a good idea to play a warm up before Wimby. For the exact reason above...to come down from RG after a win this time around. Getting into the groove of things as opposed to sitting on your bum and basking in your glory. It was different when he lost RGs. After a win, he has to realize maybe even more that life goes on and there is a lot of tennis around the corner. IMHO.

It is not just last year. Novak has not played grass warm ups for the last several years. It would be foolish to alter a schedule that is working well for him. :nono
 

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Sundaymorningguy said:
I wonder if Djoker is going to skip warm ups and just go straight into Wimbledon. I think it worked well for him last year, and he can come down from his RG high to come in calm and focused on Wimbledon '16.
He hasn't played one since 2010 and isn't in the entry list of Halle or Queens this year either, altough it might not be out of the question that he asks for a WC in one of those two (probably if he does he would rather play in Halle as the tournament director expressed great interest in Novak playing there after their contract with Nadal ended in 2014).

But considering his success at Wimbledon from 2011 on I expect him to keep his recent routine of just play one or two matches in an exhibition event in the week before Wimbledon.

Fiero425 said:
-FG- said:
Mile said:
Djoker hit 16.950 points. Just 50 more... so Olympics.

Anyone get more than 17 k ?
No, Novak reaching 16000 points at some point in the fall last year already was a record. Federer's best 12 month period after the Masters Cup 2006 converted to the current point system would have been 15745.

For the Olympics and Davis Cup no points will be awarded, so for the rest of the year he can only gain points by winning the Canadian Open, Cincinnati, the World Tour Finals with three wins in the group matches or by adding a 250 or 500 he didn't play last year. With the Canadian Open and Cincinnati so close to the Olympics I doubt he will improve this record.

With the ATP not awarding points for the ITF competitions apart from the majors this year he probably lost his chance to score 17000 points by going out in the quarter finals of Dubai and the 2nd round of Monte Carlo.

OMG, who really cares about this point situation? We're seeing history and no one down the line is going to give one jot to an ATP's points lead years down the line! Nole's already added to and closing in on most records in the book! Who said no points will be awarded for Olympics and DC? Not like I care, but why the change this season or are you aware there is a system in place? :puzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy: :cover
I read a statement that there is bad blood between the ATP and the ITF because the ITF doesn't want to share the revenue generated at the Olympics, so the ATP decided not to award ranking points, to at least not weaken the ATP events taking place in the same week as or shortly before the Olympics even more.
 

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Not everyone can play the Olympics or would want to with the conditions of that toilet in RIO, but I can commiserate with the animus those 2 entities have for one another! Back in 2013, Nole had an AO and was in the final of the other 3 majors, but made #1 over ATP's awarding the YE #1 ranking to Rafa who owned 2 majors! They've been at odds forever which is why one runs the MAJORS while the other manages the rest of the tour! :nono :angel: :dodgy: